The Patriots have a Pervert Problem...

[NWPATSFAN]

According to the affidavit, Kraft paid cash at the front desk and then went to another room, where he took off his clothes. He was accompanied by Wang and Mingbi, who allegedly massaged him lying face-down before turning him over and performing a sex act by hand.

Seems pretty straightforward to me...and on video. NW needs audio to know what actually happened though...haha

No the prosecutor needs audio.
Otherwise it's two consulting adults. The tip was for the massage.
Go back to your RKK is a trafficker angle.

Keep moving the goal posts clown.
First RKK was a trafficker.
Then he was abusing women being held against their will.
Then he should've known there was trafficking going on.

Dude give it a rest.
A 77 y/o man likely went and got a hand job. Not from someone being forced to do it. Is it illegal, sure if it was solicitation? A misdemeanor. Who cares. We all pay for sex one way or another.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

My bad your quote #61 not sure what happened on my copy and paste?
"Read your first line you tool holier than now? Human trafficking is a very bad issue but in a patsies world it's no biggie...you are a sick person."

Do we not agree that there is a good chance that human trafficking was occurring in this venue? Your owner visited this venue multiple times perhaps more than what the police has found. Either way did he not help make this venue profitable? Did he not partake in illegal activities either way? Enough questions you are too stupid to understand...too much patsies koolaid.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I have to believe what the police are telling us. If they are wrong then so be it but I'm not going to believe koolaid drinking patsies that this never happened....

No you're reading into what you were hoping the cops were saying or would say. Not what they said.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Your wife should be appauled at your lack of reading comp. Or how you like to try and unjustly accuse someone of a felony when it was pointed out to you time and time again he was getting busted on a misdemeanor. Or how your bias totally blinded you in this case.
HYPOCRITE

Look you tool he may still get prosecuted as the employee was apparently filmed doing sex acts on him and could be singing as we speak. The only hypocrite is you because if the rolls were reversed and this was Ross you would be going for his neck and you know it. Meanwhile I'd be calling for Ross to sell the team...

 

[FlyerFinFan]

It could - and I hope it does not happen. I would like to know the truth.....

He's a billionaire already asked for a non-jury trial...what does common sense think about this?

 

[FlyerFinFan]

No the prosecutor needs audio.
Otherwise it's two consulting adults. The tip was for the massage.
Go back to your RKK is a trafficker angle.

Keep moving the goal posts clown.
First RKK was a trafficker.
Then he was abusing women being held against their will.
Then he should've known there was trafficking going on.

Dude give it a rest.
A 77 y/o man likely went and got a hand job. Not from someone being forced to do it. Is it illegal, sure if it was solicitation? A misdemeanor. Who cares. We all pay for sex one way or another.

Never said he was a trafficker you idiot I said that he most likely knew exactly what was going on unless you are patsies lala land which you are.

We also don't know if Mingbi wasn't forced she was an employee yes employee if she sings then watch out. We will find out unless he buys them all off. Either way video shows the act to deny that is idiotic. Did you believe that ray rice was whispering sweet nothings to his wife in the elevator? Did you need audio to know what was happening....obviously you need life spelled out for you einstein.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

No you're reading into what you were hoping the cops were saying or would say. Not what they said.

Nope reading this your worse than the blind mice need audio too:
According to the affidavit, Kraft paid cash at the front desk and then went to another room, where he took off his clothes. He was accompanied by Wang and Mingbi, who allegedly massaged him lying face-down before turning him over and performing a sex act by hand.

 

[Southieinnc]

He's a billionaire already asked for a non-jury trial...what does common sense think about this?

If I was in his shoes, I would ask for my right as an American to a trial by judge. It is common sense when you have a high profile case. Prevents a lot of grand-standing by the DA

Picture a jury full of Miami fans:

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Do we not agree that there is a good chance that human trafficking was occurring in this venue? Your owner visited this venue multiple times perhaps more than what the police has found. Either way did he not help make this venue profitable? Did he not partake in illegal activities either way? Enough questions you are too stupid to understand...too much patsies koolaid.

Deflect much?

~FFF~ I never said he was a trafficker. Damn those three posts of mine.

Keep grasping and back peddaling you'll find something tangible to hold onto someday.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

If I was in his shoes, I would ask for my right as an American to a trial by judge. It is common sense when you have a high profile case. Prevents a lot of grand-standing by the DA

Picture a jury full of Miami fans:

Either way damage is already done just depends what the league and his peers think. I already know what they think you guys are just putting your head in the sand at this point. We'll see how it plays out...

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Deflect much?

~FFF~ I never said he was a trafficker. Damn those three posts of mine.

Keep grasping and back peddaling you'll find something tangible to hold onto someday.

I never did you can't read I said that human trafficking was operating in that venue according to authorities and he visited that venue. Never said that he ran the place you moron. I do believe that he knew what was going on one of his rich buddies probably told him to go otherwise how on earth does a billionaire end up in a strip mall. If he wanted a massage that badly why not at his condo? Seriously you idiot.

 

[Manster7588]

I've said that he sure hasn't helped the cause against human trafficking by visiting a place that forces it. Either way he put money into the hands that do...get a brain.

Is every prostitute forced into the trade? I ask because I really don't know the answer.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Look you tool he may still get prosecuted as the employee was apparently filmed doing sex acts on him and could be singing as we speak. The only hypocrite is you because if the rolls were reversed and this was Ross you would be going for his neck and you know it. Meanwhile I'd be calling for Ross to sell the team...

Again a misdemeanor.
Oh and your full of shit about Ross.
We've already had discussions about your boy Richie Incognito who to you it was just bullying no big deal. Did you read this detective? I'm appauled do you know how many people commit suicide because of bullying?

https://deadspin.com/the-worst-stuff-from-the-dolphins-investigation-updati-1522846626

Apparently you only hear and read what you want.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Never said he was a trafficker you idiot I said that he most likely knew exactly what was going on unless you are patsies lala land which you are.

We also don't know if Mingbi wasn't forced she was an employee yes employee if she sings then watch out. We will find out unless he buys them all off. Either way video shows the act to deny that is idiotic. Did you believe that ray rice was whispering sweet nothings to his wife in the elevator? Did you need audio to know what was happening....obviously you need life spelled out for you einstein.

Stop just stop.
I just showed three of your quotes where you imply he was trafficking. Are you really that dumb? You don't need to answer.

Again Sherlock even if she was being forced RKK is a patron. He's being charged with solicitation not trafficking.

Wow you're on full tilt now.

 

[Manster7588]

I never did you can't read I said that human trafficking was operating in that venue according to authorities and he visited that venue. Never said that he ran the place you moron. I do believe that he knew what was going on one of his rich buddies probably told him to go otherwise how on earth does a billionaire end up in a strip mall. If he wanted a massage that badly why not at his condo? Seriously you idiot.

You have stated numerous times he supported human trafficking, problem is we don't know if he knew if any girl was there against her will. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

I'll stand by my belief Kraft is guilty of solicitation. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now let it play out in the legal system to see if it agrees with me.

 

[Manster7588]

If I get caught handing money to a chick, that's prostitution? The affidavit said that the tape shows the licensed masseuse got close to his genitals. Doesn't sound like a slam dunk to me.

The money paid was paid at the front desk. Means nothing unless you prove that it was for sex.

I'm going to wait this one out. If he turns out guilty, I'll lose a lot of respect for him. If he is found not guilty, I'll look at his past and keep my prior view of him.

If he's guilty or not it won't change how I feel. I see this as an old guy wanting to get off.

Fully agree we need to let it play out before we lock him up for human trafficking.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Is every prostitute forced into the trade? I ask because I really don't know the answer.

You should read the USA Today article it's pretty good. Some have their reasons could be drugs low self esteem but their finding out that a high percentage are being forced one way or another. A guy like kraft isn't stupid although maybe he is....but he should still know better. First of all he knows its illegal in Florida and secondly there are signs at this joint that somethings not right. Its not like he doesn't have advisors drivers etc...that are in the know. He obviously went there for a reason and like I said why not order a massage direct to his condo?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Nope reading this your worse than the blind mice need audio too:
According to the affidavit, Kraft paid cash at the front desk and then went to another room, where he took off his clothes. He was accompanied by Wang and Mingbi, who allegedly massaged him lying face-down before turning him over and performing a sex act by hand.

Again Sherlock no audio no way to collaberate the tip was for sex. Good friends having mutual consenting sex. It's why during stings they wear a wire.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Again a misdemeanor.
Oh and your full of shit about Ross.
We've already had discussions about your boy Richie Incognito who to you it was just bullying no big deal. Did you read this detective? I'm appauled do you know how many people commit suicide because of bullying?

https://deadspin.com/the-worst-stuff-from-the-dolphins-investigation-updati-1522846626

Apparently you only hear and read what you want.

300 lb bullies F off with that deflection. Ross even overreacted and turfed an all pro before he was charged meanwhile your owner gave a serial killer a bonus. either way fire ross if you believe that 300 lb men can bully one another you are such a moron.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I never did you can't read I said that human trafficking was operating in that venue according to authorities and he visited that venue. Never said that he ran the place you moron. I do believe that he knew what was going on one of his rich buddies probably told him to go otherwise how on earth does a billionaire end up in a strip mall. If he wanted a massage that badly why not at his condo? Seriously you idiot.

Keep grasping.
We all know what you said and implied just on the first four pages alone.