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Eli Manning, the HOF, and my long standing Jim Plunkett comparisom

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Yes, I watched a QB who got hit once all day and fumbled away a title on that hit
ok, but he had a 115 rating, threw for over 500 yards, and had 3 TD's to no picks. comp% sucked.
 

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Stats and Rings is what HOF QBs are measured by

I personally don't care if he's in or not, he has earned his lifetime pass in this city

But there is gonna be a lotta dissapointment out there when he gets in

I really could care less if he does or does not get in. My opinion is based on the standard I see with the current QB's that are in the HOF and he does not measure up to any of them. I personally like Eli. Just don't think he belongs in the HOF. I think he will eventually get in but once he does the standard changes because then QB's like Flacco will start getting in.
 

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I really could care less if he does or does not get in. My opinion is based on the standard I see with the current QB's that are in the HOF and he does not measure up to any of them. I personally like Eli. Just don't think he belongs in the HOF. I think he will eventually get in but once he does the standard changes because then QB's like Flacco will start getting in.


This season can turn me into a real Eli hater, never had this much talent around him, and the Oline is finally NFL caliber
 

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^ This is what an idiot looks like. ^

Lol. You just posted that Tebow saved the Broncos franchise or some silly shit, but he's an idiot for calling you out on that foolishness ? wow
 

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Lol. You just posted that Tebow saved the Broncos franchise or some silly shit, but he's an idiot for calling you out on that foolishness ? wow

The 2010-2011 Broncos were the worst team in the NFL and Tim Tebow led them to the playoffs. Yes, he took a team that was dead in the water and brought them into the lime-light. That doesn't mean I'm going to argue that he's a HOF QB. That would be insane.

Just as arguing Eli Manning should be a HOF QB. They're both mediocre QBs that happened to lead their teams to greater heights than other QBs who happen to be statistically better have.
 

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The 2010-2011 Broncos were the worst team in the NFL and Tim Tebow led them to the playoffs. Yes, he took a team that was dead in the water and brought them into the lime-light. That doesn't mean I'm going to argue that he's a HOF QB. That would be insane.

Just as arguing Eli Manning should be a HOF QB. They're both mediocre QBs that happened to lead their teams to greater heights than other QBs who happen to be statistically better have.


Yeah there isn't a knowledgeable fan in the universe that puts Eli and Tebow in the same category
 

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Yeah there isn't a knowledgeable fan in the universe that puts Eli and Tebow in the same category

Statistically, they're fairly similar. Tebow doesn't come close to any QB statistically. Except Eli. Because they're both mediocre.
 

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Statistically, they're fairly similar. Tebow doesn't come close to any QB statistically. Except Eli. Because they're both mediocre.


Just know you're suggesting someone is an idiot for saying Eli could be in the HOF

When in actuality, he may be in the HOF

Good call
 

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Statistically, they're fairly similar. Tebow doesn't come close to any QB statistically. Except Eli. Because they're both mediocre.

Eli is not a mediocre QB imo. He is a good QB and at times was really good but just not consistent enough to be considered elite.

Tebow calling him a mediocre QB would be an insult to mediocre QB. He was worse than that.
 

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Eli is not a mediocre QB imo. He is a good QB and at times was really good but just not consistent enough to be considered elite.

Tebow calling him a mediocre QB would be an insult to mediocre QB. He was worse than that.

Yet he won. Huh.
 

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Eli is not a mediocre QB imo. He is a good QB and at times was really good but just not consistent enough to be considered elite.

Tebow calling him a mediocre QB would be an insult to mediocre QB. He was worse than that.


Yeah I'll go with the hundreds of NFL scouts, coaches and executives that felt Tebow didn't belong in the league for longer than those 15 minutes
 

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I think E. Manning is overrated, but lets get serious for a minute.

Tim Tebow?
 

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Tebow won 57% of his starts.

Eli has won 52%.

Tim Tebow has won 8 games, Eli has won 111.

Eli is still in the NFL while Tebow has not been able to find an NFL job since 2011. Tebow was so bad as a QB that when he was on the Jets they converted him to a FB.
 

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Tim Tebow has won 8 games, Eli has won 111.

Eli is still in the NFL while Tebow has not been able to find an NFL job since 2011. Tebow was so bad as a QB that when he was on the Jets they converted him to a FB.

And Eli is, statistically speaking, barely better than him. Thank you for helping make my point.
 

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And Eli is, statistically speaking, barely better than him. Thank you for helping make my point.

That is funny......it really is. This is probably one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard any one make. A career analysis using the stats of a QB that was bad he only played 14 games?
 

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I think E. Manning is overrated, but lets get serious for a minute.

Tim Tebow?

Here are some #'s Tebow fans will never talk about. In 2011 he played in 14 games (starting 11). He had 14 fumbles, 6 int's & only completed 46.5% of his passes. In 2 playoff games that year he was 19-47 (40.4%).
 

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He has 2 rings and was good in 07 playoffs and sensational in 2011

He can suck all he wants in other playoff games, every fan in this forum would sign up for 2 rings from their QB, and it's why I suck his cock!

Sounds about right
 
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