i still can't believe he's betting against his so-called "favorite player and G.O.A.T"...
so much for loyalty...
And he said he was going to be a Laker fan now because.....
LeBroin James.
#Gladhesnot
i still can't believe he's betting against his so-called "favorite player and G.O.A.T"...
so much for loyalty...
I agree and I HOPE the Cavs clean house and tank----- but they have guys that have won games before. If there is an actual system in place rather than "just play off LeBron" - they might be a little bit better than we would expect.I think your top 8 looks pretty clear cut to me. The Hornets may go in tank mode and I expect the Knicks to be pretty bad with Porzingas missing most of the year.
Cavs could easily be battling the Bulls and Nets for the 9 or 10 spot, but make no mistake, those are not good basketball teams. 37 wins is probably the ceiling.
And he said he was going to be a Laker fan now because.....
LeBroin James.
#Gladhesnot
I agree and I HOPE the Cavs clean house and tank----- but they have guys that have won games before. If there is an actual system in place rather than "just play off LeBron" - they might be a little bit better than we would expect.
They definitely dont have a #1......but they have a #2 in Love, and a bunch of decent role players---- Hood, Nance Jr., Hill, Thompson, Osman, Sexton, Korver are all useful NBA players and a lot of experience.
you really think a lineup of say:
PG- Sexton
SG- Clarkson
SF- Hood
Pf- Love
C- Nance Jr.
is really that much worse than what a lot of bottom teams in the East are throwing out?
like i said- i know the Cavs are going to be bad ---- but I dont think they are going to be horrible, and i WANT them to be horrible. They have too many guys that know how to play the game and have been around nad have some talent to be just terrible.
honest to God though...i look at hte Lakers roster and wonder why LeBron did not spend just 1 more year in Cleveland. They def. could have gotten Kemba if they wanted to make a deal
even if he just came back for 1 year --- Kemba, Love, Hood, Clarkson, Nance Jr., Korver, TT, etc. is just so much better than Ingram, Ball, Rondo, Stephenson, Kuzma, KCP, McGee, Zubac etc.
I agree and I HOPE the Cavs clean house and tank----- but they have guys that have won games before. If there is an actual system in place rather than "just play off LeBron" - they might be a little bit better than we would expect.
They definitely dont have a #1......but they have a #2 in Love, and a bunch of decent role players---- Hood, Nance Jr., Hill, Thompson, Osman, Sexton, Korver are all useful NBA players and a lot of experience.
you really think a lineup of say:
PG- Sexton
SG- Clarkson
SF- Hood
Pf- Love
C- Nance Jr.
is really that much worse than what a lot of bottom teams in the East are throwing out?
like i said- i know the Cavs are going to be bad ---- but I dont think they are going to be horrible, and i WANT them to be horrible. They have too many guys that know how to play the game and have been around nad have some talent to be just terrible.
honest to God though...i look at hte Lakers roster and wonder why LeBron did not spend just 1 more year in Cleveland. They def. could have gotten Kemba if they wanted to make a deal
even if he just came back for 1 year --- Kemba, Love, Hood, Clarkson, Nance Jr., Korver, TT, etc. is just so much better than Ingram, Ball, Rondo, Stephenson, Kuzma, KCP, McGee, Zubac etc.
they easily could ahve gotten him at the trade deadline- they just didnt want to take Batum back. if they would take back batum they could ahve gotten him. Sexton, Hill, Clarkson for Kemba and Batum is absolutely a deal they could have made. The hornets may just let Kemba walk, he is a FA. If LeBron came back Kemba would RIGHT NOW be a Cav.No guarantee they were getting Walker....
I think that is an underated part of this.No. It is better than the bottom teams. And almost all of the league's worst rosters are in the East. That is why I am projecting them somewhere between 9 and 11 in the East as is.
I think you hit the nail on the head a couple days ago with respect to LeBron's decision. Either choice wasn't giving him a legit chance at a ring this year. At least in LA he avoids the potential embarrassment of losing to Kyrie's team.
I know they won 40 games. They had a lot more talent than Cleveland and it isn't close.
Kevin Martin was a legit 20 per game scorer. Pekovic, while his career was cut short had an awesome season that year averaging something like 17.5 and 10. They also had some really good role players like Corey Brewer, JJ Barea and Ricky Rubio.
Literally not even close in terms of talent between these 2 groups.
And i never said Kyrie was a scrub. I said he was overrated. Big difference.
I think that is an underated part of this.
LeBron sees Kyrie debuting a movie..."Uncle Drew".......he knows neither the Celtics, or the Cavs, even if they got Kemba, were likely to win a title.
Even with a team of Lebron, Kemba nad Love- there is no guarantee the Cavs would beat the Celtics with Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, Tatum, Rozier, Brown, etc.......
I think the Cavs WOULD win that series if they had Kemba, but i also think that its pretty much a coin flip.
Instead of taking the chance of losing to the Celtics and being humiliated losing to Kyrie, he instead goes to LA, his movie, Space Jam, will be 10x bigger than Uncle Drew-- he will set himself up later in his career too.
I also think this is udnerated---- he has those movie/production aspirations. BEFORE going to LA- a ton of LA people did not like LeBron. There are a TON of people in LA loyal to Kobe that hated LeBron before he decided to go there.
Now, instead of LeBron being hated by LA post career if he wants to live there, they will love him (assuming he at least delivers 1 championship, which if yo uask me is far from guaranteed).
Lets look at some facts here
Kyrie, Love, Smith, TT where all starters on a team that beat a 73 win GS in the finals...Somebody had to play defense and score the other 75 points per game...
They still have Love, Smith, TT and added a lottery pick. Plus Boston gave them 2 young players, plus Hill and hood with clarkson and nance....If they pick up a vet or 2 they are a top 6 team in the east...easily
Now last year lebron had to play nearly every minute just to get the cavs towards the playoffs in the EAST. He is surrounded by who now? Rondo? Stevenson? Ball? Not one player even as good as Love, let alone Irving. Lebron is now on a worse team in a harder conference...I honestly don't see them making the playoffs...sorry but those are the facts kiddo
isnt it surprising to you that LeBron would throw away one of the last great years of his career? Its what i still cant get over.I think everyone agrees that him going to L.A. wasn’t a decision made based on putting winning first.
Just adding James makes better than Minny, Portland, and Utah.
They are a 5-6 seed IMO.
Do you truly believe that?
isnt it surprising to you that LeBron would throw away one of the last great years of his career? Its what i still cant get over.
he has been to 8 straight finals and thats gone. he legitimately might not even make the 2nd roudn this year.
That just surprises the shit out of me. It really really does.
I don't get the Rondo move.
Hopefully for the Lakers, Magic and Pelinka learn from their mistakes and build a completely different support group next year. I love the core, especially if you add Kawhi.
isnt it surprising to you that LeBron would throw away one of the last great years of his career? Its what i still cant get over.
he has been to 8 straight finals and thats gone. he legitimately might not even make the 2nd roudn this year.
That just surprises the shit out of me. It really really does.
maybe.....i could see them being better or worse record wise than any of those teams. Remember, in both Miami and Cleveland it took time for the teams to gel, and that was with Love/Irving and Bosh/Wade.Just adding James makes better than Minny, Portland, and Utah.
They are a 5-6 seed IMO.
I do. Rondo played really well last year and is credited with helping Jrue Holidays improvement. The Lakers are likely hoping he can do the same with Lonzo. Plus, since we're still in the off-season, he's insurance if Lonzo ends up being part of a trade.
His 3 point shooting isn't exactly terrible anymore either.
Over the past 3 seasons he's shot .365, .372 and .333.
Not great, but it's good enough that he can't be left alone.
Don't really see where the mistakes are. These moves are about completing a trade for Kawhi this year or, more likely, signing him or another max guy next year. I think that's why the Lakers are being patient, not improving their offer and waiting the Spurs out.
you gotta look at more than just pure percentage when looking at a guy's 3 pt percentage. Rondo made less than 1 three a game last year. For all intents and purposes he is not a 3 pointer. He made 0.9 out of 2.1 attempts per game. As three point shooting goes in todays league that is pretty much irrelevant.I do. Rondo played really well last year and is credited with helping Jrue Holidays improvement. The Lakers are likely hoping he can do the same with Lonzo. Plus, since we're still in the off-season, he's insurance if Lonzo ends up being part of a trade.
His 3 point shooting isn't exactly terrible anymore either.
Over the past 3 seasons he's shot .365, .372 and .333.
Not great, but it's good enough that he can't be left alone.
Don't really see where the mistakes are. These moves are about completing a trade for Kawhi this year or, more likely, signing him or another max guy next year. I think that's why the Lakers are being patient, not improving their offer and waiting the Spurs out.
thats 19 attempts. lol....he made 0.8 three's per game in the postseason. He was left wide open on them because hes not a three point shooter. thats a shot teams want him to take.He made 42% in the postseason.