Who goes where when the PAC dissolves?

[GoldRusher]

Meet the walk-on who is Stanford's only quarterback in spring practice

Older piece but makes sense, UCLA has that A&M feel to em... I say they crack the seal, a few more follow and then..... UNLV/BYU/Boise/Colorado State take their spots in the PAC.

 

[outofyourmind]

Largely true, but not nearly that much of a slam dunk.

The shortcomings of the network and other promised budget increases isn't a small issue. And one that if it keeps getting worse WILL have fallouts for several schools.

WSU is projected to be in a $67 million dollar deficit currently in their athletics. And they are a public school. The state legislature has cracked down on all of its public schools athletics budgets. Their prior AD Moos really fucked them hard and no one really knows what their plan is to get out of that huge hole. I mean they are STILL looking at adding more facilities they say will be through private funding while at the same time being that far in the hole.

UW is on better footing and so are the other higher schools of the conference, but several are barely hanging on and have no real plan to pull themselves up if something doesn't happen before the end of the current deals. The OP wasn't wrong that there are cracks and there could be some kind of fallout, even if some real breakup of the entire conference isn't ever going to happen.

Washington State athletic department projects $67 million hole, will discuss plans to reduce debt at Board of Regents meeting

So you're saying Arizona and Arizona State to the Big 12.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Current 9 game conference schedule.

PAC-16

PAC West
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon St.
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC

PAC East
Arizona
Arizona St.
Utah
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Texas Tech
Texas

YOU SIR ARE FORWARD THINKER…+1

 

[Innermind]

Ya, but in the Pac12 we have airplanes to travel, in WV they are still using mules

Nice try but Pullman is just as backwoods as Morgantown.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Meet the walk-on who is Stanford's only quarterback in spring practice

Older piece but makes sense, UCLA has that A&M feel to em... I say they crack the seal, a few more follow and then..... UNLV/BYU/Boise/Colorado State take their spots in the PAC.

 

[Olyduck]

Meet the walk-on who is Stanford's only quarterback in spring practice

Older piece but makes sense, UCLA has that A&M feel to em... I say they crack the seal, a few more follow and then..... UNLV/BYU/Boise/Colorado State take their spots in the PAC.

in the world of What IF I feel like Fresno, San Diego State, Wyoming, Air Force, Nevada, would all get an invite before UNLV

 

[GoldRusher]

Peterson be headin back home when Boise gets them P5 dollars

 

[Chewbaccer]

That was hilarious.

It was NASCAR's third tier series that is composed of nothing but teenagers and failed, over the hill Cup drivers that not even diehard NASCAR fans give a rats ass about makes it even more funny.

 

[wazzu31]

Largely true, but not nearly that much of a slam dunk.

The shortcomings of the network and other promised budget increases isn't a small issue. And one that if it keeps getting worse WILL have fallouts for several schools.

WSU is projected to be in a $67 million dollar deficit currently in their athletics. And they are a public school. The state legislature has cracked down on all of its public schools athletics budgets. Their prior AD Moos really fucked them hard and no one really knows what their plan is to get out of that huge hole. I mean they are STILL looking at adding more facilities they say will be through private funding while at the same time being that far in the hole.

UW is on better footing and so are the other higher schools of the conference, but several are barely hanging on and have no real plan to pull themselves up if something doesn't happen before the end of the current deals. The OP wasn't wrong that there are cracks and there could be some kind of fallout, even if some real breakup of the entire conference isn't ever going to happen.

Washington State athletic department projects $67 million hole, will discuss plans to reduce debt at Board of Regents meeting

But our athletic debt is child's play to Cal.

 

[Kaplony]

Dunno about the rest of them but rest assured the ACC will trip over itself inviting Wazzou & Oregon State because adding worthless football programs is what the ACC does.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

But our athletic debt is child's play to Cal.

It looks like Cal's athletic department debt is less than Wash St in the short term, but that idiotic stadium financing deal is going to kill them. BTW, the debt is no longer the ADs debt, it is the schools debt, so the AD debt is not what it was on paper.

Still, debt is debt. My wife might owe $5,000,000 and if I accept that $5,000,000 t is still owed by someone in my family and the debt service is coming out of OUR budget.

A guaranteed $18,000,000 per year in interest payments for 14 years, THEN they start paying principal where the payments jump to $30,000,000 per year.

Unfortunately for UC, their stadium is built over a fault line. Which they did not know back in the day, but they doubled down and chose to pour money into something that will collapse with a shake that is bigger than designed for. Since the contract went out to the lowest bidder and not the safest and smartest structural bidder, you can bet your sweet bippy that the stadium will collapse.

Politicians are only reactive and not proactive anymore. Same with schools administrators.

You can still count on the Mercury News for unbiased reporting.

 

[BamaDude]

Eh. It isn't a question of who is bigger. Honestly I'd guess we are fairly equal in stature right now (you guys have old history, we have scoreboard, both are top 15ish type schools recently).

The question was who would the Big 12 take. Colorado has history and Utah is a traveling partner. The AZ schools are the next two logical options. The blue bloods in the mega tv market are right there as well. Not saying you guys suck, just that if one conference is raiding the other you are low on the pecking order

Realistically, the Big 12 has little chance of raiding the Pac-12 for members, other than Colorado & Utah. The Pac's core members in the coastal states have broken up on numerous occasions, but always come back together. Idaho & Montana are the only ones that left and stayed gone. The Arizona schools have become so well integrated into the Pac core that they aren't too likely to stray, either. There is a certain interdependence among those 10 that would be hard to break up.

On the other hand, it is unlikely the Pac-12 could currently poach anyone from the B-12 as long as the Pac's payouts from its tv deals remains bottom of the barrel. The Big 12 is still the power league most likely to get raided, due to its proximity to the SEC, Big 10 & ACC.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Realistically, the Big 12 has little chance of raiding the Pac-12 for members, other than Colorado & Utah. The Pac's core members in the coastal states have broken up on numerous occasions, but always come back together. Idaho & Montana are the only ones that left and stayed gone. The Arizona schools have become so well integrated into the Pac core that they aren't too likely to stray, either. There is a certain interdependence among those 10 that would be hard to break up.

On the other hand, it is unlikely the Pac-12 could currently poach anyone from the B-12 as long as the Pac's payouts from its tv deals remains bottom of the barrel. The Big 12 is still the power league most likely to get raided, due to its proximity to the SEC, Big 10 & ACC.

sorry, but money talks. If you combine your theory with logic, the ACC would be most likely to get poached. They're smack dab in SEC and the outskirts of new Big ten country, and have some canidates that both conferences would love (Virginia, UNC, FSU, etc)

 

[Innermind]

Dunno about the rest of them but rest assured the ACC will trip over itself inviting Wazzou & Oregon State because adding worthless football programs is what the ACC does.

Don't get Mr. Brown angry......you wouldn't like him when he's angry.

 

[OregonDucks]

This talk wasn't happening when Oregon was winning the conference. Nice job fuskies really dropping the ball here.

When Oregon was atop the talk of town was ADDING Texas and Oklahoma to the PAC. The feeling was the conference needed to bulk up and get better to try and compete with the Ducks.

 

[Deep Creek]

The Big 12 is still the power league most likely to get raided, due to its proximity to the SEC, Big 10 & ACC.

The only two schools in the Big 12 desired by anyone are Texas and Oklahoma. Basketball conferences would like Kansas.

Other than that, no P5 wants any of the rest of 'em.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

The only two schools in the Big 12 desired by anyone are Texas and Oklahoma. Basketball conferences would like Kansas.

Other than that, no P5 wants any of the rest of 'em.

West Virginia makes some good coin with their Tier 3 rights, they have a way bigger fan base then maybe some think.

 

[Olyduck]

sorry, but money talks. If you combine your theory with logic, the ACC would be most likely to get poached. They're smack dab in SEC and the outskirts of new Big ten country, and have some canidates that both conferences would love (Virginia, UNC, FSU, etc)

and how would that shake out? the SEC and Big 10 are already at 14 can imagine more than a 2 team in crease to either. Big 12 would try to get in on it even going to 16 still 4 teams out in the cold. Pac would not even remotely be able to make a move unless they poached from Big 12.

none of that makes any real sense.

 

[outofyourmind]

These merge with the Big XII
Big 16

USC
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Stanford
Cal
UCLA

Iowa State and Baylor get dumped

 

[ralphiewvu]

These merge with the Big XII
Big 16

USC
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Stanford
Cal
UCLA

Iowa State and Baylor get dumped

Yeah WV to California or Arizona every year for conference games. Bahahahahahahahahaha. Like that would happen