Sparhawk
SportsHoopla Ombudsman
Not true. Few of my bro's on the 'inside' told me what they know. DSJ is the rookie that means the most to his team....thems the facts.
WRONG
Not true. Few of my bro's on the 'inside' told me what they know. DSJ is the rookie that means the most to his team....thems the facts.
Not true. Few of my bro's on the 'inside' told me what they know. DSJ is the rookie that means the most to his team....thems the facts.
This actually brings up an interesting point similar to the MVP discussion every year.
Is the MVP the best player or the guy who means the most to his team?
Same with ROY. I don't think DSJ is the best rookie, but he may very well mean the most to his team.
For example, Simmons looks to be a better player than DSJ. But I'd wager that given the emergence of some of their other players, especially Embiid, the Sixers would fare batter without him than Dallas would without DSJ.
Not true. Few of my bro's on the 'inside' told me what they know. DSJ is the rookie that means the most to his team....thems the facts.
Yes
DSJ plays on the worst Mavs team around here since Brad Davis was slingin' the rock. Dwight Powell is no Embiid. lol
This actually brings up an interesting point similar to the MVP discussion every year.
Is the MVP the best player or the guy who means the most to his team?
Same with ROY. I don't think DSJ is the best rookie, but he may very well mean the most to his team.
For example, Simmons looks to be a better player than DSJ. But I'd wager that given the emergence of some of their other players, especially Embiid, the Sixers would fare batter without him than Dallas would without DSJ.
The Mavs have the worst record in basketball. How much worse would they be without DSJ?
That argument makes some sense with Donovan Mitchell as he is the offensive sparkplug that team desperately needs. Not so much with DSJ.
Replace DSJ with Kuzma or Mitchell and yes.This actually brings up an interesting point similar to the MVP discussion every year.
Is the MVP the best player or the guy who means the most to his team?
Same with ROY. I don't think DSJ is the best rookie, but he may very well mean the most to his team.
For example, Simmons looks to be a better player than DSJ. But I'd wager that given the emergence of some of their other players, especially Embiid, the Sixers would fare batter without him than Dallas would without DSJ.
Wrong, he is the first and only piece of the Mavs moving forward, post Nowitzki. There will be a lottery pick again this upcoming off season and a big name FA this off season. Mavs future doesn't exist without DSJ...the leading ROY candidate.
The Mavs have the worst record in basketball. How much worse would they be without DSJ?
That argument makes some sense with Donovan Mitchell as he is the offensive sparkplug that team desperately needs. Not so much with DSJ.
The problem with the team records argument is that 1 player doesn't have a whole lot of control over how good the rest of the roster is, unless that player is a generational type talent like Lebron.
The Mavs have arguably the least talented roster in the league supporting a rookie who seems to be their 1st, 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th option.
As bad as the Mavs are with DSJ, they'd likely be far worse without him. We may be talking single digit wins level bad.
I agree that it's highly unlikely he wins ROY. Like most here, I think it will come down to Simmons/Mitchell unless someone else in the convo just goes out of their mind the rest of the way. But that doesn't mean that a case can't be made for him.
Well Harrison Barnes leads the team in scoring so I'd say he's one of the top options as well.
I think just about every team with a top rookie could make a similar argument. Look at Boston. Tatum's absurdly high shooting percentage drops down and the Celtics start to look really average. Where would the Sixers be without Simmons? No way the Jazz would be making a playoff run without Mitchell.
Yeah barring something really really strange happening, it is going to be Simmons or Mitchell.
The problem with the team records argument is that 1 player doesn't have a whole lot of control over how good the rest of the roster is, unless that player is a generational type talent like Lebron.
That's why I stopped responding.So, uh, we all recognize that we are trying to logically deal with a poor trolling attempt, yes???
I know he's got no chance......but he's doing a lot for a crappy team. He's never even MENTIONED most of the time when ROY is discussed, despite his numbers
Because the top 2 are leaps and bounds ahead of the field. No point in seriously discussing anybody beyond them.
But yeah, DSJ is doing pretty well too.
Ben Simmons came back from the ASG break roaring. 32 points 11 assists 7 rebounds a block and a steal.