The NBA rookies Thread

[Hambombs]

Brandon Jennings back to the bucks watch

 

[Mecca]

Agreed with all of this. I actually think that Reddick helps a lot as well because he is a persistent perimeter threat so Simmons can often kick it out to him.

Simmons has a long way to go offensively. He probably is a long way from developing a 3 point shot but hopefully he will work on that 18 foot pullup jumper which is going to make him really tough to defend. If he can get a 3 point shot that hits in the 30s, I'm not sure he is defensible.

You think they will keep JJ?

I love what he gives you guys.

I really wanted you guys, or OKC, to grab Lou Williams.

If you guys don't get LeBron, think they would take a 1 year flyer on a guy like Midget Isiah Thomas?

You guys have the length to mitigate his lack of defense.

 

[flyerhawk]

You think they will keep JJ?

I love what he gives you guys.

I really wanted you guys, or OKC, to grab Lou Williams.

If you guys don't get LeBron, think they would take a 1 year flyer on a guy like Midget Isiah Thomas?

You guys have the length to mitigate his lack of defense.

No way on Thomas. Maybe Tyreke Evans or Avery Bradley. Not much change they are bringing Reddick back at the salary he got, that's for sure.

 

[bksballer89]

Just saw this and made me think of this thread from earlier today lol

 

[flyerhawk]

Just saw this and made me think of this thread from earlier today lol

LOL. Yeah. I like Vernon. Obviously he has a Grizzlies bias but it's kinda irrelevant.

 

[flyerhawk]

@Mecca What are your thoughts on Simmons game tonight?

 

[Mecca]

@Mecca What are your thoughts on Simmons game tonight?

Sensational....

Did it without EMBIID.

The Jazz won too.

But, against the Suns with another subpar shooting night for Mitchell.

This is going to be a tight race.

In a perfect world * My perfect world*, they would tie like Hill and Kidd.

I done think that will happen though..

Because Ben looks like a walking triple double threat almost every night.

 

[starbigd]

fuck it I'm still voting Dennis Smith if I had a vote

Well, he's at least in the convo IMO.

 

[flyerhawk]

Sensational....

Did it without EMBIID.

The Jazz won too.

But, against the Suns with another subpar shooting night for Mitchell.

This is going to be a tight race.

In a perfect world * My perfect world*, they would tie like Hill and Kidd.

I done think that will happen though..

Because Ben looks like a walking triple double threat almost every night.

What's interesting to me is that Mitchell is so offensive focused whereas Simmons is really a much better player on defense. He can cover almost anyone on the court, save real slashers like Westbrook or Mitchell honestly.

I really need to watch some more Mitchell. Haven't really watched any Jazz during this winning streak.

 

[Mecca]

Those numbers are ignoring defense.
Going by advanced stats at Basketball Reference, their TS% are nearly identical.

But, other than TRB%, AST%, BLK%, OWS, DWS, WS, WS/48, OBPM, DBPM, BPM, and VORP, I would agree that Mitchell has the edge, especially in TOV% and USG%.....

Defense?

Concede...lol

I'm tempted to use Donovan's height as an excuse.

But, George Hill, Rondo, Cp3 manage.

Truth is, Donovan is singularly focused on one end of the court and just depends on Gobert to clean up his mess.

What's interesting to me is that Mitchell is so offensive focused whereas Simmons is really a much better player on defense. He can cover almost anyone on the court, save real slashers like Westbrook or Mitchell honestly.

I really need to watch some more Mitchell. Haven't really watched any Jazz during this winning streak.

Yeah, I said the same thing yesterday right before our cyber-sparring session.

* see above

Mitchell is singularly focused.

Part of that, I think, is effort.

But, a bigger part is because he plays with Gobert.

I have seen this with my Clippers for years.

Blake didn't average a block a game, double digit boards, because he knew Deandre would compensate his lack of effort.

That's a Shit mentality...imo

 

[Mecca]

fuck it I'm still voting Dennis Smith if I had a vote

Well, he's at least in the convo IMO.

....Eh.

I think he's 5th behind Mitchell, Simmons, Kuzma, Tatum.

But, he looks like he's going to be a stud.

 

[starbigd]

....Eh.

I think he's 5th behind Mitchell, Simmons, Kuzma, Tatum.

But, he looks like he's going to be a stud.

I know he's got no chance......but he's doing a lot for a crappy team. He's never even MENTIONED most of the time when ROY is discussed, despite his numbers

 

[Mecca]

I know he's got no chance......but he's doing a lot for a crappy team. He's never even MENTIONED most of the time when ROY is discussed, despite his numbers

Well, if it makes you feel any better, he was my pick for ROY before the Season started.

I think it's somewhere on the first few pages.

But, going back on my phone is to much of a Shitshow to find it...lol

He has Superstar potential.

But, he needs to reign it in a tad bit at times.

 

[Mecca]

DSJ, Simmons, Fox, Tatum, Markkenan balled out.

DSJ will get Roy.

I know he's got no chance......but he's doing a lot for a crappy team. He's never even MENTIONED most of the time when ROY is discussed, despite his numbers

NVM.....found it...lol

So, I'm sipping the Kool Aid with ya....

 

[flyerhawk]

NVM.....found it...lol

So, I'm sipping the Kool Aid with ya....

DSJ was the fan favorite after the summer league, along with Lonzo.

 

[handicappers]

Just talked with some of my NBA contacts and from what I'm hearing, DSJ is in the lead for ROY.

 

[flyerhawk]

Just talked with some of my NBA contacts and from what I'm hearing, DSJ is in the lead for ROY.

Just because you have League Pass doesn't make you a NBA contact.

There is zero chance that DSJ is in the lead for ROY. He's not even in the top 3.

 

[Sparhawk]

Just because you have League Pass doesn't make you a NBA contact.

There is zero chance that DSJ is in the lead for ROY. He's not even in the top 3.

Don't feed the troll.....

 

[trojanfan12]

Just talked with some of my NBA contacts and from what I'm hearing, DSJ is in the lead for ROY.

Those aren't NBA contacts, it's just the voices in your head. You must have forgotten to take your meds again.

 

[handicappers]

Just because you have League Pass doesn't make you a NBA contact.

There is zero chance that DSJ is in the lead for ROY. He's not even in the top 3.

Not true. Few of my bro's on the 'inside' told me what they know. DSJ is the rookie that means the most to his team....thems the facts.

Those aren't NBA contacts, it's just the voices in your head. You must have forgotten to take your meds again.

whatever you say, your excellency.