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[michaeljordan_fan]

But but but ... can SEC teams still play Mercer and Towsend and Chattanooga and Presbyterian in late November at home? lol

I don't care as much about WHEN the games are played, SEC plays conference games before everyone else.

 

[outofyourmind]

Haven't you heard. It's no advantage. None at all.

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[socaljim242]

I don't care as much about WHEN the games are played, SEC plays conference games before everyone else.

Everyone else? USC has played a conference game the second game of the year a few times in the past couple years and no later than the third. I just randomly checked and SEC teams usually start conference play on the third game or the fourth game for many.
Still yu can't tell me playing Mercer in late November isn;t a help when most other teams are playing not only conference games but rivals.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Everyone else? USC has played a conference game the second game of the year a few times in the past couple years and no later than the third. I just randomly checked and SEC teams usually start conference play on the third game or the fourth game for many.
Still yu can't tell me playing Mercer in late November isn;t a help when most other teams are playing not only conference games but rivals.

It's a help for the next game...playing a patsy for Week 1 also helps as a tune-up. I realize USC is an exception when it comes to scheduling.

 

[4down20]

Whats funny is
the SEC played 122 games against FBS schools since 2007
The PAC played 65. lol

So your list is laughable. lol

It's almost as if there are more SEC teams than Pac1012 teams.

 

[Gator]

Whats funny is
the SEC played 122 games against FBS schools since 2007
The PAC played 65. lol

So your list is laughable. lol

Cherry picking!!!
First, the SEC has played 120 FBS teams and the PAC has played 66 since 2007 (that's 54 more for the SEC).
http://www.sportshoop.la/cfbt_recor...n&fcn=on&schedanl=on&cres=1&scrview=2&iall=on

Second:
the SEC has played 941 teams with D1A winning records vs 764 for the PAC (that's 177 more for the SEC).
the SEC has played 517 AP year ranked teams vs 403 for the PAC (that's 114 more for the SEC).
the SEC has played 255 AP Top 10 ranked teams vs 173 for the PAC (that's 82 more for the SEC).

Since 54 is less than 177 and less than 114, and less than 82, YOU LOSE yet again! Your arguments are lame.

 

[Gator]

But but but ... can SEC teams still play Mercer and Towsend and Chattanooga and Presbyterian in late November at home? lol

Your arguments are lame. USC does cheesy scheduling also.

In odd years when you travel to ND, USC gives themselves 9-14 days off.
2015-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/26 at *Arizona State (6-7)
10/08 vs. *Washington (7-6) 12 days off
10/17 at Notre Dame (10-3) 9 days off,

2013-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/28 at *Arizona State (10-4)
10/10 vs. *Arizona (8-5) 12 days off
10/19 at Notre Dame (9-4) 9 days off

2011-Southern California (Pac 12)
10/01 vs. *Arizona (4-8)
10/13 at *California (7-6) 12 days off
10/22 at Notre Dame (8-5) 9 days off

2009-Southern California (Pac 10)
10/03 at *California (8-5)
10/17 at Notre Dame (6-6) 2 weeks off

USC also gives itself extra time off before other big OOC games

2008-Southern California (Pac 10)
08/30 at Virginia (5-7)
09/13 vs. Ohio State (10-3) 2 weeks off
09/25 at *Oregon State (9-4) 2 weeks off
11/15 at *Stanford (5-7)
11/29 vs. Notre Dame (7-6) 2 weeks off


2007-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/01 vs. Idaho (1-11)
09/15 at Nebraska (5-7) 2 weeks off
11/10 at *California (7-6)
11/22 at *Arizona State (10-3) 12 days off
12/01 vs. *UCLA (6-7) 9 days off


2006-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/02 at Arkansas (10-4)
09/16 vs. Nebraska (9-5) 2 weeks off

 

[7Samurai13]

Your arguments are lame. USC does cheesy scheduling also.

In odd years when you travel to ND, USC gives themselves 9-14 days off.
2015-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/26 at *Arizona State (6-7)
10/08 vs. *Washington (7-6) 12 days off
10/17 at Notre Dame (10-3) 9 days off,

2013-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/28 at *Arizona State (10-4)
10/10 vs. *Arizona (8-5) 12 days off
10/19 at Notre Dame (9-4) 9 days off

2011-Southern California (Pac 12)
10/01 vs. *Arizona (4-8)
10/13 at *California (7-6) 12 days off
10/22 at Notre Dame (8-5) 9 days off

2009-Southern California (Pac 10)
10/03 at *California (8-5)
10/17 at Notre Dame (6-6) 2 weeks off

USC also gives itself extra time off before other big OOC games

2008-Southern California (Pac 10)
08/30 at Virginia (5-7)
09/13 vs. Ohio State (10-3) 2 weeks off
09/25 at *Oregon State (9-4) 2 weeks off
11/15 at *Stanford (5-7)
11/29 vs. Notre Dame (7-6) 2 weeks off


2007-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/01 vs. Idaho (1-11)
09/15 at Nebraska (5-7) 2 weeks off
11/10 at *California (7-6)
11/22 at *Arizona State (10-3) 12 days off
12/01 vs. *UCLA (6-7) 9 days off


2006-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/02 at Arkansas (10-4)
09/16 vs. Nebraska (9-5) 2 weeks off

How does USC give themselves two weeks off three times in one season?

 

[Gator]

How does USC give themselves two weeks off three times in one season?

It easy, you're USC! Here is their complete 2008 schedule.

8-30-2008 V Virginia
2 weeks
9-13-2008 H Ohio St.
2 weeks
9-25-2008 V Oregon St.
10-4-2008 H Oregon
10-11-2008 H Arizona St.
10-18-2008 V Washington St.
10-25-2008 V Arizona
11-1-2008 H Washington
11-8-2008 H California
11-15-2008 V Stanford
2 weeks
11-29-2008 H Notre Dame
12-6-2008 V UCLA
1-1-2009 N Penn St.

 

[7Samurai13]

It easy, you're USC! Here is their complete 2008 schedule.

8-30-2008 V Virginia
2 weeks
9-13-2008 H Ohio St.
2 weeks
9-25-2008 V Oregon St.
10-4-2008 H Oregon
10-11-2008 H Arizona St.
10-18-2008 V Washington St.
10-25-2008 V Arizona
11-1-2008 H Washington
11-8-2008 H California
11-15-2008 V Stanford
2 weeks
11-29-2008 H Notre Dame
12-6-2008 V UCLA
1-1-2009 N Penn St.

I saw that they did it, I just don't know how.

Now I see. It was pre-championship game and they played through the first weekend of December.

 

[Gator]

I saw that they did it, I just don't know how.

Now I see. It was pre-championship game and they played through the first weekend of December.

Right, the PAC moved games back to December for conference visibility which gave them an extra week that the other conferences didn't have because of the Conf Championship games. Is that cowardly scheduling? No. it is smart scheduling. Just like spreading out the easy OOC games instead of having them clustered in August and September. As an aside, I think the BiG should learn from this. Some folks insist that OSU and UM be in the same division to avoid back to back OSU/UM games. If the BiG moved one (or two) of their OOC games to the end of the season, then the OSU/UM would still be the last CONF game of the season and any rematch would be two or three weeks later. With games in between, rematches aren't that bad. The same could be said for the Big 12. The ACC and SEC have their BIG inter-conference games (FSU/UF, GT/UGa, Clemson/USC) AFTER the Conference games are over.

 

[7Samurai13]

Right, the PAC moved games back to December for conference visibility which gave them an extra week that the other conferences didn't have because of the Conf Championship games. Is that cowardly scheduling? No. it is smart scheduling. Just like spreading out the easy OOC games instead of having them clustered in August and September. As an aside, I think the BiG should learn from this. Some folks insist that OSU and UM be in the same division to avoid back to back OSU/UM games. If the BiG moved one (or two) of their OOC games to the end of the season, then the OSU/UM would still be the last CONF game of the season and any rematch would be two or three weeks later. With games in between, rematches aren't that bad. The same could be said for the Big 12. The ACC and SEC have their BIG inter-conference games (FSU/UF, GT/UGa, Clemson/USC) AFTER the Conference games are over.

Those games though are locked games, Michigan and Ohio State do not have an OOC game that they play every year. What I would like to see would be the B1G go back to 8 conference games, require two P5 opponents. In conference do away with divisions, have three locked "rival" opponents and then two pools of five that rotate every other year. That would give Michigan; Ohio State, Michigan State, and Minnesota every year and the other ten teams split in half. Odd years Nebraska, Rutgers, Indiana, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Even years Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Purdue, and Penn State. And before Michigan fans get pisses, I want two of the teams to be tougher and one easier for the top teams, which is why it's not Penn State, Nebraska, or Wisconsin over Minnesota.

 

[Gator]

Those games though are locked games, Michigan and Ohio State do not have an OOC game that they play every year. What I would like to see would be the B1G go back to 8 conference games, require two P5 opponents. In conference do away with divisions, have three locked "rival" opponents and then two pools of five that rotate every other year. That would give Michigan; Ohio State, Michigan State, and Minnesota every year and the other ten teams split in half. Odd years Nebraska, Rutgers, Indiana, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Even years Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Purdue, and Penn State. And before Michigan fans get pisses, I want two of the teams to be tougher and one easier for the top teams, which is why it's not Penn State, Nebraska, or Wisconsin over Minnesota.

But think about this, after the last conference games but before the Conf Champ Game, the BiG plays these H and H.
Indiana/Kentucky
Iowa/Iowa State
NWU/Vandy
Illinois/Mizzou
PSU/Pitt
Rutgers/Syracuse
OSU/Miami
Nebraska/OU
Maryland/WVU
UM/Tenn (ND?)
Wisc/LSU
MSU/VT
Minn/Ark
Purdue?

 

[7Samurai13]

But think about this, after the last conference games but before the Conf Champ Game, the BiG plays these H and H.
Indiana/Kentucky
Iowa/Iowa State
NWU/Vandy
Illinois/Mizzou
PSU/Pitt
Rutgers/Syracuse
OSU/Miami
Nebraska/OU
Maryland/WVU
UM/Tenn (ND?)
Wisc/LSU
MSU/VT
Minn/Ark
Purdue?

Outside Pitt/PSU I think you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone to want to be annual rivals. Big10, Big12, and PAC12 play 9 conference games which would essentially lock them from playing any other teams because not many teams are going to want 11 P5 teams on their scehdule on regular basis. I'm not opposed to those games being played late but no one is going to want to lock themselves out of playing any other P5 teams.

 

[TROJAN-MAN]

How does USC give themselves two weeks off three times in one season?

Gator =

 

[4down20]

Gator =

I guess you missed the part where he showed USC getting it.

 

[Gator]

I guess you missed the part where he showed USC getting it.

He's not the brightest and is easily confused by facts.

 

[jon2tanman]

You might be a little disappointed.
USC: 16 games: 2 T10: 4 Yr Rnk: 9 P5: 0 FCS: 10 teams w/ D1A win recds: 11 Bowl Teams
UCLA: 15 games: 0 T10: 2 Yr Rnk: 6 P5: 0 FCS: 7 teams w/ D1A win recds: 8 Bowl Teams
Stanford: 15 games: 1 T10: 5 Yr Rnk: 8 P5: 1 FCS: 7 teams w/ D1A win recds: 8 Bowl Teams
Ariz. St.: 15 games: 0 T10: 2 Yr Rnk: 7 P5: 5 FCS: 5 teams w/ D1A win recds: 6 Bowl Teams
Oregon: 15 games: 2 T10: 2 Yr Rnk: 6 P5: 5 FCS: 5 teams w/ D1A win recds: 6 Bowl Teams
California: 15 games: 1 T10: 3 Yr Rnk: 6 P5: 4 FCS: 6 teams w/ D1A win recds: 6 Bowl Teams
Wash.: 16 games: 0 T10: 1 Yr Rnk: 4 P5: 5 FCS: 5 teams w/ D1A win recds: 7 Bowl Teams
Oregon St.: 15 games: 0 T10: 1 Yr Rnk: 3 P5: 5 FCS: 7 teams w/ D1A win recds: 8 Bowl Teams
Wash. St.: 15 games: 1 T10: 1 Yr Rnk: 3 P5: 5 FCS: 6 teams w/ D1A win recds: 6 Bowl Teams
Utah: 15 games: 0 T10: 2 Yr Rnk: 2 P5: 4 FCS: 6 teams w/ D1A win recds: 8 Bowl Teams
Arizona: 15 games: 0 T10: 0 Yr Rnk: 1 P5: 4 FCS: 7 teams w/ D1A win recds: 7 Bowl Teams
Colorado: 16 games: 1 T10: 1 Yr Rnk: 1 P5: 5 FCS: 6 teams w/ D1A win recds: 6 Bowl Teams


Yes, and for the 100th time, the bowl selections are based on all 12 games and NOT just 3!!!

They are having a tough time getting all bowl games filled with 6 win teams. So yes those OOC cupcakes are YUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!!! Win 6 games=bowl game. Everyone knows this

 

[jon2tanman]

Cherry picking!!!
First, the SEC has played 120 FBS teams and the PAC has played 66 since 2007 (that's 54 more for the SEC).
http://www.sportshoop.la/cfbt_recor...n&fcn=on&schedanl=on&cres=1&scrview=2&iall=on

Second:
the SEC has played 941 teams with D1A winning records vs 764 for the PAC (that's 177 more for the SEC).
the SEC has played 517 AP year ranked teams vs 403 for the PAC (that's 114 more for the SEC).
the SEC has played 255 AP Top 10 ranked teams vs 173 for the PAC (that's 82 more for the SEC).

Since 54 is less than 177 and less than 114, and less than 82, YOU LOSE yet again! Your arguments are lame.

Also with the extra FCS win each year it raises the win totals for all SEC teams. We are talking about OOC, so please stay on the topic.

 

[socaljim242]

Your arguments are lame. USC does cheesy scheduling also.

In odd years when you travel to ND, USC gives themselves 9-14 days off.
2015-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/26 at *Arizona State (6-7)
10/08 vs. *Washington (7-6) 12 days off
10/17 at Notre Dame (10-3) 9 days off,

2013-Southern California (Pac 12)
09/28 at *Arizona State (10-4)
10/10 vs. *Arizona (8-5) 12 days off
10/19 at Notre Dame (9-4) 9 days off

2011-Southern California (Pac 12)
10/01 vs. *Arizona (4-8)
10/13 at *California (7-6) 12 days off
10/22 at Notre Dame (8-5) 9 days off

2009-Southern California (Pac 10)
10/03 at *California (8-5)
10/17 at Notre Dame (6-6) 2 weeks off

USC also gives itself extra time off before other big OOC games

2008-Southern California (Pac 10)
08/30 at Virginia (5-7)
09/13 vs. Ohio State (10-3) 2 weeks off
09/25 at *Oregon State (9-4) 2 weeks off
11/15 at *Stanford (5-7)
11/29 vs. Notre Dame (7-6) 2 weeks off


2007-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/01 vs. Idaho (1-11)
09/15 at Nebraska (5-7) 2 weeks off
11/10 at *California (7-6)
11/22 at *Arizona State (10-3) 12 days off
12/01 vs. *UCLA (6-7) 9 days off


2006-Southern California (Pac 10)
09/02 at Arkansas (10-4)
09/16 vs. Nebraska (9-5) 2 weeks off

It's called a bye week. Are you new to football? Or are you just used to bye weeks called Charleston Southern?