POLL Kobe or Harden

[Ojb81]

You are entitled to your opinion.

mm-hmm! mm-hmm!

 

[Ojb81]

I prefer to be called a genius.

how about "sherlock"?

you can say, "kobe is obviously better than dirk", and i'll reply with, "no shit, sherlock"

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Yes

And how so?

 

[GNG]

mm-hmm! mm-hmm!

 

[ericd7633]

he won't. and he'll never achieve the playoff accomplishments of kobe

He's only 28, odds are likely he has at least another 3/4 seasons before he declines.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Simple Thread, just curious where this board feels on this. Had a relative of mine insist that Harden is better.

Get him some professional counselling - He is very sick

 

[Ojb81]

He's only 28, odds are likely he has at least another 3/4 seasons before he declines.

quit sucking harden's dick, you pud. kobe is, and always will be, in a league far above james harden.

 

[GNG]

how about "sherlock"?

you can say, "kobe is obviously better than dirk", and i'll reply with, "no shit, sherlock"

But Kobe isn't better than Dirk.

 

[Ojb81]

But Kobe isn't better than Dirk.

yes. he is.

 

[GNG]

yes. he is.

 

[ericd7633]

quit sucking harden's dick, you pud. kobe is, and always will be, in a league far above james harden.

lmao. I'm not sucking his dick. Everything I said was a fact, deal with it how you may.

 

[Ojb81]

lmao. I'm not sucking his dick. Everything I said was a fact, deal with it how you may.

"*sniff* *snivel* i hated that damned kobe, what with his championship pedigree and all! I'll take any opportunity i can to knock him down a peg! *snivel snivel*"

 

[tlance]

Recency Bias.

* See LeBron is better than Jordan debate

@tlance ...

I will cut your ass to the pink meat if you respond!!!!!

Saying Harden is a better offensive player is not a knock on Kobe. Kobe is an alltime great. Harden is not on that level because he doesn't defend.

But offensively? I would love to see somebody make an objective argument for Kobe here.

-Harden has a higher career PER. His best season has a PER of 29.8 compared to Kobe's best of 28.0.
-Harden has posted over 10 offensive win shares each of the last 5 seasons, while Kobe only posted 3 such seasons over the course of his career.
-Kobe's career best true shooting percentage is .580. Harden has had 1 season in his entire career lower than .598.
-Kobe had had 3 seasons over 6 assists per game with a career best of 6.3. Harden has been over 7 assists a game the last 4 years, with a career best of 11.2.

Like I said, the numbers aren't all that close. If you have 1 possession with the game on the line, I take Kobe. But for the other 47 minutes it is Harden. Offensively at least.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Saying Harden is a better offensive player is not a knock on Kobe. Kobe is an alltime great. Harden is not on that level because he doesn't defend.

But offensively? I would love to see somebody make an objective argument for Kobe here.

-Harden has a higher career PER. His best season has a PER of 29.8 compared to Kobe's best of 28.0.
-Harden has posted over 10 offensive win shares each of the last 5 seasons, while Kobe only posted 3 such seasons over the course of his career.
-Kobe's career best true shooting percentage is .580. Harden has had 1 season in his entire career lower than .598.
-Kobe had had 3 seasons over 6 assists per game with a career best of 6.3. Harden has been over 7 assists a game the last 4 years, with a career best of 11.2.

Like I said, the numbers aren't all that close. If you have 1 possession with the game on the line, I take Kobe. But for the other 47 minutes it is Harden. Offensively at least.

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[Ojb81]

Saying Harden is a better offensive player is not a knock on Kobe. Kobe is an alltime great. Harden is not on that level because he doesn't defend.

But offensively? I would love to see somebody make an objective argument for Kobe here.

-Harden has a higher career PER. His best season has a PER of 29.8 compared to Kobe's best of 28.0.
-Harden has posted over 10 offensive win shares each of the last 5 seasons, while Kobe only posted 3 such seasons over the course of his career.
-Kobe's career best true shooting percentage is .580. Harden has had 1 season in his entire career lower than .598.
-Kobe had had 3 seasons over 6 assists per game with a career best of 6.3. Harden has been over 7 assists a game the last 4 years, with a career best of 11.2.

Like I said, the numbers aren't all that close. If you have 1 possession with the game on the line, I take Kobe. But for the other 47 minutes it is Harden. Offensively at least.

k. the original premise was "who's the better player?" that encompasses offense AND.AND...AND...and defense. again, it's not close. harden not on kobe's level, and harden DAMN sure isn't the leader that kobe was.

 

[ericd7633]

"*sniff* *snivel* i hated that damned kobe, what with his championship pedigree and all! I'll take any opportunity i can to knock him down a peg! *snivel snivel*"

I loved watching Kobe play. I'm not knocking him, I just posted facts.

 

[Ojb81]

I loved watching Kobe play. I'm not knocking him, I just posted facts.

"*sniff*"

 

[tlance]

k. the original premise was "who's the better player?" that encompasses offense AND.AND...AND...and defense. again, it's not close. harden not on kobe's level, and harden DAMN sure isn't the leader that kobe was.

And in my original post, which you gave a BS rating to I said Kobe was better overall and that it wasn't close.

There are quite a few players better than Kobe offensively. Not many better overall.

 

[bksballer89]

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So Devin Booker is the best offensive player in the league now?

 

[Mecca]

Saying Harden is a better offensive player is not a knock on Kobe. Kobe is an alltime great. Harden is not on that level because he doesn't defend.

But offensively? I would love to see somebody make an objective argument for Kobe here.

-Harden has a higher career PER. His best season has a PER of 29.8 compared to Kobe's best of 28.0.
-Harden has posted over 10 offensive win shares each of the last 5 seasons, while Kobe only posted 3 such seasons over the course of his career.
-Kobe's career best true shooting percentage is .580. Harden has had 1 season in his entire career lower than .598.
-Kobe had had 3 seasons over 6 assists per game with a career best of 6.3. Harden has been over 7 assists a game the last 4 years, with a career best of 11.2.

Like I said, the numbers aren't all that close. If you have 1 possession with the game on the line, I take Kobe. But for the other 47 minutes it is Harden. Offensively at least.

Dude, I would take any other legitimate option over Kobe.

Offensively.......meaning scoring, creating for himself and others.....Agree.

Harden.

But, as you stated...

Better all around player, that peanut head mofo in purp and gold.

Ps. Thank you for not acknowledging my Jordan statement.