Would you make a trade?

[lasgop8]

What you guys are completely ignoring is that the Flyers are at nowhere near the level of the other teams you have mentioned that were lower seeds that got in and were hot

This team has some legitimate flaws and now all of a sudden, after one week where they beat a middling Devils team, lost to a Montreal team that has gone downward for months and needed OT(and gave up four goals) to beat the worst team in the league, people think this team can make the playoffs?

If they get in as a wild card, they'll get spanked by either Washington or the Panthers - Washington is way too deep with great goaltending and the Panthers have great chemistry with a perfect mix of veterans and young players and a goalie who has been terrific this season

I don't think I'm about to buy what some of you are selling - nice that y'all are optimistic but I hope some reality gets sprinkled in at some point

This is exactly what everyone was saying about the Flyers and the Kings before they made their run to the cup. We do know this team plays well against playoff teams

 

[Maverick426h]

Honestly, I don't think the Panthers are that good. Forty-four year old Jagr is going to hit a wall late in the season (as we know from past experience) and when he does, they are going to plummet. I don't know if Luongo can keep it going at an elite level at his age either. If one of or both of them get injured or fall off significantly, they are toast.

I believe we can beat the Panthers in a seven game series with our top six or seven guys healthy.

 

[JBM73]

We'll take Dano (or their 1st in 2016) and a 3rd (2016) from the Hawks for Medvedev and Raffl.

I could see a 3rd and 4th for Raffl and Medvedev, or Dano and a 3rd for Schenn and Medvedev. Chicago has no 2nd round pick in 2016.

 

[Maverick426h]

I could see a 3rd and 4th for Raffl and Medvedev, or Dano and a 3rd for Schenn and Medvedev.

Well, we already have their 2nd from this year via Timonen, so it would have to be their 2nd in 2017. Idk if we would give up Schenn that easily either.

 

[JBM73]

Haha yep, just added that.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Flyers need to get on the move and start piling up draft picks

It is nice to have first rounders but you can really make hay with seconds as well

Gagner, Streit, Raffl, Read, and Gudas all should be available.

We have a ton of picks already. Any more and we'll be primed to trade up.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Gagner, Streit, Raffl, Read, and Gudas all should be available.

We have a ton of picks already. Any more and we'll be primed to trade up.

Yep, they have the option of either keeping all of those picks and loading up the farm even more or trading up

Apparently after the first 10, the draft isn't necessarily great - but these kids are so young that they can still develop over time

 

[Cobiemonster]

Honestly, I don't think the Panthers are that good. Forty-four year old Jagr is going to hit a wall late in the season (as we know from past experience) and when he does, they are going to plummet. I don't know if Luongo can keep it going at an elite level at his age either. If one of or both of them get injured or fall off significantly, they are toast.

I believe we can beat the Panthers in a seven game series with our top six or seven guys healthy.

You can say the same thing about a lot of teams if they lose their top player or two - also, I don't think Jaromir Jagr lost a step last season once he came to Florida, if anything, he was way better because of the talent around him and not only that but he's playing in a warm weather climate and I do think that plays a more important role in keeping him healthy than you would believe

Panthers have an elite number one defensive center(whose offensive skills are improving by the day) in Aleksander Barkov - he SHOULD be a top three for the Selke this year but knowing the media they'll go with the name brand like they do with all of the other awards

Jonathan Huberdeau is highly skilled and that top line with those two along with Jaromir Jagr is as good as it gets - Nick Bjugstad and Vincent Trocheck are terrific talents as well and they have lots of offensive depth

Defensively, Aaron Ekblad is a stud and his game is as complete as it ever will be for a 20-year old - two of arguably the most important players on this team are Erik Gudbranson and Willie Mitchell - great shut down d-men who play on the top PK and are hard to play against

I know you guys probably don't watch them very often but I watch every one of their games and I've become a fan over the last few years - that is such a really good team and it would be unwise to doubt them down the stretch

There is no way the Flyers are a better team than them, at least right now - the Panthers would absolutely shred the Flyers(like they did on Opening Night) because of their overall depth - it is not even close - Flyers have a handful of really good players(G, Jake, Simmer, Couts, Ghost, goalies) but the depth falls off so dramatically after that

 

[Cobiemonster]

This is exactly what everyone was saying about the Flyers and the Kings before they made their run to the cup. We do know this team plays well against playoff teams

I dunno, I don't think as many are that high on the Flyers like they were with the Kings, at least from the articles I read and hearsay

These teams are in different stages too - Kings were ready to win and they just needed a veteran coach to get them over the top(getting Jeff Carter helped too) - Flyers have a real good young coach but it will take more than that to get them over the top and it's not happening this year

 

[Maverick426h]

So, you're a Panthers fan too? I guess if you're a fan of every team that makes the playoffs, you can't go home unhappy...Lol

I don't follow the team closely, but more or less, I know all of this.

It's pretty damn clear that you'd expect fatigue or a drop in performance especially late in the season more from the likes of Jagr (44), Luongo (36) or Campbell (36) than say Simmonds, Mason or Ghost (or any of our top seven guys).

Yes, they have a lot of young, talented players (with no playoff experience mind you), but they also have a lot of ancient veterans that they rely heavily on. Willie Mitchel is soon to be 39 as well. Streit is our only 36+ player. In fact, he's our only 34+ player too. The Panthers have six of them.

That's not a team without flaws over there and we did beat them 1-0 after they stomped us. This was without Ghost and also the first win of Hakstol's Nhl career.

 

[Maverick426h]

I don't think we've played as well as we possibly could (or maxed out) this season either, whereas the Panthers have at least 4 or 5 guys having career years. They're basically not skipping a beat.

Voracek and Giroux are still at least slightly below where we'd expect them to be. Read, Laughton, Raffl, Umberger and Gagner have all severely underperformed. 26 goals between these 5 guys. Read alone had 24 in his 1st season and then 22 in his 3rd season. Umberger is a 5 time 20 goal scorer. Couturier only just recently got it going, then he suffered an injury.

We can do much better and that may be yet to come this season.

 

[lasgop8]

I dunno, I don't think as many are that high on the Flyers like they were with the Kings, at least from the articles I read and hearsay

These teams are in different stages too - Kings were ready to win and they just needed a veteran coach to get them over the top(getting Jeff Carter helped too) - Flyers have a real good young coach but it will take more than that to get them over the top and it's not happening this year

The deadline hasn't come yet we may very well get our own Jeff Carter so we aren't dead yet when it comes to adding players. I am not under the impression that we are definitely going to make a deep run but right now we are only a few points out of a playoff spot and I am trying to keep hope of winning this seasons cup for as long as I can. We are not dead by any means so lets try to trade for or away anyone who can help this team now and in the future.

 

[lasgop8]

NHL trade rumors: Mark Streit on the market, but might he be hard for Flyers to move?

 

[flyersfan4706]

As of right now our known rumors are:

Friedman says that teams are interested in Streit.

Seravalli claims Medvedev would return a 3rd

McKenzie said we could have had an offer of a couple of 2nds for Gudas

Friedman also said a few weeks ago there could be interest in Gagner

 

[Cobiemonster]

As of right now our known rumors are:

Friedman says that teams are interested in Streit.

Seravalli claims Medvedev would return a 3rd

McKenzie said we could have had an offer of a couple of 2nds for Gudas

Friedman also said a few weeks ago there could be interest in Gagner

If some team offers two 2nds for Radko Gudas, they need to take it and run

There have been rumors about Mark Streit in a deal for Tommy Wingels but those are exactly what they are, rumors - I don't think there is anything from legit sources regarding that

 

[flyersfan4706]

If some team offers two 2nds for Radko Gudas, they need to take it and run

There have been rumors about Mark Streit in a deal for Tommy Wingels for but those are exactly what they are, rumors - I don't think there is anything from legit sources regarding that

I love that value for Gudas but if that is what he could fetch a week from the deadline you've got to wonder what someone desperately offers at noon on the deadline. Hextall might really milk his vaue...or maybe he really wants to keep him.

Pretty sure the Wingels rumors were created to mess with people.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I love that value for Gudas but if that is what he could fetch a week from the deadline you've got to wonder what someone desperately offers at noon on the deadline. Hextall might really milk his vaue...or maybe he really wants to keep him.

Pretty sure the Wingels rumors were created to mess with people.

Yeah either he really wants to keep him or he's going to do everything he can to move him - so I think in that case it is a win win

I don't see how Tommy Wingels makes this team any better - the Flyers need to add someone much more talented to the forward group if they're doing something like that

 

[lasgop8]

Yeah either he really wants to keep him or he's going to do everything he can to move him - so I think in that case it is a win win

I don't see how Tommy Wingels makes this team any better - the Flyers need to add someone much more talented to the forward group if they're doing something like that

I don't think the Wingles deal would make us better now I think getting rid of Streits contract and save 2.5 million would be the driving force behind that deal. I think Hextall may hold out for more for Streit though.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I don't think the Wingles deal would make us better now I think getting rid of Streits contract and save 2.5 million would be the driving force behind that deal. I think Hextall may hold out for more for Streit though.

Getting rid of the contract is nice but as you said, Hexy might hold out for more in a deal - value is most important in trades, the Flyers need to keep stockpiling as many picks as possible and get the most out of each trade

They've really done a great job with managing the cap in the year or so as is so if they do more of that, then that's great, but value is the most important aspect

 

[JBM73]

I'm going to predict that the Flyers trade Gagne and Medvedev for picks as their only moves by the trade deadline.