Would you make a trade?

[lasgop8]

We could use more size. Would anyone like a player like Dwight King from the Kings? I know we have a good relationship in LA with Hextall. Do you think he might be a guy that could replace a player like VanVelde.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Drouin's value is practically impossible to understand unless you know Yzerman's urgency. Also depends on which teams believe in his potential.

 

[Maverick426h]

It seems like Tampa may be screwed here if they are having to suspend Drouin indefinitely for missing Ahl games. That pretty much shows that the kid is done playing for them and must go.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

I keep Laughton still plenty of time for him and we are seeing Sparks once in awhile. Perfect spot on 3rd line.

Drouin hard to say will shock me if he's a Seguin...I wouldn't pay.

 

[awaz]

I keep Laughton still plenty of time for him and we are seeing Sparks once in awhile. Perfect spot on 3rd line.

Drouin hard to say will shock me if he's a Seguin...I wouldn't pay.

I would possibly look at a Streit and 1st for Drouin. I don't think I'd go any more than that, but you can clear cap space, Streit isn't part of the future, and get a high quality forward prospect.

For TB, it gives them help on the blueline for another playoff run, as well as a high quality draft pick to try to replace Drouin in the prospect pool.

caveat: I have no idea if the Bolts can fit Streit in under their cap. I kind of expect they cannot.

 

[chy1127]

I keep Laughton still plenty of time for him and we are seeing Sparks once in awhile. Perfect spot on 3rd line.

Drouin hard to say will shock me if he's a Seguin...I wouldn't pay.

I keep Laughton still plenty of time for him and we are seeing Sparks once in awhile. Perfect spot on 3rd line.

Drouin hard to say will shock me if he's a Seguin...I wouldn't pay.

I don't know if Laughton will ever score enough to be a 3C.

 

[lasgop8]

I don't know if Laughton will ever score enough to be a 3C.

And he is no where near big enough to play the 4th line his whole career.

 

[EVille3]

I don't know if Laughton will ever score enough to be a 3C.

Same was said about Coots and Schenn and they are turning a corner this year...

 

[lasgop8]

Schenn 6 years in the league 24 years old
Coots 5 years in the league 23 years old

If we waited for Laughton to turn the corner after 6 years he would be 26

 

[chy1127]

Same was said about Coots and Schenn and they are turning a corner this year...

Both Schenn and Couts came into the league and showed something, especially on the defensive end for Couts.

Schenn : GP G A Pts
54 12 6 18
47 8 18 26
82 20 21 41
82 18 29 47
43 11 13 24

Couts: 77 13 14 27
46 4 11 15
82 13 26 39
82 15 22 37
38 9 13 22

Laughton: 31 2 4 6
45 4 8 12

I always thought Schenn had the upside of 25 goals/50-60 pts and that Couts could approach 20/45-50. Laughton looks like he will be a 10/20-25 guy.

 

[EVille3]

Both Schenn and Couts came into the league and showed something, especially on the defensive end for Couts.

Schenn : GP G A Pts
54 12 6 18
47 8 18 26
82 20 21 41
82 18 29 47
43 11 13 24

Couts: 77 13 14 27
46 4 11 15
82 13 26 39
82 15 22 37
38 9 13 22

Laughton: 31 2 4 6
45 4 8 12

I always thought Schenn had the upside of 25 goals/50-60 pts and that Couts could approach 20/45-50. Laughton looks like he will be a 10/20-25 guy.

I'm trying to trumpet Laughton as being the next big thing. But come on here. He is playing great two-way hockey. His speed and creativity with the puck has really shown the past 2 months. Let's not discount he is on a line with Read (underperforming year again) and Umberger (old, slow, ZERO GOALS). Put some talent around Laughton and his numbers will undoubtedly improve.

 

[Maverick426h]

It's true. Laughton has not been given anywhere near the same opportunities as have Couturier and Schenn and he's still just 21.

 

[chy1127]

I'm trying to trumpet Laughton as being the next big thing. But come on here. He is playing great two-way hockey. His speed and creativity with the puck has really shown the past 2 months. Let's not discount he is on a line with Read (underperforming year again) and Umberger (old, slow, ZERO GOALS). Put some talent around Laughton and his numbers will undoubtedly improve.

I hope I am wrong, but I think the upside is the 10 goal range.

 

[lasgop8]

I'm trying to trumpet Laughton as being the next big thing. But come on here. He is playing great two-way hockey. His speed and creativity with the puck has really shown the past 2 months. Let's not discount he is on a line with Read (underperforming year again) and Umberger (old, slow, ZERO GOALS). Put some talent around Laughton and his numbers will undoubtedly improve.

I hope you turn out to be right about Laughton (if we don't trade him) turns out to be great but in order to play great two way hockey you have to put up points which he has not been doing in his time here so that only leaves the other way which is his defense and if he was so good on defense he would be on the penalty kill which he does seldom. So great two way hockey is a little exaggerated. Yes he's only 21 but he is also injury prone and has had concussions already which is not good.

 

[lasgop8]

I'm trying to trumpet Laughton as being the next big thing. But come on here. He is playing great two-way hockey. His speed and creativity with the puck has really shown the past 2 months. Let's not discount he is on a line with Read (underperforming year again) and Umberger (old, slow, ZERO GOALS). Put some talent around Laughton and his numbers will undoubtedly improve.

Although in your defense if Umberger didn't stink so bad Laughton would've had three assists in the last two games.

 

[EVille3]

Again, I don't think Laughton is amazing. He is developing 21 year old player. If 10 goals is his upside, then I'm willing to bet he reaches that this year. Then what? He peaks at 21? Doubtful.

Injury prone is a stretch. He has played in every game this year. He played 70 last year between AHL/NHL. Yes, he has concussion, but in the NHL that encompasses a majority of players. Are G and Jake injury prone d/t their past concussions?

Once more, I do not think Laughton is world beater. However, using him as "throw-away" piece to acquire player with Drouin's attitude and actions seems foolish to me. I'd rather have the less skilled player that busts his ass night in and night out as opposed to a silver spooned brat that pouts when things don't go his way. A player like Drouin can be a cancer to a team. Why do you think Yzerman is trying so frantically to unload him? We can all agree that Yzerman is smart hockey mind. Can Drouin turn it around and have a productive career? Absolutely. I would just prefer to stray from prima donna players, especially young ones. There will be bumps in the road during a career and mental toughness is necessary to strive. The ability to look in the mirror and honestly say you have pieces of your game that need improvement and put in the work to do so is absolutely necessary. When trying to "build a team and culture" like the Flyers are, I don't see the need to add a player like Drouin at this point. He isn't portraying himself as a foundation guy and certainly isn't the last piece of the puzzle.

 

[lasgop8]

Again, I don't think Laughton is amazing. He is developing 21 year old player. If 10 goals is his upside, then I'm willing to bet he reaches that this year. Then what? He peaks at 21? Doubtful.

Injury prone is a stretch. He has played in every game this year. He played 70 last year between AHL/NHL. Yes, he has concussion, but in the NHL that encompasses a majority of players. Are G and Jake injury prone d/t their past concussions?

Once more, I do not think Laughton is world beater. However, using him as "throw-away" piece to acquire player with Drouin's attitude and actions seems foolish to me. I'd rather have the less skilled player that busts his ass night in and night out as opposed to a silver spooned brat that pouts when things don't go his way. A player like Drouin can be a cancer to a team. Why do you think Yzerman is trying so frantically to unload him? We can all agree that Yzerman is smart hockey mind. Can Drouin turn it around and have a productive career? Absolutely. I would just prefer to stray from prima donna players, especially young ones. There will be bumps in the road during a career and mental toughness is necessary to strive. The ability to look in the mirror and honestly say you have pieces of your game that need improvement and put in the work to do so is absolutely necessary. When trying to "build a team and culture" like the Flyers are, I don't see the need to add a player like Drouin at this point. He isn't portraying himself as a foundation guy and certainly isn't the last piece of the puzzle.

As I said yesterday I think the toughness that Hextall exudes and the no nonsense attitude Hakstol portrays I would think between them they could knock that me first attitude from a young Drouin and he would conform to Flyer hockey.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I would possibly look at a Streit and 1st for Drouin. I don't think I'd go any more than that, but you can clear cap space, Streit isn't part of the future, and get a high quality forward prospect.

For TB, it gives them help on the blueline for another playoff run, as well as a high quality draft pick to try to replace Drouin in the prospect pool.

caveat: I have no idea if the Bolts can fit Streit in under their cap. I kind of expect they cannot.

I like the idea of adding another potentially talented forward to a group that really needs more depth up front, but I'm not sure about giving up a 1st in order to make that happen - depending on where they finish in the standings, if that 1st rounder is high enough, they could find a forward that could step in right away or in a year

I'd love to see them get a 1st for Mark Streit if at all possible and Tampa's a good fit, but I don't like the idea of adding a first round pick in order to get it done

 

[lasgop8]

I like the idea of adding another potentially talented forward to a group that really needs more depth up front, but I'm not sure about giving up a 1st in order to make that happen - depending on where they finish in the standings, if that 1st rounder is high enough, they could find a forward that could step in right away or in a year

I'd love to see them get a 1st for Mark Streit if at all possible and Tampa's a good fit, but I don't like the idea of adding a first round pick in order to get it done

What offer would you make as Streit would not be the lone piece in the deal. Who else would you add to sweeten the pot ?

 

[Cobiemonster]

What offer would you make as Streit would not be the lone piece in the deal. Who else would you add to sweeten the pot ?

For Jonathan Drouin, I would say Mark Streit and maybe one of the defensive prospects like Robert Hagg? Honestly, I feel like if the Flyers were giving up a 1st along with Mark Streit to make this deal, it would make the Flyers seem like the buyer and they aren't in a position to do that - the Flyers need to be all over teams who are desperate to win now(ala the deal they made with the Kings) - teams like Nashville, St. Louis, Minnesota, Anaheim, etc that are probably going to be aggressive in the next month or so to make deals because they still have areas on their teams that they have to address

I think another under the radar team for Mark Streit's services could be the Islanders - yes it's a division rival but their blueline has been stricken with injuries and they probably need some help - they're not moving Travis Hamonic until the offseason unless they get a great deal now so if they get a player like Mark Streit for the stretch run, they can cover theirselves for at least another year if they don't eventually get a great return for Travis Hamonic - and Mark Streit played with them before so it would be a natural transition