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Yeah I don't see it - I think there could be better offers out there anyway - Beaulieu's a good d-man and McCarron is a good prospect but the Flyers need Simmer right now and I don't think the Flyers make trades involving any significant players at this point

Also, with the Habs sliding right now, it makes sense that rumors circulate - but that doesn't mean they're legitimate

If we ever are shopping Simmonds 29 teams will line up for the guy. Great contract and teams always want scoring and toughness at the deadline. He could go for a premium to any team. I want to keep him and try to make the playoffs, but if someone else came along I'd listen. Unfortunately I am not really overwhelmed by any realistic Montreal package.
 

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If we ever are shopping Simmonds 29 teams will line up for the guy. Great contract and teams always want scoring and toughness at the deadline. He could go for a premium to any team. I want to keep him and try to make the playoffs, but if someone else came along I'd listen. Unfortunately I am not really overwhelmed by any realistic Montreal package.

For sure, there are better offers out there - I bet some team like the Ducks who are in a weak division and are desperate to make a deal, could be a match for them because the Flyers could take advantage of them

However I think as it currently stands, the Flyers need him more than any other team would
 

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There's another thread on here about Ryan Johansen but I just thought of him now when talking about Wayne Simmonds

If they were to move Simmer, that would be an attractive piece for a team like Columbus - if it's the right deal, I would think about that - but that's just fodder for now
 

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To me, Simmonds is a guy we can keep and win with for a lot more years. There is absolutely no questioning his heart, effort or consistency. He's basically good for 28-29 goals every single year and he's one of those guys that will step up for each and every teammate always. Guys like him are the glue that holds this team together.

While he is only on pace for about 22 goals this season, I still expect him to get back to his average or surpass it, especially with Voracek dishing him the puck. This is a young 27 year old. I think there's a lot more tread on his tires. While his value may be high, we're a team that needs more scoring wingers, not to unload them.
 

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Agree with everyone on here. Simmonds is probably behind only giroux in active players that would be the most surprising trade.
 

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While I would not shop Simmonds I would listen to offers. That said, never forget that Hextall was part of the management group that traded Simmonds away from LA. That may mean nothing because it is a different city and a different time, but it may mean that he would be more inclined to pull the trigger on a deal. Same goes for B Schenn.
 

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Personally, I think Simminds is a primary reason the team is playing better. About 10 games ago he got really pissed off and started playing with an edge. He has taken 2 instigator penalties for standing up for his teammates. Playing better has coincided with his leadership.
 

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Idk if trading away Neuvirth or sending down Ghost would be the right message to send to the fans. While yes, we're not a true Cup contending team, we've always made making the playoffs a huge priority.

Without either of these guys, that becomes a lot more difficult.

Besides, we've seen #8 seeds win the Cup anyway. You never know what could happen if Mason gets hot and our defense improves substantially with both Streit and Ghost.

Honestly, there's so much parity in the league right now that along with those improvements, one big move at the deadline could make us real contenders.
 
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Neuvirth's trade value has never been higher. If the Flyers can get a high draft pick, a backup goalie, and get someone to take Vinny Lecavalier's albatross of a contract off their hands, this deal would make sense.
Read more at Flyers should trade Neuvirth if right deal comes along

A backup goalie that's a FA next year and Vinny's contract and a high draft pick and a backup. I would have said done deal at just taking Vinny with him.
 

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That reads well, but I don't think anyone would seriously take Lecavalier from us just to get Neuvirth AND toss in a pick too.

There would have to be a lot of salary coming back our way.
 

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Neuvirth's trade value has never been higher. If the Flyers can get a high draft pick, a backup goalie, and get someone to take Vinny Lecavalier's albatross of a contract off their hands, this deal would make sense.
Read more at Flyers should trade Neuvirth if right deal comes along

A backup goalie that's a FA next year and Vinny's contract and a high draft pick and a backup. I would have said done deal at just taking Vinny with him.

Why the hell would some team give up a high draft pick AND take that contract? The Flyers would have to give up a high draft pick, not the other team

The writers in Philly are a pathetic excuse
 

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I agree with Cobie. Trading Neuvirth to trade Vinny thinking that the net return would be a high draft pick? That is cloud coo coo thinking.

Trading Neuvirth (if they drop further out) for a decent pick, that I can see. Thinking that you can package Neuvirth with Vinny to get said pick is just not going to happen. You most likely would need to package Vinny with a pick just to get a conditional pick or a decent roll of stick tape.
 

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Who else thinks, and this is just another sleepless night with the inlaws in the house....

But who else thinks that the Flyers are now going to try to showcase Streit leading up to the deadline? They have both MDZ and Ghost. Both are younger and have more speed to their game (at this point). having all three is a luxury that the Flyers really cannot afford. I could see a playoff bound team taking Streit for a couple conditional picks.
 

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And then be stuck with a garbage backup

That's a problem because there are several scenarios in which this team becomes a Cup contender this year or next, right? That garbage back-up will fit right in with the garbage that is already 1/2 of the current roster. If Neuvirth plays well this year and next, they won't be able to afford him as a back-up afterwards. So, why not trade him while his value is high if it helps position the team to be a TRUE Cup contender in a few years? As someone who steadfastly continues to support the Hartnell-Umberger trade for the same reasons, I'm confused by your stance on this one.
 
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That's a problem because there are several scenarios in which this team becomes a Cup contender this year or next, right? That garbage back-up will fit right in with the garbage that is already 1/2 of the current roster. If Neuvirth plays well this year and next, they won't be able to afford him as a back-up afterwards. So, why not trade him while his value is high if it helps position the team to be a TRUE Cup contender in a few years? As someone who steadfastly continues to support the Hartnell-Umberger trade for the same reasons, I'm confused by your stance on this one.

They would be lucky if a team gave up a lot for a Neuvy - the goalie market doesn't work that way at this point in time
 

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They would be lucky if a team gave up a lot for a Neuvy - the goalie market doesn't work that way at this point in time

Is it that the goalie market is soft or that almost every team thinks it still has a shot at the playoffs at this point in the season and is reluctant to trade NHL assets as a result? Teams paid significant prices for back-up goalies last off-season, so perhaps that might be the right time if the market is truly soft through the trade deadline and Neuvirth's play doesn't drop off a cliff.
 

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Is it that the goalie market is soft or that almost every team thinks it still has a shot at the playoffs at this point in the season and is reluctant to trade NHL assets as a result? Teams paid significant prices for back-up goalies last off-season, so perhaps that might be the right time if the market is truly soft through the trade deadline and Neuvirth's play doesn't drop off a cliff.

There aren't many teams that have a glaring need for a goaltender - a lot of teams are in the playoff race but there's not much point in giving up a lot of assets for a goalie

Devan Dubnyk was worth a third rounder last season and with his performance, you'd think he's worth way more than that

Teams are going to be more interested in adding offense because more teams are lacking offense than goaltending
 

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Drouin requested a trade. Get this man in our top 6
 
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