Why the Rams NEED to draft Watkins

[SJ76]

Maybe it was Goodell and Bellicheck 69'ing?

 

[JDM]

Many? You've named a small handful of sore losers.


Why keep tapes that had no value?

 

[SJ76]

Gee... Destroy tapes. End of story. Everything is an assumption.

No more evidence!


Where's the dam light bulb??

 

[zeke2829]

Show me the link. Should be easy enough if you're not making it up.

Here you go tough guy.....

Boss/SJ/Ozzark

you gotta read this>>>>>>> http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/080514/nfl_FloorStatement.pdf

 

[SJ76]

Why keep tapes that had no value?

HAHA!!! So you are saying you know for a fact that those tapes had no value now?

Again what's the big hurry to destroy those tapes during an investigation? BWAHAHA!! That's funny.

Denial is so common in today's society.

 

[SJ76]

HAHA!!

The Patriots engaged in extensive videotaping of opponents’
offensive and defensive signals starting on August 20, 2000 and extending to
September 9, 2007, when they were publicly caught videotaping the Jets.

Geee.. So that's 2000, before the super bowl on up to 2007. So that's 2007 minus 2000.... I got it!!! 7 years until they got busted!! Wow. I'm so good at math it's redonk.

So the NFL fines the Pats in 2007, destroy tapes involved in an investigation.

cover up maybe? Just maybe? HAHA

 

[JDM]

Here you go tough guy.....

Boss/SJ/Ozzark

you gotta read this>>>>>>> http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/080514/nfl_FloorStatement.pdf

None of that involves the NFL stating they destroyed any tapes from any Super Bowl.

 

[JDM]

HAHA!!! So you are saying you know for a fact that those tapes had no value now?

Again what's the big hurry to destroy those tapes during an investigation? BWAHAHA!! That's funny.

Denial is so common in today's society.

No, I am stating that the destruction of tapes is not evidence of anything. If their story is true, there was no reason to keep them.

 

[JDM]

Also, of course they filmed signals going back to 2000. IT WAS ENTIRELY LEGAL. the rule in question did not come into play until 2006.

 

[SJ76]

The NFL confiscated the Jets tape on September 9, 2007; imposed
the penalties on September 13, 2007; on September 17, 2007, viewed the tapes for the
first time; and then announced they had destroyed those tapes on September 20, 2007.
Commissioner Goodell made his judgment on the punishment to be levied before
he had viewed the key evidence.

So let me try my math again!!! LOL Confiscated tapes on the 9th, penalty came on the 13th!! Thats 4-5 days! Wow I'm rolling now. And what a quick decision that was and the punishment was levied before Goodell even viewed the evidence? Maybe let's hurry up and bury this??

 

[JDM]

If the tapes had disputed the original claims the punishment would have been increased. The NFL made that pretty clear.

 

[SJ76]

If their story is true, there was no reason to keep
them.

Bingo. IF their story is true!! And I would believe their story if it wasn't for the testimonies of many players and the fact that they were hiding something on those tapes.

Why not just show the tapes to the media and be done with it? Why hide anything IF THEIR STORY IS TRUE?

 

[JDM]

Bingo. IF their story is true!! And I would believe their story if it wasn't for the testimonies of many players and the fact that they were hiding something on those tapes.

Why not just show the tapes to the media and be done with it? Why hide anything IF THEIR STORY IS TRUE?

There is zero chance any NFL investigation or materials is provided to the media. It has not and will never happen. Period.

What "testimony" was anything remotely tangible?

 

[SJ76]

The NFL made that pretty clear.

There is nothing clear about this story other than the players and people's stories involved. The NFL can do whatever they want and say whatever they want... But by destroying those tapes, it baffled MANY people on both sides.

If they have nothing to hide, the NFL should have shared that info after AN INVESTIGATION. LOL That was one of the key pieces of evidence and they destroyed it. C'mon man!

It's obvious. Pull your head out the sand.

 

[SJ76]

What "testimony" was anything remotely tangible?

Players on the Steelers and Rams. Future Hall of famers that's who.

 

[zeke2829]

Commissioner Goodell made his judgment on the punishment to be levied before
he had viewed the key evidence.​

Sounds like the comish was trying as quick as possible to sweep this under the carpet!

 

[JDM]

It has never and will never happen. The NFL will not ever, in the entirety of its existence, share the evidence it has from any internal investigation. It will not happen. Holding them to some absurd standard that will never be met is stupidity.

 

[JDM]

Players on the Steelers and Rams. Future Hall of famers that's who.

"They knew our plays" isn't tangible. They are supposed to know your plays.

 

[SJ76]

Obviously you are in serious denial and my time is worth more to me than to try to help someone in denial.

The NFL is a billion $ business.. Bottom line the Patriots got caught cheating (finally) and had to pay up. But alot was swept under the rug. It's pretty obvious.

You never even answered my question as to who has been fined since then over the amount of $100,000?

 

[ozarkram]

JDM you put up a valiant defense. But in the end your team is and always will be tainted. Is it right. I am not the judge. That will be history. Your team your coach ,and even your players will all ways have the famous asterisk by them in the minds of many. You can debate right and wrong all you want, wont change a thing. The very fact we are debating this now all these years later as is the media to this day means it will never go away.