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SJ76

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Love this quote. It's about the exact same thing Matrz said after the Super Bowl loss to the Patriots.

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"You would hope that, during their run, when they were winning all their (three) Super Bowls, all that stuff wasn't going on," Ward said. "You look back in the past, and we played them in the championship games, and you kind of wonder. It seemed like they were a step ahead of us at all times, but those games are behind us. There's nothing we can do about it. You just look forward and see what the commissioner (Roger Goodell) will do."
 

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Is holding cheating?


Regardless, none of it applies in any way to their Super Bowls, as this happened in 07 and the rule in question was changed in 06, through a league memo.
Sure thats why they throw the flag. And your right our opinions will not change a thing its history now. :suds:
 

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Filming signals was not against the rules during that season, and even if it
was, hand recording them all can never be made illegal, and neither can stealing
signals. It is part of the game.

So then why the fine for $500,000 and $250,000 as well? Why did it finally come in 2007, after years of cheating? LOL

It's a simple question and a simple answer. The NFL fines the Patriots "based on the Jets game" ?? LOL

Not at all. They weren't going to admit their "champeen" was a cheat and become the WWF. So they max out a fine and say it was for the Jets game.

Pretty simple but I know it must be hard for you Pats fans.

However Karma has a way of getting you back.

Thank you David Tyree! :nod:
 

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So every team in the league is cheaters.
 

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So then why the fine for $500,000 and $250,000 as well? Why did it finally come in 2007, after years of cheating? LOL

It's a simple question and a simple answer. The NFL fines the Patriots "based on the Jets game" ?? LOL

Not at all. They weren't going to admit their "champeen" was a cheat and become the WWF. So they max out a fine and say it was for the Jets game.

Pretty simply but I know it must be hard for you Pats fans.

However Karma has a way of getting you back.

Thank you David Tyree! :nod:



Location. The location was illegal. The fine was entirely for appearances sake.
 

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$500,000 and $250,000 and a 1st rounder...

For illegal location. BWAHAHAHA.


If it helps you sleep better, it's all good man.
 

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Because the New York media grandstanded off of it, and the fines were the easiest way to make it go away.

IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL IN ANY WAY PRIOR TO 2006. Jimmy Johnson among a wide host of others stated that it was entirely commonplace. There was not a team in the league that did not video tape signals.
 

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So every team in the league is cheaters.
That was easy why did I know you would go there. lol In a sense yes but in this case holding is not necessarily premeditated. It happens in the heat of battle. You are down too splitting hairs now my friend.:suds:
 

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That was easy why did I know you would go there. lol In a sense yes but in this case holding is not necessarily premeditated. It happens in the heat of battle. You are down too splitting hairs now my friend.:suds:

No, I am saying that filming from an illegal location in 2007 that was not made illegal in 2006 is foolish grounds to call a Super Bowl in 2002 illegitimately won.
 

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"Former Rams quarterback Kurt Warner, currently with the Arizona Cardinals, told Fish that if the league has heard those claims, he is surprised it has not spoken to former Patriots video department employee Matt Walsh. He said if Walsh or any other source has information, it should be investigated.

Walsh, a former Patriots video assistant, has suggested to ESPN.com that he has information that could have exposed the Patriots prior to the NFL catching New England taping the New York Jets' defensive signals during the 2007 season opener. The Patriots were fined $750,000 and lost a first-round draft pick as punishment."



Naaahh Get out! You don't say...?
 

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Where did Martz say that is was Bullshit? Please tell me. He said, "He hoped it wasn't true." Only to later say he walked off that field thinking that the Pats had all the Rams' plays.


People/players all across the league from multiple teams know what was going on. LOL


$750,000 + a 1st rounder for just the Jets game.. Yeah right.

You're denial is quite amusing.
 

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They were allowed to have all your plays. Filming signals was never illegal.
 

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Where did Martz say that is was Bullshit? Please tell me. He said, "He hoped it wasn't true." Only to later say he walked off that field thinking that the Pats had all the Rams' plays.


People/players all across the league from multiple teams know what was going on. LOL


$750,000 + a 1st rounder for just the Jets game.. Yeah right.

You're denial is quite amusing.
SJ this guy is a spin doctor. He changes his tune to meet the moment. Might as well bang your head against the wall.:yahoo:
 

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It's just a foolish statement. Disrespectful and insulting. If he was on our sidelines in Patriots gear, we would have spotted him," said Martz, now the 49ers' offensive coordinator. "It was more than a walkthrough. It was a regular practice. We did a lot of things."

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"Our defense shut them down," Martz said. "They must have taped the wrong signals. Taped the wrong guy. They did nothing on offense."
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We self-destructed," Martz said.
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"Did it actually overtly make an effort to cheat? I don't think they did."

Mike Martz still in a Super stupor - NY Daily News
 

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I am really glad this guy is a Patriots fan and not a Rams fan. I don't know very many Patriots fans, but I hope this JDM isn't representative of the majority. Judging from the amount of posts he has since only April 2013.....less than a year, it also tells me he must have little else in his life and plenty of time to spin his delusions on sites like this. I believe you're right Ozark, he's just having fun. Nobody could honestly believe the crap he's spewing.
 

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It's not crap. It's reality. If you think the patriots cheated in that Super Bowl, you are retarded. The only evidence supporting it was strongly discredited by your own coach.
 

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It's not crap. It's reality. If you think the patriots cheated in that Super Bowl, you are retarded. The only evidence supporting it was strongly discredited by your own coach.
Your a prince JDM. And I only rode the short bus for a few years I am all better now. Or at least thats what they tell me.
 

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Wow, cut me to the quick. Can't argue with logic like that JDM. Let's not let the facts get in the way of a good delusion huh.
 
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