Why did 11 - 1 Alabama get picked over 12 - 1 Wisconsin?

[kburjr]

You’ve been playing football at Wisconsin for 128 years — it hasn’t happened and as much as it sucks to hear, it will never happen. You don’t get the type of recruits to win a NC.

Recruits don't win championships. Players do. Recruits are raw material. Hell, we do our best work with walk-ons

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

How is this a difficult concept for anyone who is American?

Sure he had a level playing field and equal opportunity at MSU - that's why he was able to beat #1 Ohio St multiple times.

Does that mean all programs are equal? Obviously not, they just have equal opportunity.

Kind of like we both have equal opportunity and equal rights. But I'm obviously better looking and smarter than you are.

So the best coach in college football with a level playing field and equal opportunity was able to win more than 7 games once in 5 years and couldn’t win a single bowl game at MSU? How is that possible?

Or are you saying what makes Saban great is the SEC?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Recruits don't win championships. Players do. Recruits are raw material. Hell, we do our best work with walk-ons

And you have 0 national titles in 128 years. CFB isn’t all about who can collect the most talent. Unfortunately for Wisconsin — they will never get the type of recruits to win a NC.

 

[4down20]

So the best coach in college football with a level playing field and equal opportunity was able to win more than 7 games once in 5 years and couldn’t win a single bowl game at MSU? How is that possible?

Or are you saying what makes Saban great is the SEC?

So back to pretending Michigan and Michigan St are equal programs.

It's fun watching you degrade Michigan.

 

[kburjr]

You’ve been playing football at Wisconsin for 128 years — it hasn’t happened and as much as it sucks to hear, it will never happen. You don’t get the type of recruits to win a NC.

Keep bitchin about teams winning when you ain't.

You sound like someone who hates the rich. "They have all the money. Take it from them and give it to me." Fuck dude, I want to be like Alabama and the rich.

 

[4down20]

And you have 0 national titles in 128 years. CFB isn’t all about who can collect the most talent. Unfortunately for Wisconsin — they will never get the type of recruits to win a NC.

Michigan hasn't won a legit NC since the 40's and the majority of your claimed National Championships are bullshit.

All the while you are considered a blue blood.

So really, I don't see where Michigan can really talk shit to anyone.

 

[kburjr]

And you have 0 national titles in 128 years. CFB isn’t all about who can collect the most talent. Unfortunately for Wisconsin — they will never get the type of recruits to win a NC.

Look, maybe we won't win a natty, but you know what? Every game is a natty. You play hard, you do it the right way(Saban-talk) and if you lose, you work harder the next time. When and if we get in a position to win a championship, we will compete, we will work and be proud, win or lose.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Michigan hasn't won a legit NC since the 40's and the majority of your claimed National Championships are bullshit.

All the while you are considered a blue blood.

So really, I don't see where Michigan can really talk shit to anyone.

Yeah — we didn’t win one in 97. Don’t be upset because you just agreed with me Finally that what makes Saban great is the SEC footprint.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Keep bitchin about teams winning when you ain't.

You sound like someone who hates the rich. "They have all the money. Take it from them and give it to me." Fuck dude, I want to be like Alabama and the rich.

You realize this conversation has nothing to do with a team, right?

 

[4down20]

Yeah — we didn’t win one in 97. Don’t be upset because you just agreed with me Finally that what makes Saban great is the SEC footprint.

Everyone knows Nebraska was the real 97 champion.

Do you think MSU and Michigan are equal programs?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

So back to pretending Michigan and Michigan St are equal programs.

It's fun watching you degrade Michigan.

I want to make sure I have this quoted. THANK YOU for finally agreeing with me that what makes Saban great is the school he is at, not his ‘coaching’. His recruiting — I agree 100%. He is an all time great. What made him a great coach though is.........the SEC.

 

[4down20]

I want to make sure I have this quoted. THANK YOU for finally agreeing with me that what makes Saban great is the school he is at, not his ‘coaching’. His recruiting — I agree 100%. He is an all time great. What made him a great coach though is.........the SEC.

I think you've spun yourself dizzy.

 

[7Samurai13]

So they aren’t? Are you saying they aren’t on a level playing field and don’t have the same opportunities?

Are you calling Saban a liar again?

They aren’t on a level playing field but they do have equal opportunities. Harbaugh is just a failure even with all of the advantages he has.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Everyone knows Nebraska was the real 97 champion.

Do you think MSU and Michigan are equal programs?

Keep grasping at straws.

Are you trying to tell me UM has an advantage over MSU? I thought CFB was a level playing field where everyone had equal opportunities?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

They aren’t on a level playing field but they do have equal opportunities. Harbaugh is just a failure even with all of the advantages he has.

What makes it an unlevel playing field? Going to be fun to have a MSU fan admit this

 

[7Samurai13]

What makes it an unlevel playing field? Going to be fun to have a MSU fan admit this

Michigan is a bigger name and will have a better chance at getting better players. I have never denied this. It’s the only reason why your program who consistently shits the bed gets selected over other teams. Despite this fact of getting big name players, he can’t develop a quarterback, can’t develop an offensive line, and chokes away having the most talented team.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I think you've spun yourself dizzy.

Not at all — you stated repeatedly on here how CFB is a level playing field where everyone has equal opportunities. When I ask why Saban wasn’t a great coach at MSU that won ANYTHING — you want to talk how UM and MSU aren’t equal programs. So which one is the truth?

Either some schools have advantages over others or they are on a level playing field and have equal opportunity?

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Rolling Class rankings for the last 12 title winners in the expanded BCS/Playoff era

CLEMSON (15, 16, 9, 11)
ALABAMA (1, 1, 1, 1)
OHIO STATE (18, 6, 5, 2)
FLORIDA STATE (11, 8, 2, 4)
ALABAMA (3, 3, 4, 1)
ALABAMA (12, 3, 3, 4)
AUBURN (11, 9, 21, 23)
ALABAMA (16, 13, 12, 3)
FLORIDA (5, 12, 2, 1)
LSU (3, 4, 14, 8)
TEXAS (1, 8, 9, 13)
USC (20, 8, 2, 2)

Talent does win national titles.

Every single title team had at least ONE TOP TEN CLASS.
10 of the last 12 title teams had at least ONE TOP FIVE CLASSES.
8 of the last 12 title teams had at least TWO TOP FIVE CLASSES.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Michigan is a bigger name and will have a better chance at getting better players. I have never denied this. It’s the only reason why your program who consistently shits the bed gets selected over other teams. Despite this fact of getting big name players, he can’t develop a quarterback, can’t develop an offensive line, and chokes away having the most talented team.

Don’t forget the superior education provided too

 

[4down20]

Keep grasping at straws.

Are you trying to tell me UM has an advantage over MSU? I thought CFB was a level playing field where everyone had equal opportunities?

Once again - how the fuck is the concept of equal opportunity foreign to someone who is an American?

Are you really this ignorant?