Why Are We Not Trying To Trade RG3

[countryroads316]

Makes no sense if he is not going to be here next year and don't give me that crap about teams will just wait until we cut him well whoever trades for him owns his rights!!!!

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Are you serious with this?

What team is going to trade for him with his 16 million option for injury clause.

His current observable performance and track record does not trump that price tag.

 

[countryroads316]

Are you serious with this?

What team is going to trade for him with his 16 million option for injury clause.

His current observable performance and track record does not trump that price tag.

a new contract would fix that

 

[Sharkinva]

Makes no sense if he is not going to be here next year and don't give me that crap about teams will just wait until we cut him well whoever trades for him owns his rights!!!!

Because its not worth risking $16.2 million of your cap space for a guy who cant take a snap. And the only teams that might be tempted are in our division. Dont rule it out of the realm of possibility that we actually retain him for next year as well. We will likely carry around $4-6 million into next year from this years surplus. So we would have $11-$13 million in cap space next year even WITH him on roster. The only real reasons to cut him are

1. We need the cap space.. which we actually might not.
2. He is a distraction.

Its simply not worth trading him to Dallas or Philly which would be the two most likely spots, for a 7th round pick, which is all we would get.

Hold him, hang onto his rights, and see if we can line something up next off season. If not, then release him and let the chips fall where they might.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

a new contract would fix that

Teams don't do sign and trades much in the NFL.

Picking up that option killed any trade possibilities for a bench player with a $14 mil cap hit in '16.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

a new contract would fix that

Easier said than done. First of all RG3 has to agree to the new contract. If this were you would you automatically just throw way perhaps as much as $10 million? Also - the NFLPA might also exert pressure on this one making this ever tougher.

 

[skinsdad62]

Makes no sense if he is not going to be here next year and don't give me that crap about teams will just wait until we cut him well whoever trades for him owns his rights!!!!

you need to think this through more

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW Countryroads. I though that you stated that West Virginia is so much better

you need to think this through more

It is more likely that RG3 gets traded in the next few weeks than that actually happening!

 

[countryroads316]

BTW Countryroads. I though that you stated that West Virginia is so much better


It is more likely that RG3 gets traded in the next few weeks than that actually happening!

They are can't wait for the basketball season to start they would give Maryland another beatdown if matched up

 

[Stymietee]

Makes no sense if he is not going to be here next year and don't give me that crap about teams will just wait until we cut him well whoever trades for him owns his rights!!!!

I've always maintained the idea that involves not only his continued wearing of the burgundy and gold, but as time goes on he will prove to have been the better choice between Luck and himself. It would be absolutely foolish for this team to even entertain the idea of parting ways with him. Of course this is DC, so..........

 

[Sharkinva]

I've always maintained the idea that involves not only his continued wearing of the burgundy and gold, but as time goes on he will prove to have been the better choice between Luck and himself. It would be absolutely foolish for this team to even entertain the idea of parting ways with him. Of course this is DC, so..........

They shouldnt trade him unless the Browns offer a 7th.. in which case its a done deal.

Otherwise they should just let him sit and watch as the 3rd stringer for the rest of this seasons as well as 2016.

And he will NEVER prove to have been a better choice than Luck, Wilson or Tannehill for that matter

 

[Stymietee]

They shouldnt trade him unless the Browns offer a 7th.. in which case its a done deal.

Otherwise they should just let him sit and watch as the 3rd stringer for the rest of this seasons as well as 2016.

Big mistake trading this guy, he's still the future of this team or if that mistake is made, the future of whichever team gets him. In fact I'm almost convinced the if anyone gets traded it will be KC because right now it appears that there's a chance to get a better return in a trade involving him.

 

[Sharkinva]

Big mistake trading this guy, he's still the future of this team or if that mistake is made, the future of whichever team gets him. In fact I'm almost convinced the if anyone gets traded it will be KC because right now it appears that there's a chance to get a better return in a trade involving him.

If RG3 is the future of this team.. this team is Doomed. The only return they will get from all those picks is MAYBE a 4th string special teams player IF they trade him. And where ever he ends up, he will just destroy another franchise. Its what he does.

 

[Stymietee]

If RG3 is the future of this team.. this team is Doomed. The only return they will get from all those picks is MAYBE a 4th string special teams player IF they trade him. And where ever he ends up, he will just destroy another franchise. Its what he does.

We will see......

 

[Sharkinva]

We will see......

And Im going to call a spade a spade... if he looked more like this



Than this....
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Half the faithful in DC would have bailed on his ass already... you included.

 

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And Im going to call a spade a spade... if he looked more like this

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Than this....
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Half the faithful in DC would have bailed on his ass already... you included.

Not true in either case from my perspective. However if what you say was true (how he looked) we would have seen more reasons why things were not going right like the wind.

 

[Sharkinva]

Not true in either case from my perspective. However if what you say was true (how he looked) we would have seen more reasons why things were not going right like the wind.

See thats the ting. IM not saying or hinting that he failed because he is black.

I am simply stating that a HUGE part of the reason people in the DC market STILL think he is or should be anything more than rotting on our bench is because he is black. IF he were white, and sucked as bad as he has over the past two seasons, MOST Redskins fans would have been calling for his head a year ago. SO like i said, most of his die hard fans at this point are not looking at whats best for the team, but more so whats best for the player... and I would wager MOST of those fans are looking at this through dark tinted glasses.

 

[Stymietee]

See thats the ting. IM not saying or hinting that he failed because he is black.

I am simply stating that a HUGE part of the reason people in the DC market STILL think he is or should be anything more than rotting on our bench is because he is black. IF he were white, and sucked as bad as he has over the past two seasons, MOST Redskins fans would have been calling for his head a year ago. SO like i said, most of his die hard fans at this point are not looking at whats best for the team, but more so whats best for the player... and I would wager MOST of those fans are looking at this through dark tinted glasses.

Oh I do agree with what you've said about most fans as true, but in your last post you said "including you" (meaning me). You know my position and it has not changed from the very first time that I posted it. Black or white, if the guy was as raw and unprepared as Griffin was, and thrown into a sink or swim situation on an extremely poor team as this one was, I would still say that he was mismanaged. Mismanaged. ......MISMANAGED! !!!!

 

[Sharkinva]

Oh I do agree that what you've said about most fans is true, but in your last post you said "including you" (meaning me). You know my position and it has not changed from the very first time that I posted it. Black or white, if the guy was as raw and unprepared as Griffin was, and thrown into a sink or swim situation on an extremely poor team as this one was, I would still say that he was mismanaged. Mismanaged. ......MISMANAGED! !!!!

He MIGHT have been mismanaged year one, but we wasted years two and three catering to him. And i seriously cant think of any reason a fan of the team would be calling him our best option at this point besides OTHER than football reasons.

 

[Stymietee]

He MIGHT have been mismanaged year one, but we wasted years two and three catering to him. And i seriously cant think of any reason a fan of the team would be calling him our best option at this point besides OTHER than football reasons.

That's the beautiful thing about forums like this, everyone has an opinion and are limited to who they are and how they reason based on everything that has influenced them prior to posting. I never said "at this point" (his being the best option) I did say future though. All football related reasons. (Don't ask, I don't want to get into all of those reasons at this point....just know that time, like it always does, verifies)