Who Would You Rather Have Backing Up Big Ben?

[jwolt92]

well since i cant back up my mouth either.....

Jimmy Garoppolo
69.1% completion percentage 5th best in the nfl
27 TD's tied for 5th best in the NFL
13 Int's
36 sacks taken 14th most
102 QB rating 7th best
58.8 QBR 12th best

Some advanced stats.
Completed air yards- 5.4-28th
Intended air yards-6.5 3rd worst of any qb all season
Average Air Yards Differential-1.1 lowest in the NFL
Aggressiveness rating 15.3%-25th
Air Yards to the sticks -2.5 - 2nd lowest in the NFL
29th in deep ball attempts also #1 in deep ball completions....
4th best support cast efficiency
27th in pass attempt distance
22nd in money throws
#7 in interceptable passes
#7 in danger plays
3rd most YAC in the NFL Over 50% of his yards...
15 of his 27 touchdowns in 4 games....

which means he averaged 1 per game the other 12
6 games with 200 or less passing yards.
10 games with 253 or less passing yards

There are some stats that tell a better story. besides the box score

Could you throw some advanced stats up there for Jameis? Not sure where to get those but I like those

 

[SteelersPride]

Could you throw some advanced stats up there for Jameis? Not sure where to get those but I like those

oh i very well could, but why bother......lol no i can later if i remember

playerprofiler.com/nfl/ has some free stuff

profootballreference has an advanced passing section too

 

[SteelersPride]

Why doesn't this show up in the Steelers forum list anymore. @jwolt92 any specific advanced stats u want?

 

[jwolt92]

Why doesn't this show up in the Steelers forum list anymore. @jwolt92 any specific advanced stats u want?

Just some of the same one you did for Jimmy G. I found some from NFL's Next Gen Stats and then profootball reference

 

[SteelersPride]

Just some of the same one you did for Jimmy G. I found some from NFL's Next Gen Stats and then profootball reference

ok if i dont post some later re-tag me

 

[DJ Fieri]

Ben won't last all season......they should have made a run at Cam.....but he apparently is content waiting till a stater gets hurt before signing so he can come in and start right away.

 

[SteelersPride]

Ben won't last all season......they should have made a run at Cam.....but he apparently is content waiting till a stater gets hurt before signing so he can come in and start right away.

yeah, lets bring in cam, who is a total mismatch for our system.....great call

 

[jwolt92]

yeah, lets bring in cam, who is a total mismatch for our system.....great call

Jameis and Dalton are both better options than Cam, but I did hear some stuff about Cam's shoulder not being the problem last year, more so his plant foot for throws to the left.

 

[SteelersPride]

Jameis and Dalton are both better options than Cam, but I did hear some stuff about Cam's shoulder not being the problem last year, more so his plant foot for throws to the left.

right..........i agree. im just saying its been beat up, and hes not a great thrower as is

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Let's discuss!

Terry...late to the party...looking at your list now.

Cam...best available.

If all were available...Winston.

 

[thedddd]

They are too cheap to pay a backup. Oh wait wrong thread....

Seriously I think it was mentioned but honestly they failed at getting a replacement to dump Duck. No way Rudolph is being cut and Lynch won't be on the team.

Barely warm bodies like Flacco/Moore would be good for this team because if used in short spurts can help.

Anyway, as it looks now, if Ben is hurt the Steelers are f*cked again.

Lastly a HUGE NO to Cam. He can't throw or run anymore and should just transition his life to whatever he calls that fashion.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Barely warm bodies like Flacco/Moore would be good for this team because if used in short spurts can help.

Anyway, as it looks now, if Ben is hurt the Steelers are f*cked again.

Lastly a HUGE NO to Cam. He can't throw or run anymore and should just transition his life to whatever he calls that fashion.

I'm with you 100% on this in bold.

 

[Superbelt]

Absolutely, it's Ben or die. He needs to stay healthy.

I'm way way way lower on Red Rocket then others here. I saw enough of him to know hes a pretender that stuck so long with the Bengals because they are a trash team themselves. And Cam is an absolute non-starter. Other than Winston, who is a dice roll at best himself, there just weren't options out there.

I'm hoping Lynch or Barrett can make a jump on the roster over Moron. But even there I wouldn't count on them to actually start any games.


/edit. That was an unintentional autocorrect, but I'm leaving it. The computer knows, too.

 

[thedddd]

Absolutely, it's Ben or die. He needs to stay healthy.

I'm way way way lower on Red Rocket then others here. I saw enough of him to know hes a pretender that stuck so long with the Bengals because they are a trash team themselves. And Cam is an absolute non-starter. Other than Winston, who is a dice roll at best himself, there just weren't options out there.

I'm hoping Lynch or Barrett can make a jump on the roster over Moron. But even there I wouldn't count on them to actually start any games.


/edit. That was an unintentional autocorrect, but I'm leaving it. The computer knows, too.

LOL...and it fit perfectly.

I totally forgot they signed JT Barrett with that said the four they have on the roster are all crap shoots.
They would be better off teaching Ben to throw left handed.

 

[Superbelt]

LOL...and it fit perfectly.

I totally forgot they signed JT Barrett with that said the four they have on the roster are all crap shoots.
They would be better off teaching Ben to throw left handed.

Or putting Samuels as QB and playing the Wishbone.

 

[SteelersPride]

Oh so you're the kind of person who thinks the QB is solely responsible for wins and losses?

Are you also ignoring the fact that Jameis couldn't see for years?

To answer your first question, you're the one who disregarded his college achievements by saying he "isn't a winner."

Have you considered offensive line play? Defense? How often did Jameis have to play from behind because of a bad defense? I'm not saying he's the GOAT and should be starting over everybody, but to dismiss a young QB with a spectacular arm is just asinine because he's "not a winner"

how come when i gave the stats, in a timely manner, no reply?

 

[Superbelt]

Also, if we had the Ginger, Mrs. Chaney would be slurping his balls for us like she's doing with the Cowboy now.

We don't need that.

 

[jwolt92]

how come when i gave the stats, in a timely manner, no reply?

I replied??

 

[SteelersPride]

I replied??

no dude, not you, the one were arguing against lol

 

[jwolt92]

no dude, not you, the one were arguing against lol

I thought that's what you were going for, but wasn't sure lol he's all but run away now