Who Has a Shot at a National Title in 2020

[7Samurai13]

Has @fredsdeadfriend seen this thread yet?

He assumes it’s for who is losing to Minnesota in the championship game.

 

[Win TWINS!!!]

If he had, it would be at 20 pages.

Well, then... he needs to get here, toot sweet!

 

[Win TWINS!!!]

Damn you, tHoopla!!!!!

 

[Gatorchip]

I am genuinely curious as to why you think that. I know your schedule sets up nicely ... FSU is the only OOC team you play with a pulse, and they are barely alive. You get LSU that is basically replacing everyone - starters and coaches - at home. You play Ole Miss. And, UGa has to play Auburn and Alabama (although our OOC is very soft this year).

But, you lose a ton on both sides of the ball. Per ESPN:

A better way to measure which teams return the most production in 2020

you return 65% of your O and D, but your losses at WR and the front 7 on D are formidable.

Why so confident you are going to run through LSU, UGA, without slipping up against FSU, Ole Miss, UTjr, and then presumably Bama?

It's important to not build a straw man. I didn't say Florida would run through anyone.

But you pretty much said it all right there. This is all pending injuries and bad luck of course. But the Gators can't ask for a better setup than this coming season in regard to schedule, venue, and losses to other opponents.

Florida's QBs are promising for the first time in many years. The two teams of the greatest challenge have new QB's to break in. The offensive line was terrible last year, and they still managed to find ways to win. it can only get better. Florida also brings in several former 5-stars from the transfer portal that likely will be playing this season. Hopefully enough to fill some key gaps. We still have Grantham however, and he is inconsistent.

The schedule is the most favorable we have had in years. OOC is laughably dog-shit, especially with FSU being down. The venues are also as favorable as possible (@UT, @FSU, @Miss, @Vandy). After this season, the schedule gets harder. Stronger OOC games, and the stars aren't aligned anymore. This is their sweet spot right now.

And unless Georgia soundly beats Alabama, Florida likely will be favored in every game. Even if Florida slips, Georgia still has to beat both Alabama and Auburn.

This is the 'easiest' schedule I've seen for Florida.



This is all pending injuries and bad luck of course. But the Gators can't ask for a better setup than this coming season. It's time for Mullen to prove he is a top coach.

 

[GoldRusher]

I'll give it to Oregon, they're finally recruiting like a national power and not a finesse team that can only beat up on the Pac12. They're building a legit team, and they're bringing in some elite players. They've cleaned up on the west coast in recruiting, and Cristobal seems to have them moving in the right direction. 2020 is probably premature, but I could easily say they're a legit contender in 2021 barring some catastrophic events.

Agree on Oregon, imo them and SC IF the admin gets its act together (I like the AD hire) and they don't get nailed by the scandal stuff which I don't think they will.

Texas and UF seem to be trending as well.

 

[7Samurai13]

Agree on Oregon, imo them and SC IF the admin gets its act together (I like the AD hire) and they don't get nailed by the scandal stuff which I don't think they will.

Texas and UF seem to be trending as well.

But they have been back for the last ten years?

 

[Judge Fudge]

Florida should get to the playoffs, but likely won't win it all.

In my head. Same for ND

In my heart. Different story

 

[GoldRusher]

But they have been back for the last ten years?

I know, but just like the playoff, same thing different year in the off season en sech..

Its just our/my (WVU) way of sneaking up on everybody. We bout to shake up the world

 

[LawDawg]

It's important to not build a straw man. I didn't say Florida would run through anyone.

I'm not trying to be an ass ... I actually like and seek out serious discussion here.

Getting into the CFP, which is what you said, implies you have to run through everyone to get there. Even if we lose to Bama, but beat you, you aren't in the SECCG, let alone the CFP. That's why I posted that ... there is no room for error, as we found out, if you want to get in the CFP.

I do agree that your schedule couldn't line up better. LSU is going to be down ... I can't recall a national champion losing so much productivity and having such high coaching turnover. That said, they will be talented, so it will be a tough game.

I think we are being highly underrated, and I'm fine by that. We return 80% of our starting D, which was the no. 1 D in the country last year. We had 37 players on D that played 100 or more snaps. Our D is going to be filthy.

O is the big question, but I can't imagine it could worse than last year. Fromm, who I admire greatly, really digressed last year. A lot of people keep talking about our O Line, and it's true we are losing 4 really good OL, 1 of which will be top 10 draft pick, 2 in the top 2 rounds, and Mays to UTjr. But, we've been loaded at OL and everyone coming back has a lot of experience. We'll start experience OL, almost all 5* rated out of HS. While I don't think Newman will be as good as Good Jake Fromm, he will be at least as good as Bad Jake Fromm, and we got a lot of Bad Jake last year. Newman played really well at Wake last year, until his best receivers got injured. He will have way better players around him this year. And, our OC is going to be far better than Coley. That was an experiment that went horribly wrong.

As much as I hate to say it, UTjr is going to be a pushover. They've improved a lot, and Pruitt may be better than I have given him credit for. He's still a cousin humping hillbilly, but he turned that team around last year when they could have gone in the crapper.

I do believe UF will be the darling in the media, and you will be picked to win the SECE. I think I am going to like be the one chasing this year, instead of being chased. Good luck.

 

[Gatorchip]

I'm not trying to be an ass ... I actually like and seek out serious discussion here.

Getting into the CFP, which is what you said, implies you have to run through everyone to get there. Even if we lose to Bama, but beat you, you aren't in the SECCG, let alone the CFP. That's why I posted that ... there is no room for error, as we found out, if you want to get in the CFP.

I do agree that your schedule couldn't line up better. LSU is going to be down ... I can't recall a national champion losing so much productivity and having such high coaching turnover. That said, they will be talented, so it will be a tough game.

I think we are being highly underrated, and I'm fine by that. We return 80% of our starting D, which was the no. 1 D in the country last year. We had 37 players on D that played 100 or more snaps. Our D is going to be filthy.

O is the big question, but I can't imagine it could worse than last year. Fromm, who I admire greatly, really digressed last year. A lot of people keep talking about our O Line, and it's true we are losing 4 really good OL, 1 of which will be top 10 draft pick, 2 in the top 2 rounds, and Mays to UTjr. But, we've been loaded at OL and everyone coming back has a lot of experience. We'll start experience OL, almost all 5* rated out of HS. While I don't think Newman will be as good as Good Jake Fromm, he will be at least as good as Bad Jake Fromm, and we got a lot of Bad Jake last year. Newman played really well at Wake last year, until his best receivers got injured. He will have way better players around him this year. And, our OC is going to be far better than Coley. That was an experiment that went horribly wrong.

As much as I hate to say it, UTjr is going to be a pushover. They've improved a lot, and Pruitt may be better than I have given him credit for. He's still a cousin humping hillbilly, but he turned that team around last year when they could have gone in the crapper.

I do believe UF will be the darling in the media, and you will be picked to win the SECE. I think I am going to like be the one chasing this year, instead of being chased. Good luck.

I appreciate your post. I think UF can go undefeated in the SEC East with the talent they have today. So the question is, if they lose the SECCG to an undefeated Alabama, would they still get in the playoffs? Maybe… They would have had to beat both LSU and UGA to get to that point. So it depends on how everyone else did.


LSU will be a tough game, but UF played them pretty well last season all things being said. And now the Gators got them at home. Their offense will not be even close to what we saw last season. I have a good feeling about that game.

I haven’t read much about Georgia, but they often choke away a game. And they lose their QB. I know UGA has the edge in recruiting talent over Florida, but is it at all of the right positions? Likely the most difficult game on the schedule. Do you expect Grantham to screw up so bad again this season against Georgia? You guys converted 12 of 18, and Grantham is going to have that one circled on his calendar for sure. I don’t expect him to be embarrassed like that again.

I assumed you meant UT won’t be a pushover. I agree with you. However, UF basically has a Bye before that game with a directional school. They have time to prepare.


Ole Miss could be a trap game assuming UF is undefeated. Historically, UF struggles against Miss schools for some reason. But this is a first year coach.


Sure UF could slip some where, but they found ways to win last season. I expect even better this season.

 

[tnapucco]

Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Oklahoma will be featuring new QBs...right? Anyone else of note?

OU did retain most of the staff though.

 

[tnapucco]

I know, but just like the playoff, same thing different year in the off season en sech..

Its just our/my (WVU) way of sneaking up on everybody. We bout to shake up the world

smfh not this again

 

[LawDawg]

Do you expect Grantham to screw up so bad again this season against Georgia? You guys converted 12 of 18, and Grantham is going to have that one circled on his calendar for sure. I don’t expect him to be embarrassed like that again.

He's called "3rd and Grantham" for a reason. Don't forget, he was our DC for a couple years, so when we criticize and laugh a Grantham, it's not just because of how we've played against him, but because we know the frustration when he was our DC and we couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. We gave him that moniker when he was our DC. By the way, we are 4-0 against him as a DC since he left UGA, and we outscored his teams (3 coached by Mullens) 128 - 51. I hope Grantham is your DC for many years to come.

Good talk!

 

[LawDawg]

Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Oklahoma will be featuring new QBs...right? Anyone else of note?

OU did retain most of the staff though.

Kind of ...

• Alabama's QB played several games after Tua got injured, and is a Senior.
• UGA's transfer QB Newman has been a starter for 1.5 seasons at Wake.
• LSU's QB Brennan has been a 3 year back-up, with little substantive experience.
• Oklahoma will start Rattler, presumably; he's a RS Freshman, very talented, no experience.
• Fields in his 2nd year at tOSU.
• Obviously, Clemson has the best situation with Sunshine starting 2 years, going into his 3rd.

 

[Gatorchip]

He's called "3rd and Grantham" for a reason. Don't forget, he was our DC for a couple years, so when we criticize and laugh a Grantham, it's not just because of how we've played against him, but because we know the frustration when he was our DC and we couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. We gave him that moniker when he was our DC. By the way, we are 4-0 against him as a DC since he left UGA, and we outscored his teams (3 coached by Mullens) 128 - 51. I hope Grantham is your DC for many years to come.

Good talk!

I'm well aware of his history. And I don't like him. But he does do really well sometimes. I'm hopeful that he wont be as critical this season.

 

[tducey]

Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

All this arguing and here we both agreed the entire time — Nebraska will never be a national power again, as they cannot recruit with the national powers.

Glad we have cleared all this up and we can move on

No one agreed with that either.

You see, you are a special kind of stupid. Impressively stupid. You're that type of stupid that they resevere portions in the federal budget for.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Other than this year's bowl game vs Boise St., tell me the last time Washington was favored vs their opponent in a bowl game. They lost a close one vs Ohio St, a close one vs Penn St. and up until the 4th qtr they held their own vs Alabama in the CFP even though they were playing without arguably their two best defensive players and starting a QB with an injured shoulder (he had surgery less than two weeks after that game). Oregon's claim to fame the past few years in bowl games is a 7 - 6 win over MSU and a last minute win vs Wisconsin.

As far as Oregon owning Washington in the past four years .. Oregon beat Washington in a last minute drive vs a team that replaced 9 starters on defense. The year before Oregon won at home vs UW in OT. The year before that UW beat Oregon by a score of 38 - 3 and beat them at Oregon the year before that by a score of 70 - 21. Oregon got some high end recruits no doubt but not as many 4* recruits as UW. Depth always is a plus.

Washington is looking at its best class ever next year which should include three 5* rated recruits.

Lots Of Washington Targets Make Up Initial 2021 Top 247

2021 Top Football Recruits in Washington

Washington QB commit Huard shreds Adidas National Championship

J.T. Tuimoloau, Eastside Catholic, Defensive Tackle

Sam Huard, Kennedy Catholic, Pro-Style Quarterback

Emeka Egbuka, Steilacoom, Athlete

Julien Simon, Lincoln, Athlete

Ranking the Top 25 Players in the 2021 CFB Recruiting Class

7. J.T. Tuimoloau, DT
Currently the top-ranked defensive tackle in the nation and player in the state of Washington, J.T. Tuimoloau will be one of the hottest recruits on the West Coast. His 6'4⅓", 277-pound frame has plenty of room to go, allowing him to be a future versatile piece on the defensive line wherever he may wind up playing.

9. Emeka Egbuka, ATH
Top-tier recruits with the "athlete" designation have a rocky history, but players like Mecole Hardman have gone on to have a lot of success. Emeka Egbuka has already made a name for himself as a wide receiver and return specialist in high school, with a lot of big names including Alabama's Steve Sarkisian and Ohio State's Brian Hartline recruiting him.

14. Sam Huard, PRO QB
The son of former NFL quarterback Damon Huard, Sam is already planning on following in his dad's footsteps by playing for the Washington Huskies. The 6'2" quarterback has been committed to the Huskies since 2018, and that commitment likely won't change despite the departure of head coach Chris Petersen.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Ranking the Top 25 Players in the 2021 CFB Recruiting Class

7. J.T. Tuimoloau, DT
Currently the top-ranked defensive tackle in the nation and player in the state of Washington, J.T. Tuimoloau will be one of the hottest recruits on the West Coast. His 6'4⅓", 277-pound frame has plenty of room to go, allowing him to be a future versatile piece on the defensive line wherever he may wind up playing.

9. Emeka Egbuka, ATH
Top-tier recruits with the "athlete" designation have a rocky history, but players like Mecole Hardman have gone on to have a lot of success. Emeka Egbuka has already made a name for himself as a wide receiver and return specialist in high school, with a lot of big names including Alabama's Steve Sarkisian and Ohio State's Brian Hartline recruiting him.

14. Sam Huard, PRO QB
The son of former NFL quarterback Damon Huard, Sam is already planning on following in his dad's footsteps by playing for the Washington Huskies. The 6'2" quarterback has been committed to the Huskies since 2018, and that commitment likely won't change despite the departure of head coach Chris Petersen.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Ranking the Top 25 Players in the 2021 CFB Recruiting Class

7. J.T. Tuimoloau, DT
Currently the top-ranked defensive tackle in the nation and player in the state of Washington, J.T. Tuimoloau will be one of the hottest recruits on the West Coast. His 6'4⅓", 277-pound frame has plenty of room to go, allowing him to be a future versatile piece on the defensive line wherever he may wind up playing.

9. Emeka Egbuka, ATH
Top-tier recruits with the "athlete" designation have a rocky history, but players like Mecole Hardman have gone on to have a lot of success. Emeka Egbuka has already made a name for himself as a wide receiver and return specialist in high school, with a lot of big names including Alabama's Steve Sarkisian and Ohio State's Brian Hartline recruiting him.

14. Sam Huard, PRO QB
The son of former NFL quarterback Damon Huard, Sam is already planning on following in his dad's footsteps by playing for the Washington Huskies. The 6'2" quarterback has been committed to the Huskies since 2018, and that commitment likely won't change despite the departure of head coach Chris Petersen.

Shame that you'll miss out on2 of those guys.