When will Lebron pass Jordan?

[GNG]

Well shit, if that's all it takes, I present the new GOAT list based on G&G logic...

1. Kareem
2. Mailman
3. Kobe
4. MJ
5. Wilt
6. Dirk

Nicely done...

 

[DorianRo]

The Real difference is MJ would be UP 2-1 right now on the warriors while LeBeta is down 0-3. Jordan doesn't blow Game 1 and 3.

Its the difference between an alpha (MJ) and a Beta (Lebron)

 

[handicappers]

derp

 

[tlance]

The Real difference is MJ would be UP 2-1 right now on the warriors while LeBeta is down 0-3. Jordan doesn't blow Game 1 and 3.

Its the difference between an alpha (MJ) and a Beta (Lebron)

The real funny thing is that you actually believe that.

The truth is that with this roster, Jordan might not have gotten out of the first round, let alone win a game in the Finals.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

This debate is stupid as fuck.

 

[Tharvot]

Well, first he needs to catch him in a category.

Which category do you think Bron Bron will catch the King in?

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LeBron already passed MJ. He's better

 

[DorianRo]

LeBron already passed MJ. He's better

YEa... SO good he can't even maintain positive Finals Record and bout to be 3 for 9. And now for a 2nd time stuck in an 0-3 in Danger of getting SWEPT a 2nd time. . Much less an UNDEFEATED finals record like Jordan

And if Lebron is "so good" why has the guy had to have more seasons of supporting than ANYONE the last decade? Makes no sense does it?

 

[handicappers]

YEa... SO good he can't even maintain positive Finals Record and bout to be 3 for 9. And now for a 2nd time stuck in an 0-3 in Danger of getting SWEPT a 2nd time. . Much less an UNDEFEATED finals record like Jordan

And if Lebron is "so good" why has the guy had to have more seasons of supporting than ANYONE the last decade? Makes no sense does it?

stop sniffing glue

 

[tlance]

YEa... SO good he can't even maintain positive Finals Record and bout to be 3 for 9. And now for a 2nd time stuck in an 0-3 in Danger of getting SWEPT a 2nd time. . Much less an UNDEFEATED finals record like Jordan

And if Lebron is "so good" why has the guy had to have more seasons of supporting than ANYONE the last decade? Makes no sense does it?

Why do you persist?

Nobody here wants to listen to your garbage.

 

[Berkeley_Blues2.0]

Lebron will never pass Jordan, Bird, Magic or Russell. Never.

 

[msgkings322]

Why do you persist?

Nobody here wants to listen to your garbage.

It's a fair question. Honestly, not kidding, I think @DorianRo has some mental problems.

Dorian, asking seriously without messing with you: you post the same exact thing over and over and over, dozens of times. Same wording, same 'Le3-6' and 'LeCollude' and 'LeBeta' names, same arguments every single time. We get it, you've made your case. Do you honestly think that posting the exact same thing for the 63rd time will make some of us go 'oh NOW I see, yeah Dorian has a point, ok I've changed my mind'? You don't use logic or stats or any new angles, you don't take into account new games like this year's playoffs, you just keep doing the SAME POST over and over.

That is the sign of someone with some mental limitations. It's a combination of OCD and sheer angry despair. What the hell is going on with you?

 

[Raw_Bee808]

Since I'm not sure if I filled my quota for Jordan related posts this week, I will leave this here...

 

[Tharvot]

YEa... SO good he can't even maintain positive Finals Record and bout to be 3 for 9. And now for a 2nd time stuck in an 0-3 in Danger of getting SWEPT a 2nd time. . Much less an UNDEFEATED finals record like Jordan

And if Lebron is "so good" why has the guy had to have more seasons of supporting than ANYONE the last decade? Makes no sense does it?

idiot

 

[Tharvot]

Lebron will never pass Jordan, Bird, Magic or Russell. Never.

Give me LeBron over anyone in the history of the game. He's bigger, faster, stronger, more explosive, and more dominant than anyone who's played the game before. He's the perfect centerpiece if you're starting a franchise from scratch.

 

[tlance]

Lebron will never pass Jordan, Bird, Magic or Russell. Never.

Honestly,

Bird and Russell don't belong in the conversation with LeBron. It isn't even close. LeBron is greater by any objective measure.

 

[10HtownRebs]

MichaelJordan has:
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more offensive help, example:
Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring
* In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons
Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago”
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games.
Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games.
Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018)
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
•Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy.
Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard.
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
MIchael Jordan:
•NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg
•Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY
•Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series:
41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
•Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984–85)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987–88)
•Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES.
•Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984–85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987–88), NBA MVP (1987–88, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1997–98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season
* He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990–91, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98)
•One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986–87)
* Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this.
•MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice!
•In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career…

 

[Mecca]

It's a fair question. Honestly, not kidding, I think @DorianRo has some mental problems.

Dorian, asking seriously without messing with you: you post the same exact thing over and over and over, dozens of times. Same wording, same 'Le3-6' and 'LeCollude' and 'LeBeta' names, same arguments every single time. We get it, you've made your case. Do you honestly think that posting the exact same thing for the 63rd time will make some of us go 'oh NOW I see, yeah Dorian has a point, ok I've changed my mind'? You don't use logic or stats or any new angles, you don't take into account new games like this year's playoffs, you just keep doing the SAME POST over and over.

That is the sign of someone with some mental limitations. It's a combination of OCD and sheer angry despair. What the hell is going on with you?

See!!!!!!

Now you understand why I don't even bother to engage with the Tater.

What's the point in arguing with someone who doesn't have the mental capacity to get it?

 

[Mecca]

YEa... SO good he can't even maintain positive Finals Record and bout to be 3 for 9. And now for a 2nd time stuck in an 0-3 in Danger of getting SWEPT a 2nd time. . Much less an UNDEFEATED finals record like Jordan

And if Lebron is "so good" why has the guy had to have more seasons of supporting than ANYONE the last decade? Makes no sense does it?

 

[RobBase]

 

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