• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

Weeden vs. McCoy

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Is it just me or has McCoy simply outperformed Weeden this preseason? It makes me wonder how long Weeden makes it as starter this season. Here are their stats:

Game 1:

Weeden - 3/9 62 yards, 0 tds 1 int, 19 QB rating
McCoy - 6/8 88 yads, 0 tds, 0 int, 110.4 QB rating

Game 2:

Weeden - 12/20 118 yards, 0 tds, 0 int, 76.7 QB rating
McCoy - 4/6 58 yards, 0 tds, 0 ints, 97.9 QB rating

Game 3:

Weeden - 9/20 117 yards, 0 tds, 0 int, 64 QB rating
McCoy - 7/9 74 yards, 1 tds, 0 int, 138.0 QB rating

It just seems to me that they handed over the QB job to Weeden based simply on his draft status and not by their play. Starting him most likely is going to hurt this team more than help.
 

Bemular

New Member
5,989
0
0
Joined
Mar 6, 2012
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Is it just me or has McCoy simply outperformed Weeden this preseason? It makes me wonder how long Weeden makes it as starter this season. Here are their stats:

Game 1:

Weeden - 3/9 62 yards, 0 tds 1 int, 19 QB rating
McCoy - 6/8 88 yads, 0 tds, 0 int, 110.4 QB rating

Game 2:

Weeden - 12/20 118 yards, 0 tds, 0 int, 76.7 QB rating
McCoy - 4/6 58 yards, 0 tds, 0 ints, 97.9 QB rating

Game 3:

Weeden - 9/20 117 yards, 0 tds, 0 int, 64 QB rating
McCoy - 7/9 74 yards, 1 tds, 0 int, 138.0 QB rating

It just seems to me that they handed over the QB job to Weeden based simply on his draft status and not by their play. Starting him most likely is going to hurt this team more than help.

Dodub, the stats are definitely lopsided but at the end of the day they are still just pre-season stats. That said, it happens all too often that better players sit while money plays - money always takes the field.

With regard to Weeden in particular, IMO, when you draft a 28-year old rookie QB in the first round, you just did something kind of dumb - I don't think this is going to turn out to be Cleveland's finest hour.
 

Badger8843

Active Member
1,056
0
36
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Living in Ohio that's all I hear about is weeden and their new WR Gordon, the browns are awful and will continue to be so
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Dodub, the stats are definitely lopsided but at the end of the day they are still just pre-season stats. That said, it happens all too often that better players sit while money plays - money always takes the field.

With regard to Weeden in particular, IMO, when you draft a 28-year old rookie QB in the first round, you just did something kind of dumb - I don't think this is going to turn out to be Cleveland's finest hour.

I agree. I have no idea why they would draft him in the 1st, it makes no sense. My thing is, if Weeden can't even perform in the pre-season then when can he perform? This has disaster written all over it.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Living in Ohio that's all I hear about is weeden and their new WR Gordon, the browns are awful and will continue to be so

Gordon has looked pretty good the last couple games, I think that will end up being a good pick up for them.
 

deep9er

Well-Known Member
11,001
1,269
173
Joined
Aug 9, 2011
Location
Hawaii
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
not making a judgement on Wheeden but did want to say.......it comes down to your ability to evaluate talent.
 

threelittleturds

anteater
6,726
1
0
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The stats look pretty horrible, but maybe it is because Weeden needs to benefit from schemes and plays designed to get WRs open. Maybe they'll take up Seattle on their desperate attempts to move T. Jackson... or just wait for him to get cut.
 

mem49er

KAEP
4,532
1
0
Joined
Aug 2, 2011
Location
Baked Alaska
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I'll add that didn't McCoy look great last pre-season, too? Dunno what you can really glean.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I'll add that didn't McCoy look great last pre-season, too? Dunno what you can really glean.

It is more about Weeden looking terrible than anything. The fact that McCoy has looked better, just makes it worse
 

mem49er

KAEP
4,532
1
0
Joined
Aug 2, 2011
Location
Baked Alaska
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
It is more about Weeden looking terrible than anything. The fact that McCoy has looked better, just makes it worse

Yeah, I agree with that. McCoy had a chance and sucked it up, now Weeden looks worse. 'Tis still early but I don't think anyone envisions a lotta' fireworks from that offense.
 

Flyingiguana

New Member
5,376
0
0
Joined
Sep 10, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
its ok, cleveland is gonna land the #1 pick and take a new qb anyways
 

I_am_1z

New Member
2,304
0
0
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
QB's statistics are irrelevant at this time of the year. Just look at Cam Newton's stats from last year if you want any proof.

Weeden > McCoy
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
QB's statistics are irrelevant at this time of the year. Just look at Cam Newton's stats from last year if you want any proof.

Weeden > McCoy

Weeden > McCoy based on what at this point? Weeden has done absolutely nothing so far. The guy should not be starting right now, he's simply not ready, and the fact that he's already like 29 means that he was drafted WAY too early. Shoulda been a 3rd or 4th rounder at best.
 

clyde_carbon

Unfkwthble
10,563
0
0
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
Cloud 9
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Weeden is 28. They have to start him ASAP, regardless of who might be better now. It's not like McCoy is gonna lead them anywhere anyways.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Weeden is 28. They have to start him ASAP, regardless of who might be better now. It's not like McCoy is gonna lead them anywhere anyways.

I never really liked the idea of playing a guy simply based on your draft status. The best 11 should be on the field no matter if you are a 1st overall pick or undrafted. I honsetly don't see them having a huge future with Weeden so it doesn't matter if he plays now anyway. At some point you just gotta say 'hes not ready' and put the better (and younger) QB in the game.
 

clyde_carbon

Unfkwthble
10,563
0
0
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
Cloud 9
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I never really liked the idea of playing a guy simply based on your draft status. The best 11 should be on the field no matter if you are a 1st overall pick or undrafted. I honsetly don't see them having a huge future with Weeden so it doesn't matter if he plays now anyway. At some point you just gotta say 'hes not ready' and put the better (and younger) QB in the game.

Maybe you don't, but they do. And they can't waste any time with Weeden.
 

clyde_carbon

Unfkwthble
10,563
0
0
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
Cloud 9
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
And that is why they are the Browns LOL

Touch%25C3%25A9%2B_57e422d95505c6689bc15c8c32c47e70.png
 

Bemular

New Member
5,989
0
0
Joined
Mar 6, 2012
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Nice play by Grant to play two men
 
Top