Ware to be released

[scotsman1948]

This is why I would pass on guys like Jared Allen. Don't sign anyone in FA over 30. It just doesn't work out very often

very limiting outlook

 

[UK Cowboy]

very limiting outlook

Very insightful

 

[fordman84]

Ware being reported as signing with DEN for 3/$30, $20 guaranteed.


Damn, I think they way overpaid on past production.

 

[Eastbay]

Ware being reported as signing with DEN for 3/$30, $20 guaranteed.


Damn, I think they way overpaid on past production.

Superbowl or BUST.....

 

[Manster7588]

Ware being reported as signing with DEN for 3/$30, $20 guaranteed.


Damn, I think they way overpaid on past production.

If that's true he made the right decision not to take a cut.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Lol, ware is not in his prime and has numerous injuries over the last two seasons. He also seems to have a chronic neck injury. Denver is going to have to learn the hard way I guess.

 

[jarntt]

Lol, ware is not in his prime and has numerous injuries over the last two seasons. He also seems to have a chronic neck injury. Denver is going to have to learn the hard way I guess.

Maybe. Or he really is the guy from the preseason and the first couple of games of last year and the combo of Miller and Ware will absolutely scare the shit out of opposing Offenses.

 

[PDay8810]

good for Ware and better for jerry that ware not be in our division

 

[bigdeal701]

Maybe. Or he really is the guy from the preseason and the first couple of games of last year and the combo of Miller and Ware will absolutely scare the shit out of opposing Offenses.

Only time will tell, if he can be that guy, then he just made the Bronco defense much better. If he is the guy we have seen for the last 2 years, they just got worse. I think Ware can still play, but we will see. I still think it was the right move for the Cowboys.

 

[fastforward]

i wouldn't wait, i would call him in and tell him it's a pay cut or the highway

Carr can be cut or traded after June 1st. Here is the cap situation:

Keep Carr at $7.5M in 2014 and release him as a post June 1st cut in 2015 - cap numbers:
2014 $12,217,000
2015 $4,717,000
2016 $7,434,000

Release Carr as a post June 1st cut in 2014 - cap numbers:
2014 $4,717,000
2015 $12,151,000
2016 $0

If he's released post June 1st this year the net differences in the cap situation compared to keeping him for a year will be:
2014 +$7,500,000
2015 +$66,000
2016 +$7,500,000

Obviously this doesn't take into account the cost of a replacement for 1 year. You can use whatever figure you deem appropriate but as a hypothetical example i'll use $4M
Net cap space differences with a $4M replacement for 1 year:
2014 +$3,500,000
2015 -$3,934,000
2016 +$3,500,000

Cutting him post June 1st is realistic if the Cowboys want to make that move - so yes, they will have leverage as the season approaches. The questions are:
1) What will the Cowboys think he's worth after pre-season evaluation?
2) What's the cost of a replacement?
3) Are the Cowboys prepared to suffer reduced cap space in 2015 although there would be clear cap space benefits in other years?
4) Is the difference between his salary, the replacement cost, and the Cowboys evaluation wide enough to make it worth while cutting him?

With the moves the Cowboys have already made they're no longer forced to make a quick decision. I don't expect them to cut Carr in September but it's what they should do if they don't think he's worth $5M at the 53-man roster deadline, (or if he doesn't accept a cut to lessen the difference between salary and evaluation).

 

[UK Cowboy]

Lol, ware is not in his prime and has numerous injuries over the last two seasons. He also seems to have a chronic neck injury. Denver is going to have to learn the hard way I guess.

If watching Ware rack up 12-15 sacks a year is learning the hard way, I agree. The Bronco's play with an early lead in nearly every game they play. Ware will be allowed to pin his ears back and attack the QB. For the first time in his career, he'll be across from another great pass rusher in Von Miller. Miller will draw TE's and backs. Ware will get a lot of one on one's for the first time ever, and if healthy, will eat them alive

 

[PDay8810]

Carr can be cut or traded after June 1st. Here is the cap situation:

Keep Carr at $7.5M in 2014 and release him as a post June 1st cut in 2015 - cap numbers:
2014 $12,217,000
2015 $4,717,000
2016 $7,434,000

Release Carr as a post June 1st cut in 2014 - cap numbers:
2014 $4,717,000
2015 $12,151,000
2016 $0

If he's released post June 1st this year the net differences in the cap situation compared to keeping him for a year will be:
2014 +$7,500,000
2015 +$66,000
2016 +$7,500,000

Obviously this doesn't take into account the cost of a replacement for 1 year. You can use whatever figure you deem appropriate but as a hypothetical example i'll use $4M
Net cap space differences with a $4M replacement for 1 year:
2014 +$3,500,000
2015 -$3,934,000
2016 +$3,500,000

Cutting him post June 1st is realistic if the Cowboys want to make that move - so yes, they will have leverage as the season approaches. The questions are:
1) What will the Cowboys think he's worth after pre-season evaluation?
2) What's the cost of a replacement?
3) Are the Cowboys prepared to suffer reduced cap space in 2015 although there would be clear cap space benefits in other years?
4) Is the difference between his salary, the replacement cost, and the Cowboys evaluation wide enough to make it worth while cutting him?

With the moves the Cowboys have already made they're no longer forced to make a quick decision. I don't expect them to cut Carr in September but it's what they should do if they don't think he's worth $5M at the 53-man roster deadline, (or if he doesn't accept a cut to lessen the difference between salary and evaluation).

don't confuse releasing Ware as the start of the great salary dump. Jerry will not be in rebuilding mode.
Carr will be in Dallas and most likely restructured again

 

[tw1st3d]

Superbowl or BUST.....

That looks like the plan

 

[tw1st3d]

don't confuse releasing Ware as the start of the great salary dump. Jerry will not be in rebuilding mode.
Carr will be in Dallas and most likely restructured again

I hope not on the Carr restructure ..... I want to see him this year. Get his confidence back and see if he can adjust to zone or if Rod adjust ( Like a Zimmer) and schemes to his players

 

[fordman84]

If watching Ware rack up 12-15 sacks a year is learning the hard way, I agree. The Bronco's play with an early lead in nearly every game they play. Ware will be allowed to pin his ears back and attack the QB. For the first time in his career, he'll be across from another great pass rusher in Von Miller. Miller will draw TE's and backs. Ware will get a lot of one on one's for the first time ever, and if healthy, will eat them alive

health will be the issue. But he has Talib and a solid defense back there as well, to help give him an extra half second to get to the QB.

 

[tw1st3d]

and blahhhhhh on Denver

( I do wish Ware Luck)

seen this horse and pony show before though

"dream team" ring any bells?

 

[fordman84]

and blahhhhhh on Denver

( I do wish Ware Luck)

seen this horse and pony show before though

"dream team" ring any bells?

haha, yeah but the DEN team has WAY more talent and leadership than Vick and Vince.

 

[tw1st3d]

haha, yeah but the DEN team has WAY more talent and leadership than Vick and Vince.

true

they also have more injury prone players ..... up in age .... playing in cold weather and thin air

WITH a blue print ( from Seattle) of how to handle a Qb that no longer has a strong arm

 

[cdumler7]

true

they also have more injury prone players ..... up in age .... playing in cold weather and thin air

WITH a blue print ( from Seattle) of how to handle a Qb that no longer has a strong arm

The Broncos only have 5 players on their roster over the age of 30 so not sure where you are getting this up in age idea? I do agree on the injury side of it as they did have over half the defense on IR last year but beyond that age wise they are just fine. It is part of the reason they have been able to spend as much money as they have because they have so many players still on rookie contracts.

 

[tw1st3d]

The Broncos only have 5 players on their roster over the age of 30 so not sure where you are getting this up in age idea? I do agree on the injury side of it as they did have over half the defense on IR last year but beyond that age wise they are just fine. It is part of the reason they have been able to spend as much money as they have because they have so many players still on rookie contracts.

Was talking about some of the guys yall just got NOT your core roster