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And Coug says the Vikes have the worst oline in the league, Ive watched both extensively, I call :bullshit:


The Rams AVG 80 rushing yards a game the Vikes AVG 72. both are pathetic but the Vikes are worse.
 
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The Rams AVG 80 YARDS a game the Vikes AVG 72. both are pathetic but the Vikes are worse.

That does not prove Jack Shit, please get a flipping clue and stop relying on your precious PFF also. its not all about run blocking, Rams QB's have been sacked more and thrown the ball less. So Rams get more yardage per game, Todd Gurley supposedly a good RB, averages 3.2 yards behind this line that means they run the ball more, GET IT?, That average is about the same as the Vikes RB;s!!! I'd guess the Ram QB's get hit more Too
Id think that Rams oline gets called for more penalties also!!
 

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That does not prove Jack Shit, please get a flipping clue and stop relying on your precious PFF also. its not all about run blocking, Rams QB's have been sacked more and thrown the ball less. So Rams get more yardage per game, Todd Gurley supposedly a good RB, averages 3.2 yards behind this line that means they run the ball more, GET IT?, That average is about the same as the Vikes RB;s!!! I'd guess the Ram QB's get hit more Too
Id think that Rams oline gets called for more penalties also!!



It has nothing to do with PFF. That is what the Rams avg and that's what the Vikrs avg. simple math Smed. You make fun of Bradford for throwing quick short passes which avoids a lot of unnesarry sacks like Goff takes but then you try to put it on the Oline lol. Can't have it both ways. Maybe Goff should try throwing the ball away? Thats why Sam's NFL record is so impressive. He did it with the worst running game in the league :nono:
 

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It has nothing to do with PFF. That is what the Rams avg and that's what the Vikrs avg. simple math Smed. You make fun of Bradford for throwing quick short passes which avoids a lot of unnesarry sacks like Goff takes but then you try to put it on the Oline lol. Can't have it both ways. Maybe Goff should try throwing the ball away? Thats why Sam's NFL record is so impressive. He did it with the worst running game in the league :nono:

And we supposedly have a stud running back who after this game will have an average of 3.1 yards per carry, exactly what the Vikes horrible backs average, I'd say that has a lot to do with the oline.

Obviously you can't even do simple math, Rams run the ball, they should have more running yards, average per run is still the same, that's math. Sam also leads league in shortest passes thrown, his receivers account for the majority of his yards, that's math!
 

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And we supposedly have a stud running back who after this game will have an average of 3.1 yards per carry, exactly what the Vikes horrible backs average, I'd say that has a lot to do with the oline.

Obviously you can't even do simple math, Rams run the ball, they should have more running yards, average per run is still the same, that's math. Sam also leads league in shortest passes thrown, his receivers account for the majority of his yards, that's math!


Vikes pass the ball because they have to. and they can. :nod:
 

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To throw some more salt on the Rams franchise Carson Wentz broke a rookie record today for most completions by a rookie QB. He passed Sam Bradford's record from 2010. :doh:
 

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Sorry Coug i was wrong, after todays game the Vikes have run the,ball more, for like 50 or 60 yards,less. Doesnt change the fact, Rams have stud running back that couldnt do squat behind this,line. You said Vikes RBs suck, yet they were similar to Gurley, so evidently their oline helped them to at least do as well as a stud rB
 

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Are you really this dumb, or is it an act? I've said he makes some good throws, I've also said his receivers make some nice catches! How come you never show the other 95% of his passes. How about the 16 yard TD pass that the RB caught 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage. How about that wobbly 1 yard TD pass, that was a thing of beauty that only Sammie could have thrown!
I could go on and on, I watch all his games, you see highlights!

And he's done all this against some pretty damn good defenses, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE WITH THIs BULLSHIT,

I'll give you the only stat that really matters

Sam Bradford= 7-8 and that's in a good year!
 

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To throw some more salt on the Rams franchise Carson Wentz broke a rookie record today for most completions by a rookie QB. He passed Sam Bradford's record from 2010. :doh:


That's right, just another rookie QB that matched or surpassed Sammys "amazing" rookie year! I guess it really wasnt all that amazing as you claim it to be? You also forgot to mention he also threw for more yards and had a higher completion percentage!
 

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Sorry Coug i was wrong, after todays game the Vikes have run the,ball more, for like 50 or 60 yards,less. Doesnt change the fact, Rams have stud running back that couldnt do squat behind this,line. You said Vikes RBs suck, yet they were similar to Gurley, so evidently their oline helped them to at least do as well as a stud rB


I don't think I said the Vikes RB's suck. I actually think McKinnon and Asiata make a pretty good combo. The Oline sucks. T.J. Clemmings is by far the worst LT in the game. He makes Robinson look like a stud. His PFF grade is 28. Thats unbelievable. he got hurt yesterday and his replacement granted it was a small sample did a way better job.
 

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That's right, just another rookie QB that matched or surpassed Sammys "amazing" rookie year! I guess it really wasnt all that amazing as you claim it to be? You also forgot to mention he also threw for more yards and had a higher completion percentage!


The only Rookie that beat Sams completion record from 2010. You act like it happens all the time? that was 6 years ago.
 

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Are you really this dumb, or is it an act? I've said he makes some good throws, I've also said his receivers make some nice catches! How come you never show the other 95% of his passes. How about the 16 yard TD pass that the RB caught 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage. How about that wobbly 1 yard TD pass, that was a thing of beauty that only Sammie could have thrown!
I could go on and on, I watch all his games, you see highlights!

And he's done all this against some pretty damn good defenses, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE WITH THIs BULLSHIT,

I'll give you the only stat that really matters

Sam Bradford= 7-8 and that's in a good year!


ARE you taking about the pass in the flat to the RB? It was right to him? Its on the highlight.
 

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Look I agree the Rams OLINE has played very bad as has the Vikes. I am CONCERNED with Gurley though he just doesn't look right. To me it doesn't look like he's running as hard as his rookie year. Im just saying 8 wins behind that Oline I think is actually pretty good. We saw the record before the Oline was completely destroyed.
 

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I don't think I said the Vikes RB's suck. I actually think McKinnon and Asiata make a pretty good combo. The Oline sucks. T.J. Clemmings is by far the worst LT in the game. He makes Robinson look like a stud. His PFF grade is 28. Thats unbelievable. he got hurt yesterday and his replacement granted it was a small sample did a way better job.

You pretty much have said all year that after Pederson got hurt, Sammie has no running game? Their running backs aren't as good as Gurley, yet they have done just as good a job!
And again we don't give a shit what PFF says, your right Clemmings isnt very good, but if you think Clemmings makes Robinson look like a stud, then I have to believe you don't watch the games at all and you just go off of what some website tells you!

Overall Vikes oline hasn't played bad at all over the past 3 or 4 games, Sammys had quite a bit of time!
 

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Look I agree the Rams OLINE has played very bad as has the Vikes. I am CONCERNED with Gurley though he just doesn't look right. To me it doesn't look like he's running as hard as his rookie year. Im just saying 8 wins behind that Oline I think is actually pretty good. We saw the record before the Oline was completely destroyed.

I agree with you Coug, neither one is a very good oline. My problem is when you spout off all the time that the Vikes have the worst oline in the NFL? They may have one of the worst, but I wouldn't say they are the worst, I would say Rams oline is worse, yet I don't even think they are the worst in the league
 

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The only Rookie that beat Sams completion record from 2010. You act like it happens all the time? that was 6 years ago.

Once again, like always with you Coug, do you look at the big picture? Most Rookie QB's don't throw the ball almost 600 times their rookie year, let alone any year? I think Wentz had more attempts than Samie did in 2010 (not sure), but I do know he threw for a better completion percentage and for more yards than Sammie did, so it's more a reflection of throwing the ball a lot.

Sammie had a decent rookie season, it was by no means amazing or dreamy as you always say it was! I'm sure I could name at least 5 if not more QB's that have gone to the playoffs after being drafted after Sammie. Probably at least 5-10 that had at least IF NOT BETTER statistical years then he had.
 

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ARE you taking about the pass in the flat to the RB? It was right to him? Its on the highlight.

And again, he had a good game, nothing great, and against yet another bad defense, and a lot of YAC yards!
 

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I agree with you Coug, neither one is a very good oline. My problem is when you spout off all the time that the Vikes have the worst oline in the NFL? They may have one of the worst, but I wouldn't say they are the worst, I would say Rams oline is worse, yet I don't even think they are the worst in the league


Well I can tell you the Vikes had the worst running game in 2016 thats a fact. The Rams did close the gap the last few games which is a bad reflection on a team that quit. but the Vikes Avg 75 yards and the Rams 78. I can tell you their is a decent gap between Clemmings and GR. Granted they both suck but Robinson has played better. and PFF watches every play so I don't know why you argue that. Clemmings grades out at 28 GR IS 38. GR IS a 48 run blocking compared to 27 for Clemmings. Clemmings grades out the worst LT since PFF HAS been tracking players over the last 10 years.

I just don't get how you can argue that Sam had a damn good year playing behind this OLINE. Not to mention he was put on this team a week before the season!! Do you know how hard that would be?
 

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Here is a break down of Sams nothing special season Smed.

He finished 5th in Completions.

He set the NFL record for Completion %. 71.6%

He finished 16th in total Yards 3877 playing in 15 games.

He finished 19th in YDS/A. 7.02. Derek Carr finished 18th 7.03

He finished 6th in TD/ INT Ratio. 20/5

He finished 6th in QB rating. 99.3.

Not to bad seeing he was traded to them a week before the season and had one of the worst Olines and the worst running attack in the NFL.

Most people had Derek Carr an MVP candidate before he got hurt. Oakland has an absolute beast of an Oline. The numbers are almost identical.


Com AtT %. Yds. YDS/A. TD INT. QBR. Y/G
14 Derek Carr, QB OAK 357 560 63.8 3,937 7.03 28 6 96.7 262
15 Sam Bradford, QB MIN. 395 552 71.6 3,877 7.02 20 5 99.3 258
 
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