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[DTC]

We have been more than patient it’s time to move on

I get your thoughts but I don’t agree.
He was hit by a pitch and broke his jaw
Then hit by a pitch and broke his forearm.
Bad luck.
He had a mid .800 OPS in 2019
.700s in a struggling start this year before being injured.
He will make a good DH/LF
His 2019 #s over 80 games equate to 41 HR and 100 RBI in 162 games or 37 HR 85 RBI over 145 games. He is also entering into his last 3 years at age 27-29. Usually the most productive.
I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
Even if he can hit .750-.815 with 25-30 HRs that would be nice.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I get your thoughts but I don’t agree.
He was hit by a pitch and broke his jaw
Then hit by a pitch and broke his forearm.
Bad luck.
He had a mid .800 OPS in 2019
.700s in a struggling start this year before being injured.
He will make a good DH/LF
His 2019 #s over 80 games equate to 41 HR and 100 RBI in 162 games or 37 HR 85 RBI over 145 games. He is also entering into his last 3 years at age 27-29. Usually the most productive.
I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
Even if he can hit .750-.815 with 25-30 HRs that would be nice.

I don't think it's time to give up on Willie, but I also don't think he's ever gonna be a 30/100 guy

 

[scotsman1948]

I get your thoughts but I don’t agree.
He was hit by a pitch and broke his jaw
Then hit by a pitch and broke his forearm.
Bad luck.
He had a mid .800 OPS in 2019
.700s in a struggling start this year before being injured.
He will make a good DH/LF
His 2019 #s over 80 games equate to 41 HR and 100 RBI in 162 games or 37 HR 85 RBI over 145 games. He is also entering into his last 3 years at age 27-29. Usually the most productive.
I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
Even if he can hit .750-.815 with 25-30 HRs that would be nice.

i understand but in 5 seasons he's played in 219 games out of a potential 810 games. we've have and are considering cutting loose other players who have had less opportunity so as i said time to move on

 

[DTC]

I don't think it's time to give up on Willie, but I also don't think he's ever gonna be a 30/100 guy

Hitting 100 RBI might be tough but I think he can hit 30 HR if can stay healthy

 

[scotsman1948]

Hitting 100 RBI might be tough but I think he can hit 30 HR if can stay healthy

if he could stay healthy! he has never played a half season in 5 years closest would be 29 in 2020 and 83 in 2019

 

[DTC]

if he could stay healthy! he has never played a half season in 5 years closest would be 29 in 2020 and 83 in 2019

He played in 132 games in 2016, 141 games in 2017, 143 games in 2018 and 124 games in 2019.
And then broke his jaw spring training 2020 by hbp
Broke forearm 2021 by HBP
Bad luck..that’s about all.

 

[saddles]

I want a guy who can make some plays like this in CF and hit big homers the inning before

We have him. His name is Adolis Garcia.

 

[saddles]

He played in 132 games in 2016, 141 games in 2017, 143 games in 2018 and 124 games in 2019.
And then broke his jaw spring training 2020 by hbp
Broke forearm 2021 by HBP
Bad luck..that’s about all.

It would be ridiculous to move on from him because he was hit in the face and forearm by pitches. That reminds me of those ridiculous claims that Pudge was becoming injury prone after he was injured on a backswing.

 

[DTC]

We have him. His name is Adolis Garcia.

Adolis is tied for 2nd (w/Gallo) in OF assist with 12
Renfroe leads with 16, but Boston always has high OF assist bc of their ball park.
Renfroe hits a HR every 16.5 AB
Adolis every 17 AB

we pretty much do have our own hunter renfroe lol
Adolis has better speed and range in the outfield though. Leading to a much higher value on his defense.
Adolis is the better player. Atleast in 2021

 

[saddles]

Latest Rumors On Mets' Front Office

The Mets plan to return Sandy Alderson to his former role and hire a new baseball operations leader. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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The Mets are rumored to be interested in Jon Daniels making a lateral move. I wonder what kind of deal we could work out.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Latest Rumors On Mets' Front Office

The Mets plan to return Sandy Alderson to his former role and hire a new baseball operations leader. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

The Mets are rumored to be interested in Jon Daniels making a lateral move. I wonder what kind of deal we could work out.

Alonso for JD straight up

 

[DT LUNA]

Latest Rumors On Mets' Front Office

The Mets plan to return Sandy Alderson to his former role and hire a new baseball operations leader. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

The Mets are rumored to be interested in Jon Daniels making a lateral move. I wonder what kind of deal we could work out.

IMO things have looked better since Young came on board. Any reasonable deal is warranted.

 

[DTC]

Latest Rumors On Mets' Front Office

The Mets plan to return Sandy Alderson to his former role and hire a new baseball operations leader. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

The Mets are rumored to be interested in Jon Daniels making a lateral move. I wonder what kind of deal we could work out.

Francisco Alvarez for Jon Daniels

 

[scotsman1948]

He played in 132 games in 2016, 141 games in 2017, 143 games in 2018 and 124 games in 2019.
And then broke his jaw spring training 2020 by hbp
Broke forearm 2021 by HBP
Bad luck..that’s about all.

Standard Batting​

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
2017	22	TEX	AL	13	37	34	3	9	0	0	1	4	0	0	2	7	.265	.324	.353	.677	75	12	0	1	0	0	0	7/DH
2018	23	TEX	AL	35	108	99	8	22	5	0	2	11	0	0	6	24	.222	.269	.333	.602	58	33	2	1	0	2	0	7/HD
2019	24	TEX	AL	83	337	309	51	83	14	1	21	48	0	0	23	53	.269	.323	.524	.848	110	162	5	3	0	2	0	7/DH
2020	25	TEX	AL	29	108	100	3	19	2	1	1	13	0	0	5	17	.190	.231	.260	.491	36	26	1	1	0	2	0	D/7H
2021	26	TEX	AL	59	226	205	23	52	8	2	5	19	0	2	19	27	.254	.323	.385	.708	96	79	3	2	0	0	0	7D/H
5 Yrs	219	816	747	88	185	29	4	30	95	0	2	55	128	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	312	11	8	0	6	0
162 Game Avg.	162	604	553	65	137	21	3	22	70	0	1	41	95	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	231	8	6	0	4	0

2018 35 games
2019 83 games

 

[DTC]

Standard Batting​

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
2017	22	TEX	AL	13	37	34	3	9	0	0	1	4	0	0	2	7	.265	.324	.353	.677	75	12	0	1	0	0	0	7/DH
2018	23	TEX	AL	35	108	99	8	22	5	0	2	11	0	0	6	24	.222	.269	.333	.602	58	33	2	1	0	2	0	7/HD
2019	24	TEX	AL	83	337	309	51	83	14	1	21	48	0	0	23	53	.269	.323	.524	.848	110	162	5	3	0	2	0	7/DH
2020	25	TEX	AL	29	108	100	3	19	2	1	1	13	0	0	5	17	.190	.231	.260	.491	36	26	1	1	0	2	0	D/7H
2021	26	TEX	AL	59	226	205	23	52	8	2	5	19	0	2	19	27	.254	.323	.385	.708	96	79	3	2	0	0	0	7D/H
5 Yrs	219	816	747	88	185	29	4	30	95	0	2	55	128	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	312	11	8	0	6	0
162 Game Avg.	162	604	553	65	137	21	3	22	70	0	1	41	95	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	231	8	6	0	4	0

2018 35 games
2019 83 games

Minor leagues as well. Shows overall ability to stay healthy before these two freak bad luck incidents.

 

[DTC]

Standard Batting​

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
2017	22	TEX	AL	13	37	34	3	9	0	0	1	4	0	0	2	7	.265	.324	.353	.677	75	12	0	1	0	0	0	7/DH
2018	23	TEX	AL	35	108	99	8	22	5	0	2	11	0	0	6	24	.222	.269	.333	.602	58	33	2	1	0	2	0	7/HD
2019	24	TEX	AL	83	337	309	51	83	14	1	21	48	0	0	23	53	.269	.323	.524	.848	110	162	5	3	0	2	0	7/DH
2020	25	TEX	AL	29	108	100	3	19	2	1	1	13	0	0	5	17	.190	.231	.260	.491	36	26	1	1	0	2	0	D/7H
2021	26	TEX	AL	59	226	205	23	52	8	2	5	19	0	2	19	27	.254	.323	.385	.708	96	79	3	2	0	0	0	7D/H
5 Yrs	219	816	747	88	185	29	4	30	95	0	2	55	128	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	312	11	8	0	6	0
162 Game Avg.	162	604	553	65	137	21	3	22	70	0	1	41	95	.248	.304	.418	.722	88	231	8	6	0	4	0

2018 35 games
2019 83 games

 

[scotsman1948]

Minor leagues as well. Shows over ability to stay healthy before these two freak bad luck incidents.

we are talking about someone who can't stay healthy on the ML roster and has occupied a 40-man roster spot for 5 years. if this was any other player on the roster everyone would be calling for him to go

 

[DTC]

we are talking about someone who can't stay healthy on the ML roster and has occupied a 40-man roster spot for 5 years. if this was any other player on the roster everyone would be calling for him to go

Yeah if it was due to constant issues like pulling hamstrings, or elbow injuries or ankle problems or something like that.
He’s a different case.
This is due to Bad Luck! I wouldn’t assume he will get hit and be sidelined for months at a time every single year.
2017 was a cup of coffee
2018 & 2019 was his introduction to the MLB and he did great in 2019 once called up after playing 40+ games in the minors
2020 was a bs year for everything. Broken jaw
2021 broke his arm
2022-2024 he could very well be one of our better hitters.

 

[scotsman1948]

Yeah if it was due to constant issues like pulling hamstrings, or elbow injuries or ankle problems or something like that.
He’s a different case.
This is due to Bad Luck! I wouldn’t assume he will get hit and be sidelined for months at a time every single year.

i wouldn't either but he seems to be very injury prone

 

[DTC]

i wouldn't either but he seems to be very injury prone

It does seem that way. Maybe he is injury prone? I dont know
But if he can produce when healthy and be replaced on the roster when not, I don’t see any harm in keeping him.
he could miss 3 months next year too.. who knows? But his spot becomes available on the 40 man when they go on the 60 day.
Probably wouldn’t even be needed though.