tOfficial "Jameis Winston" Superthread

[Noles21]

Give it time...a lot of this stuff has only been revealed in the past 2 weeks.

NYT released an article months ago stating the same thing Fox Sports just did last week

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

The civil rights charges is what I'd be concerned with the most. Especially with this new info.

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

NYT released an article months ago stating the same thing Fox Sports just did last week

Are you referring to their article last April?

 

[FSUmanager]

Regardless, how hard would he be to locate?

Not regardless. You posted drastically incorrect information. And again I ask where you got that info?

 

[Noles21]

Jameis Winston rescues stray puppy - Tomahawk Nation


We sure he didn't drop it off at a kill shelter?

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

Not regardless. You posted drastically incorrect information. And again I ask where you got that info?

You're obfuscating.

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

The federal investigation into FSU broke 12 days before the NY Times story. Coincidence?

 

[FSUmanager]

Documents: Police, FSU hampered Jameis Winston investigation
Kevin Vaughan

FOX Sports

OCT 10, 2014 4:23P ET

Ramifications for Florida State in the Jameis Winston Case
OCT 11, 12:05 AMFOX Sports 1 investigative reporter, Kevin Vaughan, explains what Florida State is facing in their handling of the Jameis Winston sexual assault case. Plus, what's next for the Seminoles quarterback.


Florida State University officials and Tallahassee police took steps to both hide, and then hinder, the criminal investigation into a r*pe allegation against the school's Heisman-trophy winning quarterback Jameis Winston last fall, a FOX Sports investigation has found.
The upshot: University administrators and Winston’s attorney, Tim Jansen, had a head start on the state attorney in Tallahassee responsible for investigating and prosecuting serious crimes. Florida State administrators, for instance, had all the police reports at least four days before State Attorney Willie Meggs was handed the case.
After learning in December of 2013 that no charges would be filed, FOX Sports examined thousands of pages of documents — including law enforcement files, e-mails and other correspondence as well as video and audio interviews conducted by detectives and other records — through a series of requests filed with multiple agencies under Florida's public records laws.
Among the findings:
• The university's police chief obtained original police reports as well as supplemental reports from Tallahassee police on Nov. 8, 2013, at least four days before the case was turned over to Meggs, the local prosecutor responsible for investigating serious crimes and filing criminal charges.

JAMEIS WINSTON INCIDENTS TIMELINE

Florida State's quarterback has been in trouble frequently since arriving on campus. Take a chronological look at the issues.
• The university's police chief forwarded the reports to a high-ranking administrator in the Florida State athletic department, and within days they ultimately wound up in the hands of Winston's defense attorney — also before Meggs was notified of the case and launched his own investigation.
• Two critical witnesses — Florida State football players who said they were present the morning of the alleged assault — discussed the case with Winston's lawyer and ultimately signed affidavits at his behest backing the quarterback's version of the incident. That happened before law enforcement officers tried to talk to them about what they saw and remembered, a dramatic road block in the state attorney's effort to determine whether Winston should be charged with r*pe.
• That same high-ranking administrator in the athletic department sought information from the university's police chief about a reporter seeking the reports on the allegations against Winston.
• The second-highest ranking officer in the campus police department ran interference with another reporter seeking information about the allegations, terming them a "rumor" that he was glad he could "dispel."
• Both of those police officials were involved in updating Florida State administrators on the case and helping formulate the school's public relations response in the first days after the explosive story became public.

Fox Sports

The problem I saw and still see with the Fox article and that parrot it is this.

They claimed to have gotten the emails within TPD, FSU, and FSUPD yet they give no names of the officials involved and no time stamps with dates of these emails. If you have that info why not publish it? This is a serious question.

 

[FSUmanager]

You're obfuscating.

You are dodging the question.

 

[Noles21]

Do you think Winston autographed the puppy? Wonder if Rovell is checking to see if it was authenticated

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

Not regardless. You posted drastically incorrect information. And again I ask where you got that info?

That's how Casher had described himself to the victim and that's what she and witnesses reiterated to the police. Now, to the point, how hard would it have been to track Casher down from that info? She gave them his name, description, school status etc. It wouldn't take a great detective to find him....simply speak to the football coaches or ask them for their roster.

 

[FSUmanager]

The federal investigation into FSU broke 12 days before the NY Times story. Coincidence?

NYT article was about the TPD and not FSU disregarding title IX. Two separate issues. Also the accuser's original attorney said in February to FSU to cease all communication with her. 4 days later she was now represented by John Clune. That is two months before the NYT article. So yeah considering the content of the article and timing of new lawyers it is a coinkydink. IMHO which means jack shit.

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

You are dodging the question.

Was that answer clear enough for you? Now do you think the popo put up an honest effort?

 

[FSUmanager]

That's how Casher had described himself to the victim and that's what she and witnesses reiterated to the police. Now, to the point, how hard would it have been to track Casher down from that info? She gave them his name, description, school status etc. It wouldn't take a great detective to find him....simply speak to the football coaches or ask them for their roster.

She said he introduced himself that way. Does notean he did or did not. And she did not give Casher's description. She gave a description of someone 5'10 and 240lbs. That is the only physical description given in the reports.

 

[Noles21]

To be fair, I told girls all the time I played football.... I didn't

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

NYT article was about the TPD and not FSU disregarding title IX. Two separate issues. Also the accuser's original attorney said in February to FSU to cease all communication with her. 4 days later she was now represented by John Clune. That is two months before the NYT article. So yeah considering the content of the article and timing of new lawyers it is a coinkydink. IMHO which means jack shit.

Actually, a heads up being given to one side and not the other by FSU officials would indeed be a title ix violation and clearly display preferential treatment and corruption.

 

[yeodonie]

Actually, a heads up being given to one side and not the other by FSU officials would indeed be a title ix violation and clearly display preferential treatment and corruption.

Ding ding ding. They put their star athlete's well being ahead of that of an alleged r*pe victim. Sickening

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

She said he introduced himself that way. Does notean he did or did not. And she did not give Casher's description. She gave a description of someone 5'10 and 240lbs. That is the only physical description given in the reports.

You better look over the police reports again. On one the inspector puts down the above height description and without making any notation as to why he put 6'2" on another. But regardless, once she saw him in class she identified Winston and we all know now that id was correct. But keep attacking her credibility.with that line.

 

[Cyder]

To be fair, I told girls all the time I played football.... I didn't

I would say I was a ranked tennis player. Back then it was impossible to know anyone outside the top 20. Now everyone has google on their fancy smart phones. Damn technology

 

[BusSport]

Fake FSU Investigation? FSU Has Not Even Called Autograph Company to Ask Questions About Jameis

FSU has said that it is investigating the Jameis Winston autographs. But...

[ame]http://twitter.com/bianchiwrites/status/522861634680004608[/ame]

ESPN: Owner of autograph company says FSU has not called to ask how he got all those Jameis autographs. Another phantom investigation?