podsox
Well-Known Member
pretty funny
Personally I think the odds that Winston got paid to sign these autographs is exactly the same odds that Alabama players got paid by Tom Albetar at T-Town Menswear. Now what do you think that percentage is?
He said that he was use to how they do it in Winn-Dixie where you pay for the crab legs at the seafood counter and don't have to worry about it when leaving the store.
Actually saw a very plausible theory on this from Nole Digest suggesting that the crab legs thing is probably a perk that football players get from the store, but Winston couldn't exactly SAY that...
Make a lot more sense than a Heisman Trophy winner attempting to shoplift crab legs IMO... (And it is hardly an excuse either.).
Honest question for FSU fans: At what point do you just look at how many accusations there are, say "Wow, that's a lot of stuff and it keeps happening" and stop defending the guy? I'm not even saying start bashing him, but when do you look at all of this and stop defending him?
I remember when the Reggie Bush crap was going on with USC. At first, I was defending him and his family vehemently. After awhile, it became pretty obvious that he and his family were dirty and had gotten stuff they weren't supposed to. I doubt they got as much as they were accused of, but they clearly received things they weren't supposed to. At that point, I stopped defending him.
Just wondering what more needs to come out for FSU fans?
Honest question for FSU fans: At what point do you just look at how many accusations there are, say "Wow, that's a lot of stuff and it keeps happening" and stop defending the guy? I'm not even saying start bashing him, but when do you look at all of this and stop defending him?
I remember when the Reggie Bush crap was going on with USC. At first, I was defending him and his family vehemently. After awhile, it became pretty obvious that he and his family were dirty and had gotten stuff they weren't supposed to. I doubt they got as much as they were accused of, but they clearly received things they weren't supposed to. At that point, I stopped defending him.
Just wondering what more needs to come out for FSU fans?
All I need is more proof than what a court of law requires.
If someone comes out and says they have evidence of him receiving money, I'd be all on board with him getting the boot.
I don't look too much into the BB gun incident, the Burger King soda thing, or the FHRITP--- yes, all are huge signs of immaturity and more, but not deserving of being kicked off or anything.
The crab legs was pretty dumb on his part, but he didn't get away with it, so if that's his worst crime to date I'm ok with him right now.
The r*pe accusation was unsettling, and obviously there's wayyyyy more to it as we've learned, but to this point he has not been charged or proven to have done it.
It has gotten old, and he should know that in his position he will be under a microscope... but IMO some of these stories have been over exaggerated and made into a bigger deal than need be
All I need is indisputable evidence. Not the crab legs or fhritp shit, but evidence he either did in fact take money or did in fact sexually assault the girl. Not innuendo or opinions. Actual evidence. That comes out I will kick to the curb immediately.
Fair enough. If I were an FSU fan though, my patience would be wearing very, very thin. Imo, sometimes you have to look at the fact that it keeps happening.
As I've said before, outside of the r*pe allegation, any of these things by themselves can be excused as a dumbass college kid doing what dumbass college kids do. Heck, even if you take all of those incidents and have them divided up among a few players on the team.....no big deal.
But these are several incidents, all of them with the same guy. How many times has this kid had to apologize/explain his actions? Isn't there a point where it becomes clear that the apologies/explanations are just words to him with no real meaning?
I'm not trying to bash on you guys for defending him as I've been in pretty much the same spot you are and know how it feels.