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Series Thread: tOfficial Cardinals vs Red Sox

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It was a no win for him (unless he got away with the obstruction). That's not the purpose of obstruction though. It's so that a player is awarded bases he would've gotten had the defensive player not been in his way. Middlebrooks slowed him down, regardless of whether there was anything he could do about it. If middle brooks was not there the run would've scored.

If Middlebrooks wasn't there, there wouldn't be a third baseman! He was playing his position. should he just let the ball go by him?? Should he run the other way?? Take 3 steps off the bag and try to catch it??
 

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yea but that wasnt obstruction. it was players playing baseball fucking trying to make a play. maybe he should have just let the ball go into the outfield and put down roses alone the sideline for the runner to get to home. this is why baseball is a fucking pussy sport. gay shit like this happens and you back it like its no problem. even a retarded person knows that was absurd, why u defend it is humorous. the third baseman has a right to make a play for the ball. in that instant situation its not his fault the runner stumbled over him. hes trying to make a play. not trying to obstruct the runner. intentional or not that call should have never been made. the reverse of the situation is middlebrooks not making a play at all, letting the ball go by him and the runner goes free range towards home. thats absurd. he has to try and make the play. rules seem to favor the runner just give him a free ride towards home. not logical when trying to make a play.
Definition of butthurt, right there. Yes, it is.
 

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Exactly. He was the one who blew the kids no hit bid. It was pretty sad and uncomfortable listening to him after the game. Him trying to explain why he called interference. His description doesn't match the way the play went down. The statement that he, Craig was on the chalk line trying to head home is way of base. So to speak.
Other than a few Boston fans here or there, no one, and I mean no one, is saying this was a bad call. That would be because it was the correct call.

This from someone who hates St. Louis, and really doesn't care about Boston.
 

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If Middlebrooks wasn't there, there wouldn't be a third baseman! He was playing his position. should he just let the ball go by him?? Should he run the other way?? Take 3 steps off the bag and try to catch it??

How's that relevant? If middlebrooks just magically disappeared would the runner have scored? Yes. That's why it's interference. It has nothing to do with Middlebrooks not doing enough to avoid it it's so that the runner isn't held up because of the fielder. Wouldn't you agree it's just as stupid that a runner wouldn't be allowed to advance because a fielder was in his way?
 

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Honestly the more I think about it, after I just watched and stopped the video a few times, I think Allen Craig might have been out even if he didn't trip
 

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How's that relevant? If middlebrooks just magically disappeared would the runner have scored? Yes. That's why it's interference. It has nothing to do with Middlebrooks not doing enough to avoid it it's so that the runner isn't held up because of the fielder. Wouldn't you agree it's just as stupid that a runner wouldn't be allowed to advance because a fielder was in his way?

Who could he have done to avoid it so the runner isn't held up?? Based on the circumstance I don't think it should have been called.
 

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Other than a few Boston fans here or there, no one, and I mean no one, is saying this was a bad call. That would be because it was the correct call.

This from someone who hates St. Louis, and really doesn't care about Boston.[/QUOTE

Not sure what your point is? Did you read this tread? I said earlier he indeed did interfered with him. But the way the ump is explaining it doesn't match what happened on the play. Saying you called it because the runner was "on the chalk line trying to head home" is not accurate to the play.
 

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Other than a few Boston fans here or there, no one, and I mean no one, is saying this was a bad call. That would be because it was the correct call.

This from someone who hates St. Louis, and really doesn't care about Boston.[/QUOTE

Not sure what your point is? Did you read this tread? I said earlier he indeed did interfered with him. But the way the ump is explaining it doesn't match what happened on the play. Saying you called it because the runner was "on the chalk line trying to head home" is not accurate to the play.

He indeed did interfered with him? Yeah, I read this thread (tread) :noidea: and you're not only stupid but a crying puss as well. Your team lost, get over it.
 

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He indeed did interfered with him? Yeah, I read this thread (tread) :noidea: and you're not only stupid but a crying puss as well. Your team lost, get over it.
If your team was in the Red Sox position, I bet you would have complained about it, just like any team's fanbase if they were in that spot - there's no doubt I would have complained about it if the Phillies were in that spot, it's just too big of a situation and a rule that is iffy compared to the other rules and how it really should be interpreted to not feel emotional about it
 

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If your team was in the Red Sox position, I bet you would have complained about it, just like any team's fanbase if they were in that spot - there's no doubt I would have complained about it if the Phillies were in that spot, it's just too big of a situation and a rule that is iffy compared to the other rules and how it really should be interpreted to not feel emotional about it

Oh look a philly Card hater. What a shocker! Cards won, you hate it and I love it!
 

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That was the correct & obvious call.

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There doesn't need to be intent when making contact with the base runner & obstructing him. Once the ball is passed Middlebrooks, he can't make contact with a runner in the base paths, intentionally or unintentionally. The base paths are clearly defined as 3 feet on either side of the bag. The chalk line is only for foul/fair ball calls.

It sucks to end any game let alone a WS with a call like this, but it was any easy call to make.
 

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Honestly the more I think about it, after I just watched and stopped the video a few times, I think Allen Craig might have been out even if he didn't trip
The trip cost him at least 1.5 seconds. He absolutely would have been safe
 

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Is it bad that I took off my Mizzou shirt and put on a Cards shirt in the 9th inning because I didnt want to jinx my baseball team?
 

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As bad as Boston fans feel right now, Allen Craig looked really bad at the end there. If he is done for the series, that is HUGE if/when the series goes back to Boston
 

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If your team was in the Red Sox position, I bet you would have complained about it, just like any team's fanbase if they were in that spot - there's no doubt I would have complained about it if the Phillies were in that spot, it's just too big of a situation and a rule that is iffy compared to the other rules and how it really should be interpreted to not feel emotional about it
No, I wouldn't. It was an obvious call, that was the correct call. I would have said, "oh, shit, can you believe that happened? Tough luck, on to the next game." I wouldn't be saying all the stupid stuff that is being said here, that is for sure.
 

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The trip cost him at least 1.5 seconds. He absolutely would have been safe

Sure he would -- if Middlebrooks' prostrate body could magically cease to occupy physical space. What would the outcome be if Craig watched where he was going & not runned directly into Middlebrooks' prostrate body?
 

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A little sadistic but I wish this happened at Fenway, I'd still be laughing. Outcome sucks but so do extra innings games. Kudos to Joyce for preventing a possible 18 inning game.
 
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