Series Thread: tOfficial Cardinals vs Red Sox

[briz almighty]

Tough shit

My advice to you, is to curl up with the MLB rule book and conduct a thorough review, in case there are any more "fucking stupid" rules that might, at some point in the future, not sit well with you. If you find enough infractions, you can then throw the book in the trash and make the conscientious decision to stop following baseball.

fuck u. that was a shit call. the guys were just playing ball. that shit happens there was no intent to obstruct him. he was trying to make a play. bring up your technical rules all you want but that was pathetic. let them play. fucking obstruction give me a break.

 

[NinersFan80]

I mean, one time I pretended the catcher overthrew me at second base on a steal. The runner took off for third and we got an easy out. Maybe preventing the runner from running isn't something he had time to think about though. Well never know for sure. But it doesn't matter. Maybe the rule should be changed, maybe it shouldn't. I'm probably biased for thinking the rule makes sense.

The rule shouldn't be changed. It is a judgement call by the ump. It was Joyce's call and that is what he decided to call. And I don't like it in that situation in a World Series game in the bottom of the 9th to decide it.

 

[PATSOX08]

That's what he said. The interview was very awkward. The umps had trouble explaining the rule the same way. Each had a different view of it. But all agreed the defensive player needs to get out of the way. A reporter asked.."how does he get out of the way?" ump replies.."he gets up and moves." lol That rule needs to be reviewed.

 

[Wazmankg]

The rule shouldn't be changed. It is a judgement call by the ump. It was Joyce's call and that is what he decided to call. And I don't like it in that situation in a World Series game in the bottom of the 9th to decide it.

Yeah I suppose it's messed up that it will be remembered for the obstruction call, when it was simply a bad throw that lost the game. Exciting game though. I'm looking forward to a few more.

 

[NinersFan80]

That's what he said. The interview was very awkward. The umps had trouble explaining the rule the same way. Each had a different view of it. But all agreed the defensive player needs to get out of the way. A reporter asked.."how does he get out of the way?" ump replies.."he gets up and moves." lol That rule needs to be reviewed.

If he gets up he still gets tangled up with Craig. There wasn't enough time for him to get out of the way. Again you don't call that in that situation. Just like when throwing a hail mary in the 4th quarter you don't call pass interference even though it probably happens every time

 

[Cobiemonster]

You think he had that much time to think about all that??

Exactly my point

 

[Cobiemonster]

That's what he said. The interview was very awkward. The umps had trouble explaining the rule the same way. Each had a different view of it. But all agreed the defensive player needs to get out of the way. A reporter asked.."how does he get out of the way?" ump replies.."he gets up and moves." lol That rule needs to be reviewed.

lol yeah exactly, if he gets up and moves, he still runs into Allen Craig

I don't even think the umpires know what they're trying to say sometimes - the problem is that not all the umpires are on the same page, when you have umpires having differing views on the rule book and how they're interpreted, maybe that's a problem?

 

[Ojb81]

fuck u. that was a shit call. the guys were just playing ball. that shit happens there was no intent to obstruct him. he was trying to make a play. bring up your technical rules all you want but that was pathetic. let them play. fucking obstruction give me a break.

Obstruction is part of "playing ball", jackass, it happens from time to time. Rare, but it happens. Quit your sniveling because an incidence of it took place at the end of a WS game involving your precious sawx. You know damn well that chances of either of us seeing that happen again in our lifetimes is mere fractions of a percentage point.

 

[NinersFan80]

Also when Craig starts to run he is looking behind him. I think he would of tripped over Middlebrooks no matter if his legs were up or not.

 

[da55bums]

look, if you play whiffleball, you would know that the call was BS..

 

[Cobiemonster]

Also when Craig starts to run he is looking behind him. I think he would of tripped over Middlebrooks no matter if his legs were up or not.

Yeah I think he was already in the process of tripping over him before the legs went up

 

[Manster7588]

Considering only Middlebrooks feet were near the base path is it possible he did intentionally lift his feet. Not to trip Craig but to give him a clear path down the base line where he belongs. I'll grant you Middlebrooks did trip Craig by lifting his feet but had Craig stayed on the base path where he belongs there is no tripping.

 

[uncfan103]

The rule shouldn't be changed. It is a judgement call by the ump. It was Joyce's call and that is what he decided to call. And I don't like it in that situation in a World Series game in the bottom of the 9th to decide it.

So the runner shouldn't have been allowed to score after he was held up by the fielder because it was a World Series game? What other rules should baseball only apply situationally?

 

[brin3535]

Yeah I think he was already in the process of tripping over him before the legs went up

Of course you do.

 

[PATSOX08]

Considering only Middlebrooks feet were near the base path is it possible he did intentionally lift his feet. Not to trip Craig but to give him a clear path down the base line where he belongs. I'll grant you Middlebrooks did trip Craig by lifting his feet but had Craig stayed on the base path where he belongs there is no tripping.

Exactly! Very good observation.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Considering only Middlebrooks feet were near the base path is it possible he did intentionally lift his feet. Not to trip Craig but to give him a clear path down the base line where he belongs. I'll grant you Middlebrooks did trip Craig by lifting his feet but had Craig stayed on the base path where he belongs there is no tripping.

Yep correct on that one, I've been saying that Allen Craig could have went to the right of Will Middlebrooks feet and it would have been perfectly legal, he would have still been way in the baseline if he done something just simple like that - he ran right into the legs, gave him no shot of getting up

 

[briz almighty]

Obstruction is part of "playing ball", jackass, it happens from time to time. Rare, but it happens. Quit your sniveling because an incidence of it took place at the end of a WS game involving your precious sawx. You know damn well that chances of either of us seeing that happen again in our lifetimes is mere fractions of a percentage point.

yea but that wasnt obstruction. it was players playing baseball fucking trying to make a play. maybe he should have just let the ball go into the outfield and put down roses alone the sideline for the runner to get to home. this is why baseball is a fucking pussy sport. gay shit like this happens and you back it like its no problem. even a retarded person knows that was absurd, why u defend it is humorous. the third baseman has a right to make a play for the ball. in that instant situation its not his fault the runner stumbled over him. hes trying to make a play. not trying to obstruct the runner. intentional or not that call should have never been made. the reverse of the situation is middlebrooks not making a play at all, letting the ball go by him and the runner goes free range towards home. thats absurd. he has to try and make the play. rules seem to favor the runner just give him a free ride towards home. not logical when trying to make a play.

 

[eric5577x]

LOL...at the umps!!!

 

[brin3535]

Considering only Middlebrooks feet were near the base path is it possible he did intentionally lift his feet. Not to trip Craig but to give him a clear path down the base line where he belongs. I'll grant you Middlebrooks did trip Craig by lifting his feet but had Craig stayed on the base path where he belongs there is no tripping.

Game over. You lose.

 

[NinersFan80]

So the runner shouldn't have been allowed to score after he was held up by the fielder because it was a World Series game? What other rules should baseball only apply situationally?

What are you talking about? I said the rule shouldn't be changed. The rule is totally a judgement call in this case and I feel like it shouldn't of been called in that moment. It had nothing to do with the rule except it being a judgement