THE PAC12 Thread

[963BUSC]

Hopefully there's an actual monsoon like the last time we played USC at home. That was fun.

That weather was freaky strange, I have to admit, I didn't think they called it a monsoon though.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

That weather was freaky strange, I have to admit, I didn't think they called it a monsoon though.

They called it a maroon out. Illinois last year was the first Maroon Monsoon.

 

[BeaverShaver]

I just don't understand what happened to the penetration Asu got last year.

Didn't they lose Burfict, another LB and a DL? I cant remember if Burfict left last year or year before.

 

[963BUSC]

California @ Oregon -36 1/2

Southern Cal @ Arizona State - 6 1/2

Colorado @ Oregon State -10 1/2

Stanford @ Washington State +10 1/2

Game of the Week

Arizona @ Washington -8 1/2

Pick final Score:
Arizona 17 Washington 21

 

[963BUSC]

They called it a maroon out. Illinois last year was the first Maroon Monsoon.

Ahh, got it. I thought you were talking about the freaky weather in the third quarter, with the wind, (and the flying tortillas). Yeah, I should have remembered the maroon monsoon, they used to do the Blackout I actually thought was cooler but I think people claimed it wasn't politcally correct.

 

[trojanfan12]

top 25. I only mentioned top 50 when you asked about UW and KSt.
No it isnt just good defenses because Oregon also lost to USC who was a horrible D in 2011 and a Stanford team in 2009 whose d ranked #90.

little streak? by that do you mean what you believe that Oregon has only been good for a couple years or the reality that they have been good long enough to have more than what I would call a "little" streak?
for the record I think LSU was the only top 10 defense Oregon has faced in probably the BCS era.

Actually, USC had a fairly solid defense in 2011!! They weren't world beaters, but they were solid. You're thinking of last years D!!

 

[trojanfan12]

I told you that was a term of endearment. I love clowns.

 

[Olyduck]

Actually, USC had a fairly solid defense in 2011!! They weren't world beaters, but they were solid. You're thinking of last years D!!

You are right last year was horrible the 2011 was nothing special #54 in the country.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Ted Miller's PAC12 power rankings:

1. Oregon: When Stanford led Arizona State 39-7 after three quarters, it looked like the Cardinal would return to the top perch. But then Stanford yielded its killer instinct in the fourth, and the Sun Devils' rally keeps the Ducks No. 1.

2. Stanford: As dominant a first half against a good team as you could imagine. In fact, it's possible we're being too hard on Stanford because how well things went in the first half made the fourth quarter seem even worse than it was. Well, cry me a river.

3. UCLA: The Bruins go into the bye week still dealing with the emotions surrounding the death of a teammate, but they are playing very good football on both sides of the ball.

4. Washington: The Huskies' nonconference slate couldn't have turned out much better. A visit from Arizona will provide the first conference test. And the Huskies might be motivated by the whipping the Wildcats gave them last season in Tucson.

5. Arizona State: A bit difficult to get a handle on the Sun Devils. They deserve credit for the quality win over Wisconsin. And ridicule for the first half against Stanford. And credit for the strong fourth-quarter surge against the Cardinal. USC's visit, therefore, feels like a moment for far stronger and more decisive judgment.

6. Washington State: The Cougars' defense has been one of the season's biggest surprises, particularly the stout play of the front seven. That front seven will get a huge test in Seattle on Saturday against Stanford's offensive line.

7. Arizona: It seems like some Arizona fans believe their team has been cheated of coverage during the Wildcats' tour through the Little Sisters of the Poor nonconference schedule. Well, if the Wildcats post a quality win in Seattle, the media will refocus.

8. Oregon State: Beavers, Kevin wanted to demote you for your three horrid quarters at San Diego State. But his glass-half-full partner saw a gutty fourth quarter. Winning ugly feels a lot better than, well, losing to a supposedly overmatched foe ... as you know Beavs.

9. Utah: Ute fans (see ... not "Utes fans") are probably sitting back with a cold drink enjoying their dismissal of BYU. Yes, the gloating will be thick, as it should be after winning your fourth consecutive Holy War in advance of a two-year rivalry hiatus. And 3-1, after all, meets fairly optimistic preseason expectations. But, Utah, you are still 0-1 in Pac-12 play. Enjoy the off week. Then buckle your chin strap tight and prove yourselves in conference play. Up next is UCLA on Oct. 3. Then Stanford.

10. USC: Well, the defense still looks good. And Utah State is a solid team. But, man, Lane Kiffin's Trojans just seem determined not to play to their talent potential on offense. The visit to Arizona State likely sets the trajectory for the season. A loss would probably end South Division hopes. And maybe all hope.

11. Colorado: Colorado has been off for two weeks, so it will be interesting to see if the Buffaloes show some rust at Oregon State. Little Colorado has seen on film from the Beavers, particularly on defense, should make the Buffs think they can't win in Corvallis. And if that happens, Colorado can start using the "B" word. As in bowl (did I need to clarify that?).

12. California: Cal should be well-rested after a bye week. The good news is ... oh. Urp. Oregon. Autzen Stadium. A second consecutive top-five team. A third ranked team. Who put Sonny Dykes' first schedule together ... Mephistopheles?

6. Washington State: The Cougars' defense has been one of the season's biggest surprises, particularly the stout play of the front seven. That front seven will get a huge test in Seattle on Saturday against Stanford's offensive line.

I'm telling this is gonna be the team this year squashing other teams bowl bids, these frickn Cougs are this years sleeping giant under Leach, I know Wazzy hates him but damn it he can coach up his players real good, might not happen this week against Stanford, but watch they will ruin someone parade...

 

[trojanfan12]

You are right last year was horrible the 2011 was nothing special #54 in the country.

Last years defense was unwatchable!! They actually set school records for defensive futility!!

 

[asu_08]

6. Washington State: The Cougars' defense has been one of the season's biggest surprises, particularly the stout play of the front seven. That front seven will get a huge test in Seattle on Saturday against Stanford's offensive line.

I'm telling this is gonna be the team this year squashing other teams bowl bids, these frickn Cougs are this years sleeping giant under Leach, I know Wazzy hates him but damn it he can coach up his players real good, might not happen this week against Stanford, but watch they will ruin someone parade...

I have that game and the Utah game circled. Back to back weeks on the road in cold weather stadiums with the possibility of snow.

 

[WizardHawk]

I just don't understand what happened to the penetration Asu got last year.

It lasted more than 4 hours and got amputated in the off season.

 

[SUBuddha]

I am truly interested to see how the Pirate handles this game. WSU has great defensive numbers, but they have not faced a truly dominant O line yet. Stanford led the nation in sacks and tfl with fewest rushers last year. I honestly think that Stanford might play nickel most the game and only send 4 on the rush the entire game. WSU's run game is just not that dominant.

If WSU's d-line is as good as I think they are, we may see Stanford having to air it out a bit more than usual. Then again Shaw may stick to Power, Power, Power, Punt like he did in the 4th Qtr against ASU.

That, and Clink gives the Cougs a far more pronounced home field advantage than Pullman IMHO.

I can see this being an upset, but I am thinking Stanford 42 - WSU 17

 

[trojanfan12]

It lasted more than 4 hours and got amputated in the off season.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

It lasted more than 4 hours and got amputated in the off season.

Sike look at our sack numbers from last year.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Didn't they lose Burfict, another LB and a DL? I cant remember if Burfict left last year or year before.

No last year he was a rookie in the NFL...

 

[WizardHawk]

I am truly interested to see how the Pirate handles this game. WSU has great defensive numbers, but they have not faced a truly dominant O line yet. Stanford led the nation in sacks and tfl with fewest rushers last year. I honestly think that Stanford might play nickel most the game and only send 4 on the rush the entire game. WSU's run game is just not that dominant.

If WSU's d-line is as good as I think they are, we may see Stanford having to air it out a bit more than usual. Then again Shaw may stick to Power, Power, Power, Punt like he did in the 4th Qtr against ASU.

That, and Clink gives the Cougs a far more pronounced home field advantage than Pullman IMHO.

I can see this being an upset, but I am thinking Stanford 42 - WSU 17

This is still the cougs, not UCLA or Oregon. Their D has been good against who? A USC offense that couldn't score 20 on a high school D right now?

Don't get me wrong, they won't be as bad as Cal or Colorado by any means, but this is very much a work in progress and far from world beaters as they stand right now.

The Clink doesn't give them as big of a home field as you might think. Sure, there will be a lot of the western wa coug fans at the game, but there are always a lot of visiting fans and just curious fans in general at these yearly home away from home games. I don't believe I've ever seen the cougs play well in Seattle, but I'm sure I haven't paid that close of attention and may have forgotten a good game somewhere.

Stanford will win and it won't be as close as the ASU game IMO.

 

[WizardHawk]

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[SUBuddha]

WH, that was my point by bringing up U$C. WSU has not faced a truly talented offense yet. So I suspect more of Shaw going power, power, power to test them. If they stand up to the test then he will go to the air. I expect a jet sweep and a wheel route in the first half.

After Stanford's performance at Clink last year, I am nervous about the place. I have not been home in a long time, and have not been to the stadium, but even a smaller than usual Coug following there will be loud if Stanford lets them stay in the game.

 

[trojanfan12]

This is still the cougs, not UCLA or Oregon. Their D has been good against who? A USC offense that couldn't score 20 on a high school D right now?

Don't get me wrong, they won't be as bad as Cal or Colorado by any means, but this is very much a work in progress and far from world beaters as they stand right now.

The Clink doesn't give them as big of a home field as you might think. Sure, there will be a lot of the western wa coug fans at the game, but there are always a lot of visiting fans and just curious fans in general at these yearly home away from home games. I don't believe I've ever seen the cougs play well in Seattle, but I'm sure I haven't paid that close of attention and may have forgotten a good game somewhere.

Stanford will win and it won't be as close as the ASU game IMO.

Seriously?!? What the hell? I guarantee that our offense could score 20 points on almost any 8-man high school football team (as long as we still get 11 players)!!