The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[WhiteMamba]

Man, I should be a handicapper. I got ragged on when I said Oregon would be a 13 1/2 point fav vs MSU.

Reg, you should be making more threads. You find some quality stuff.

 

[asu_08]

both Arizona and Arizona State are a bit surprising based on last years games.

It seems like they're putting a lot of stock in home field advantage for the Arizona schools. Both teams combined for only 3 home losses last year so it makes sense although USC being favored by 11 against ASU is a little surprising to me.

It's really hard to predict how these two teams will do though with ASU having a ton of questions on defense and UA not knowing who their QB will be.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Posted this as a thread. Thanks Reg...

 

[RegentDenali]

Man, I should be a handicapper. I got ragged on when I said Oregon would be a 13 1/2 point fav vs MSU.

Reg, you should be making more threads. You find some quality stuff.

These numbers are about as useful as bowl predictions right now, since we haven't even started a day of fall camps yet and so much can go between then and start of the season. But that being said, these numbers are at least in the ball park of what your going to see as opening lines. -13 is pretty big, but the game is at Autzen and Ducks will be one of those teams with heavy preseason hype this year. Especially with the playoffs starting. The media has a shiny new toy to play with that. Everyone will be lining up to find ways to make money off it.

If I would have to guess right now, I would say the Ducks do open around -13, but the line moves slightly to -11 or -10 in the days leading up to the game. But still, appears Vegas is giving ya guys plenty of confidence out of the gate with this game.

I'm a PAC sports addict. What can I say. Probably should start posting more of this on the general board too.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Yes you should.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Beavs land their class of 2015 QB.

Pro-Style QB James Pensyl (Land O'Lakes H.S., FL). He threw for 2,345 yds and 22 TDs his Junior year. Quite the tall one at 6'7".

OSU gave Pensyl, currently an unranked prospect by Rivals, his first major offer last month. Offensive coordinator John Garrett visited Pensyl twice during the spring evaluation period before Pensyl opted to take an unofficial visit.

"There were a couple of things I really loved about Oregon State," Pensyl told BeaverBlitz.com. "The coaching staff is amazing and I loved the town. I love the atmosphere. The people out here are great.

Hope the kid lands safely @ "Quarterback U"...what's NOT to like with Riley's pro-style passing offense AND the Beavers ability to develop QB talent in the PAC12.

Steele has Oregon as #1 O line in the nation.

I kinda like THIS quote on the up-n-coming Beaver O-line this year mamba...

Oregon State: This is a little bit of a projection forward because the Beavers' offensive line was just so-so last year -- the rushing attack ranked 10th and, well, the pass blocking in the Alamo Bowl left something to be desired. But four quality starters are back, led by freshman All-American center Isaac Seumalo. The Beavers' 90 returning starts on the line ranks 17th in the nation and first in the Pac-12.

BTW Mamba...


Did you SEE Beaver ex Scott Shultz's 1st start yesterday for the Hop's baseball club? Outfuckingstanding sir!

 

[WhiteMamba]

Nice. Wallace. Whereby ya been by the way? I haven't made it to ballpark yet but I need to soon.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Nice. Wallace. Whereby ya been by the way? I haven't made it to ballpark yet but I need to soon.

Running with the bulls in Spain, catching tube rides in Puerto Escondido Mexico and frolicking the hours away taking care of biz worldwide...same ol stuff you know.

Hops 1st home game this week sometime...games are $7 apiece...we'll have to get together and go see one. They have won 4 in row on the road. Seem to have a decent talent level this year so far.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Heck ya we need to. I bet Hammer would be happy to know the Padres farm system is continuing to improve.

The. Pads are poised for success in the very near future.

 

[trojanfan12]

Running with the bulls in Spain, catching tube rides in Puerto Escondido Mexico and frolicking the hours away taking care of biz worldwide...same ol stuff you know.

Hops 1st home game this week sometime...games are $7 apiece...we'll have to get together and go see one. They have won 4 in row on the road. Seem to have a decent talent level this year so far.

All that and you can't make it to SoCal to see your Beavs get curbst....er, play a game vs. my Trojans?

 

[mrwallace2ku]

All that and you can't make it to SoCal to see your Beavs get curbst....er, play a game vs. my Trojans?

Guess we'll NEED a point spread come gametime TF, curbst et al I mean. Let's light this candle today goodsir...HOW MANY points ya gonna give me here?

BTW TF...

On my way back from mainland Mex I believe I "air mailed" a package down to you via a flush from the plane I was on...terrible mess it was, so I didn't bother to package any of it up. I did think of you tho bro.

 

[RegentDenali]

NFL.com's CFB 24/7 column writer Bryan Fischer lists his 2014 top PAC-12 breakout players:

10. WR Vince Mayle, Washington State
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 240 pounds, senior
Buzz: The Cougars have a deep receiving corps, but do throw it enough in Mike Leach's Air Raid offense to get multiple wideouts some big stats. While a lot of people think Gabe Marks or Dominique Williams will be the primary target of quarterback Connor Halliday, Mayle has the athleticism and ability to turn into a stud in his own right. He had a great spring and finally knows the nuances of route running to turn into the type of player NFL scouts will keep an eye on. His big finish to 2013 bodes well for a great 2014 season.

9. TE Connor Hamlett, Oregon State
Particulars: 6-7, 260, junior
Buzz: You can't replace Brandin Cooks' production in the Beavers' offense, but Hamlett will be one of several players that will have to contribute to make up some of the yards and touchdowns from the 2014 first-round pick. Hamlett made 40 catches a season ago and should see those numbers shoot up as one of the primary targets of Sean Mannion. His soft hands and good size make him a matchup nightmare, and he has the potential to become one of the West Coast's top tight ends.

8. QB Cyler Miles, Washington
Particulars: 6-4, 217, sophomore
Buzz: Keith Price has moved on to the NFL and new head coach Chris Petersen has a number of options he can go with under center. Although Miles missed spring practice due to disciplinary issues, he is the most talented quarterback on the Huskies' roster and is the only one with significant game experience. He showed flashes in 2013 and his mobility presents an extra dimension for teams to defend. If he earns Petersen's trust and ends up as the starter, the sky is the limit for Miles.

7. WR Nelson Spruce, Colorado
Particulars: 6-1, 205, junior
Buzz: Paul Richardson was the playmaker for the Buffaloes the past couple of years and replacing him won't be easy. Spruce was second in line last season and is facing a ton of pressure to step up and be the No. 1 option. There are no issues at quarterback with Sefo Liufau under center, so the QB-WR combination could help lead the team to a bowl game if all goes right.

6. DE Nate Orchard, Utah
Particulars: 6-4, 255, senior
Buzz: The departed Trevor Reilly is a big loss for the Utes' defense, but coaches are confident that Orchard can step up as a leader while turning into a big presence on the defensive line. He saw a good deal of playing time last season, but has all the tools to turn into an All-Pac-12 selection and possible NFL draft pick.

 

[trojanfan12]

Guess we'll NEED a point spread come gametime TF, curbst et al I mean. Let's light this candle today goodsir...HOW MANY points ya gonna give me here?

BTW TF...

On my way back from mainland Mex I believe I "air mailed" a package down to you via a flush from the plane I was on...terrible mess it was, so I didn't bother to package any of it up. I did think of you tho bro.

I'll have to see how we look when it gets closer to the game. Still have your Beavs pegged as the IC game that I'm going to this year.

 

[RegentDenali]

5. DL Delvon Simmons, USC
Particulars: 6-6, 300, junior
Buzz: The Trojans are replacing three starters from last season's defensive line, but are adjusting to coordinator Justin Wilcox's new 3-4 base alignment. With stud All-American Leonard Williams at end and Antwaun Woods at tackle, Simmons has a chance to make an impact for the Trojans on the opposite side of Williams. He was a starter at Texas Tech before deciding to transfer and has the skills to provide a big boost to USC's defense in 2014.

4. OG Josh Garnett, Stanford
Particulars: 6-5, 316, junior
Buzz: One of the big pickups in the impressive offensive line haul by the Cardinal a few years ago, Garnett has been a key member of the team's "Jumbo" package for two seasons. He has the tough task of replacing All-American David Yankey, but is more than capable given his experience and physicality. If he lives up to expectations, he'll be yet another Stanford lineman drafted in a year or two.

3. RB Javorius "Buck" Allen, USC
Particulars: 6-1, 215, junior
Buzz: Allen hardly saw any carries with Lane Kiffin in charge last year, but Kiffin's departure paved the way for the tailback to see meaningful action down the stretch. He made the most of his carries and emerged as a starter in the final four games. Steve Sarkisian turned Bishop Sankey into one of the best backs in the nation, and could do the same with Allen as the Trojans' primary ball carrier.

2. WR Austin Hill, Arizona
Particulars: 6-3, 210, senior
Buzz: It would be more of a comeback season for Hill than a breakout one. After tearing his ACL last year in spring practice, Hill leads a strong receiving corps for the Wildcats and has All-American potential if everything comes together. With uncertainty at quarterback and RB Ka'Deem Carey now in the NFL, coach Rich Rodriguez is counting on Hill turning into a star on the outside.

1. WR Keanon Lowe, Oregon
Particulars: 5-9, 180, senior
Buzz: He had just 18 catches a season ago, but is primed for a huge jump in his numbers as the No. 1 receiver for the Ducks with the loss of Bralon Addison to a knee injury and Josh Huff off to the NFL. He'll be tasked with becoming the leader of a young group and he should have youngsters like Devon Allen, Chance Allen and Darren Carrington help push him. All in all, it's never a bad thing when you have a quarterback like Marcus Mariota throwing you the ball.

 

[trojanfan12]

3. RB Javorius "Buck" Allen, USC
Particulars: 6-1, 215, junior
Buzz: Allen hardly saw any carries with Lane Kiffin in charge last year, but Kiffin's departure paved the way for the tailback to see meaningful action down the stretch. He made the most of his carries and emerged as a starter in the final four games. Steve Sarkisian turned Bishop Sankey into one of the best backs in the nation, and could do the same with Allen as the Trojans' primary ball carrier.

I'm very curious to see this offense. From everything I'm hearing, Sark is basically taking the pro-style offense that USC traditionally runs and putting a turbo charger on it. It's supposed to have a heavy dose of running the ball.


We're going to have a fairly inexperienced, but talented O-line. It'll be interesting to see if playing the hunh style helps the O-line like I think it might.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

I'll have to see how we look when it gets closer to the game. Still have your Beavs pegged as the IC game that I'm going to this year.

First Pac12 game of the year, you bet your going to TF. Just be prepared to lose OR just see a great ballgame. I'll have me good eye open as well.

I'm very curious to see this offense. From everything I'm hearing, Sark is basically taking the pro-style offense that USC traditionally runs and putting a turbo charger on it. It's supposed to have a heavy dose of running the ball.


We're going to have a fairly inexperienced, but talented O-line. It'll be interesting to see if playing the hunh style helps the O-line like I think it might.

I wouldn't expect USC to do ANYTHING but get back to what they have always done best...run the rwak down an opps throat all game long.

 

[WhiteMamba]

WallUSC sighting

 

[WhiteMamba]

good to have ya back bro. Glad you got back safe en sech...

 

[mrwallace2ku]

^ Jepperz....Stayin "easy" as always Mamba.

 

[RegentDenali]

Expect PAC12 recruiting announcements for their 2015 classes to start heating up as multiple schools will be hosting their camps this weekend and over the next couple weeks. The big names that show up at these are usually seriously considering committing to those programs.

The Opening camp is coming up as well where many of the best recruits in the nation make their verbals.


With a lot of football related activity going on this week with the PAC, some noticable commits that happened today include:

3-star CB/WR Cedric Peterson (Rancho Verde, CA) and 2-star TE Brion Anduze (Silverdale, WA) committed to Arizona.


3-star TE Michael Neal (Etiwanda, CA) committed to Washington


3-star OL Brady Aiello (Lafayette, CA) committed to Oregon