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The PAC12 THREAD v.2

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I'm not saying have no rules at all, but the purpose of many of them is to help the lower tier teams cope with their severe disadvantage. WSU will never have the money or attraction of USC and no regulations will ever come close to balancing that out. But WSU will always have a massive advantage over middle Tennessee or even their neighbor, Idaho.

The so-called power 5 should break off and have a new governing set of rules that reflects a much much higher floor than those lower tier mid majors. Keep the scholarship caps and the basic recruiting rules, but allow things like these camps and even more compensation for players.

I just don't think we need more regulations when the NCAA can't fairly deal with the ones they are already in charge of.

Really can't argue with any of this. Excellent points.
 

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I agree that the playing field isn't even and never has been, but that doesn't mean you don't even it out where you can.


For example, a program like USC is pretty much always going to attract more talented players than a school like Utah because of "built in advantages". Nothing wrong with that advantage, it's kids making choices based on traditions, history, location, number of hot chicks, etc., etc. There isn't much that can be done about that.


However, by capping how much a program can spend on these camps, it keeps a school like USC from adding to it's "built in advantages".

I also agree about bringing back "real football". I'm all for player safety, but some of the rule changes are pretty ridiculous and I can see where they can actually lead to more injury.

Wait a minute, have you ever been to Utah? There is some very hot women that live there, playing the hottest women card live in S. Cali is a little to much, since some of those women are really men...
 

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Pac lagging behind in returning experience overall according to Phil Steele. Of course when the Pac also leads the nation in QB talent it doesn't mean the conference will be down overall. In fact there is no reliable measurement that corresponds to success in terms of experience.

Still, here's Steele's figures.

Team.............Lettermen returning..Lettermen lost..Total..Percent..Rank
Colorado...............57...........................18.............75.....76.00...18
Oregon State.........53...........................21.............74.....71.62...43
Washington ...........48...........................20.............68.....70.59...50
Arizona.................45...........................19.............64.....70.31...T-54
Stanford...............45............................19.............64.....70.31...T-54
UCLA....................52............................23............75......69.33...68
USC.....................48............................23.............71.....67.61...85
Utah....................53............................28.............81.....65.43...98
Oregon.................41............................23.............64.....64.06...102
California..............50............................31.............81.....61.73...113
Washington St.......36............................23.............59.....61.02...115
Arizona State........37............................28.............65.....56.92...124
 

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Wait a minute, have you ever been to Utah? There is some very hot women that live there, playing the hottest women card live in S. Cali is a little to much, since some of those women are really men...

Yes. All one needs to do is walk along any beach in SoCal and it's no comparison.

Plus, it's easier to tell which one's are really women.:lol:
 

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Conference O line experience by number of games played:

North -
UW 124
Oregon 107
Cal 51
OSU 42
WSU 33
Stanford 15 (yikes lol)

South
Arizona 104
UCLA 88
ASU 60
Colorado 59
USC 53
Utah 46
 

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Yes. All one needs to do is walk along any beach in SoCal and it's no comparison.

Plus, it's easier to tell which one's are really women.:lol:

At least you have a 70% chance of landing in bed with a virgin in Utah. That's a great percentage if ya ask me? :nod:
 

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At least you have a 70% chance of landing in bed with a virgin in Utah. That's a great percentage if ya ask me? :nod:

Let's see, dumpy virgin or hot chick that knows how to please.

Decisions... decisions... decisions...
 

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Pac lagging behind in returning experience overall according to Phil Steele. Of course when the Pac also leads the nation in QB talent it doesn't mean the conference will be down overall. In fact there is no reliable measurement that corresponds to success in terms of experience.

Still, here's Steele's figures.

Team.............Lettermen returning..Lettermen lost..Total..Percent..Rank
Colorado...............57...........................18.............75.....76.00...18
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Agreed, despite Colorado returning the highest % of lettermen I'm pretty sure not many would like to trade places with Colorado.
 

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Beavs land their class of 2015 QB.

Pro-Style QB James Pensyl (Land O'Lakes H.S., FL). He threw for 2,345 yds and 22 TDs his Junior year. Quite the tall one at 6'7".
 

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OSU gave Pensyl, currently an unranked prospect by Rivals, his first major offer last month. Offensive coordinator John Garrett visited Pensyl twice during the spring evaluation period before Pensyl opted to take an unofficial visit.

"There were a couple of things I really loved about Oregon State," Pensyl told BeaverBlitz.com. "The coaching staff is amazing and I loved the town. I love the atmosphere. The people out here are great.
 
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Conference O line experience by number of games played:

North -
UW 124
Oregon 107
Cal 51
OSU 42
WSU 33
Stanford 15 (yikes lol)

South
Arizona 104
UCLA 88
ASU 60
Colorado 59
USC 53
Utah 46

Steele has Oregon as #1 O line in the nation.
 

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Oregon lost a 3 star DB to transfer in Eric Aoako.
Oregon picks up a 3 star DB for class of 15.
 

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Steele has Oregon as #1 O line in the nation.

Well sure, number of games of combined experience doesn't equal better. It does make you raise an eyebrow over Stanford's line, but that's about it. I do like the experience UW has on both lines. Neither are a concern of ours.
 

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Ya I know. Just surprised to see #1 next to o line unit.
 

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Well sure, number of games of combined experience doesn't equal better. It does make you raise an eyebrow over Stanford's line, but that's about it. I do like the experience UW has on both lines. Neither are a concern of ours.
Oregon 5 returning starters on the line
Stanford 1 returning starter.
 

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Oregon 5 returning starters on the line
Stanford 1 returning starter.


I don't know about Oregons O line but given a choice I'd take Stanfords O line over any ones in the country in a heartbeat. I know they have lost some bodies but they have recruited that unit like no one else the past four years and I'm sure last years young backup who will be a starter this year is most likely a future NFL player.
 
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