The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[RegentDenali]

Petersen is a disciplinarian. He was known for giving kids with a background a chance, but if they screwed up, they were out.

I'll leave this up to him. He'll do what's best.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Bout time they have a neutral site game, having it on a campus made them look like conference USA

 

[tabascojet]

santa clara isnt san fran....id expect the stadium to be as empty as the acc ccg games

 

[trojanfan12]

The game should only be in San Diego if the Chargers get a new stadium. Considering they have been fighting with the city and threatening to move for years, who knows how that will play out.


Besides, as has been pointed out, the 49ers new stadium will be more centrally located. For most PAC fans it would be about a 6-8 hour drive or a 1-2 hour flight.

 

[Codaxx]

I liked the home field aspect of it. College games are just better on campus. That is jsut a fact. Also is just intelligent to reward the team with a better season a home game. Going to a neutral site you increase the odds of a BS champion and make the game environment worse, outside of that its a great idea.

 

[Vitamike]

Also some potential good news with the continued standoff between Pac12 network and Direct TV.

AT&T is in advanced negotiations to buy DTV. While getting deal approved by the Feds could take months to a year if completed, AT&T does have a carrier agreement with PAC12 net.

Nothing could be happening soon, but if the deal does happen, DTV could finally start showing PAC12 net.

And those of us who are AT&T subscribers, I'm guessing, would now have the opportunity to get the NFL Sunday Ticket!

 

[eaterfan]

BCS is done. It's now the playoff committee making the choices for the playoff teams, not the different local bowl reps basing their choices primarily on how many hotel rooms the teams fans will fill.

What I'm most concerned is about is will the playoff committee truly make strength of schedule one of the primary criteria for who gets in. The BCS was an absolutely fucking joke when it came to that. Strength of schedule didn't matter in the least. If you were part of tSEC, you got the auto bump up the list no matter how many cupcake OOC home games you booked, and ended up playing 2 truly high ranked teams per season.

I just figure home field advantage gives the first place team a better chance to win. Lets say there is a one loss Big 12 team or a two loss SEC team looking to make the playoff as a second place team. Oregon is playing a 2 loss UCLA team it has already beat. Better chance for Oregon to win in Oregon than in Levi's Stadium. UCLA wins and now what are the odds that either Oregon or UCLA make the playoff over teams with similar records from those other conferences?

 

[WhiteMamba]

Now if Oregon gets to PAC title game they will have a small advantage. They will have already played there.

Cal vs Oregon in Oct @ Levi's Stadium

 

[WizardHawk]

I just figure home field advantage gives the first place team a better chance to win. Lets say there is a one loss Big 12 team or a two loss SEC team looking to make the playoff as a second place team. Oregon is playing a 2 loss UCLA team it has already beat. Better chance for Oregon to win in Oregon than in Levi's Stadium. UCLA wins and now what are the odds that either Oregon or UCLA make the playoff over teams with similar records from those other conferences?

Well that was the original justification for doing it that way. Best chance to get a Pac team represented in the BCS or now the playoff. Problem is the logistics proved to be too much of a problem. Attendance was well down at the last one and the sudden nature of springing these on a local community means no advanced planning is possible.

By having it in a known location they can now sell tickets all year for it.

Football wise the current system is best. No doubt. Money wise it was a total flop.

 

[trojanfan12]

Well that was the original justification for doing it that way. Best chance to get a Pac team represented in the BCS or now the playoff. Problem is the logistics proved to be too much of a problem. Attendance was well down at the last one and the sudden nature of springing these on a local community means no advanced planning is possible.

By having it in a known location they can now sell tickets all year for it.

Football wise the current system is best. No doubt. Money wise it was a total flop.

I can't help but wonder if some of that was because of playing the game on Friday.

 

[HuskerOC]

How about Vegas?

 

[eaterfan]

Well that was the original justification for doing it that way. Best chance to get a Pac team represented in the BCS or now the playoff. Problem is the logistics proved to be too much of a problem. Attendance was well down at the last one and the sudden nature of springing these on a local community means no advanced planning is possible.

By having it in a known location they can now sell tickets all year for it.

Football wise the current system is best. No doubt. Money wise it was a total flop.

I think this is only true for corporate tickets. I'm not going to SF to watch Arizona play in the championship game so I'm waiting until the game is finalized. Now I have to book a flight the week of and get hotel rooms and put in time off from work all the week of. Great work Pac.

 

[trojanfan12]

Btw, welcome to page 500!!

 

[WhiteMamba]

And 8000 coming up. We will be well into v.3 by the time season starts

 

[WizardHawk]

I think this is only true for corporate tickets. I'm not going to SF to watch Arizona play in the championship game so I'm waiting until the game is finalized. Now I have to book a flight the week of and get hotel rooms and put in time off from work all the week of. Great work Pac.

There will be people who do buy tickets ahead of time. Think of all of the 'natty on a platter' guys who like to put the cart before the horse. 2

I'm sure if there is any thought that those tickets will be of value that the typical ticket brokers will suck up a bunch looking to profit off last second buyers.

 

[WizardHawk]

And 8000 coming up. We will be well into v.3 by the time season starts

2000 posts in 3 months? Good luck with that.



You know how dead this place gets in the dog days of summer. Or is that dawg days?

 

[trojanfan12]

There will be people who do buy tickets ahead of time. Think of all of the 'natty on a platter' guys who like to put the cart before the horse. 2

I'm sure if there is any thought that those tickets will be of value that the typical ticket brokers will suck up a bunch looking to profit off last second buyers.

Heck, I'd buy them ahead of time and if USC didn't make it, I'd either still go just for the experience of it or find someone to sell my tickets to.

 

[Not Neutral]

Well that was the original justification for doing it that way. Best chance to get a Pac team represented in the BCS or now the playoff. Problem is the logistics proved to be too much of a problem. Attendance was well down at the last one and the sudden nature of springing these on a local community means no advanced planning is possible.

By having it in a known location they can now sell tickets all year for it.

Football wise the current system is best. No doubt. Money wise it was a total flop.

Not exactly true. Who played who and where was not decided until ASU beat UCLA on the road the last game of the season. Even so, the game was held at Sun Devil Stadium on time and attended by the largest crowd of the series, 69,000 + which is more than the new world class stadium holds (Levi's Stadium — a $1.2 billion facility that seats 68,000). Everything is driven by the bucks and while we all want them bucks, and IMO there are things which we should do which do not necessarily maximize the bucks. I think giving the game to the team with the best record was one of them. I also think that it's a big advantage to a team trying to make the BCS playoffs which could make more money to the PAC in the end. I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that money wise it was a total flop, but if that is true I'm sure whatever caused it could be quickly fixed. I also think the community who supports and fields the PAC champ deserves the benefits, financial and otherwise, that goes with hosting the game. Those with the votes disagree and that's what we pay them for, but I don't like it.

 

[Vitamike]

Not exactly true. Who played who and where was not decided until ASU beat UCLA on the road the last game of the season. Even so, the game was held at Sun Devil Stadium on time and attended by the largest crowd of the series, 69,000 + which is more than the new world class stadium holds (Levi's Stadium — a $1.2 billion facility that seats 68,000). Everything is driven by the bucks and while we all want them bucks, and IMO there are things which we should do which do not necessarily maximize the bucks. I think giving the game to the team with the best record was one of them. I also think that it's a big advantage to a team trying to make the BCS playoffs which could make more money to the PAC in the end. I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that money wise it was a total flop, but if that is true I'm sure whatever caused it could be quickly fixed. I also think the community who supports and fields the PAC champ deserves the benefits, financial and otherwise, that goes with hosting the game. Those with the votes disagree and that's what we pay them for, but I don't like it.

One of your best posts on these here boards NN!!

 

[RegentDenali]

PAC12 commish Larry Scott held an ceremony at Levi's stadium today announcing an initial 3 year deal for it to host the PAC12 championship game.