The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[Bandwagonbo2]

Except no legitimate UGA fan actually said that

You will never convince him of that, he hears selectively it appears.

 

[WizardHawk]

When people tell Smiles BSU has been gaming the system for years to be ranked higher than their body of work warrants he tells us (ad nauseam) that they simply play the schedule the big dogs allow them to play (because we are too afraid to add them to a power conference) and they would love to add more meat to their schedule, but everyone is too afraid to come play them.

... then he accuses Bama of gaming the system.

That couldn't have the rich buttery taste of irony any more if it was served up by paula fucking deen.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

When people tell Smiles BSU has been gaming the system for years to be ranked higher than their body of work warrants he tells us (ad nauseam) that they simply play the schedule the big dogs allow them to play (because we are too afraid to add them to a power conference) and they would love to add more meat to their schedule, but everyone is too afraid to come play them.

... then he accuses Bama of gaming the system.

That couldn't have the rich buttery taste of irony any more if it was served up by paula fucking deen.

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[mcnabb7542]

McNabb- Lol I would rock a Ed Reynolds Eagles jersey sure. You called this months ago, wanna go to Vegas with me, I could use a man like you at the Black Jack table.

I was amazed at Yankey's drop, but more irritating was Skov going undrafted. Prior to his knee injury 2 years ago he was a potential 1st rounder. He had a bum leg at the combine and pro day's so his times were awful, I still think he will be a starter in the next couple of years.

For the UDFA from LSJU as of right now-
Skov goes to the 9ers
Wilkerson (Gaffney's back up) is with the Colts (Stanford East) already.
Hewwit (Fullback/TE) to the Bengals.
Josh Mauro DE and Devon Carrington FS to the Steelers.

I expect Jarek Lancaster LB and Khalil Wilkes (C) to get picked up soon as well.

Fuck we have a ton of holes to fill next year.

Yankey's fall was a shocker. I thought he would have gone higher....
Skov I feel sorry for, this guy was a leader on one of the toughest defenses in the Nation, the plus side he lands in SF and will get good coaching and could very well stick with this team...

 

[socaljim242]

Wow, you really still dont get it do you, it appears to me that reading comprehension is not a strong suit of yours.

Playing a neutral site game is not playing at home no matter how many times you say it. It is for all intents and purposes a neutral site game that is played away from the "home" stadium of both teams. I know you cannot possibly be this stupid, which leads me to believe you must either be the biggest asshole troll on this board or fucking with me intentionally. This is the last time i will respond to you as you appear to be on the same level thought wise as The Authority and not many around here like him either. I made my stance clear and its apparent that you just cannot grasp it.

Look at the numbers of what goes out for the Athletic department at Alabama versus how much of it comes back to them from football revenue plus a profit each year and you will see why its a no brainer to play one Neutral site game per year. The rest of the OOC i have not commented on to you nor will I because you wouldnt grasp that explanation any better than you got this one.

Dude you played FOUR neutral games in ten years. Two of them a three hour drive from your home stadium when the other team was coming two three states away. So while it's cowardly it's just four games in ten years and really only two were actually neutral games. If USC scheduled TCU in San Diego would it really be a neutral game or would USC have practically the same advantage as they did playing in LA?
You still try to spin the money part. yes we get it. Alabama makes more money playing North Texas and Chattanooga at home every year and they would make less playing Cal or Boston college or Northwestern at their stadium. But if they just wanna make money then stop playing big boy football if you wanna do that. Three road OCC games in ten years. That's pathetic no matter what excuse you give. Most schools do that in two years.

 

[UTVolCountry]

Guys! Guys! GUYS!!!

 

[wazzu31]

Fail button - YouTube

The LOB is great and all but Arizona is right there with them now, Bucannon is twice the play Chancellor was coming out of college. Peterson is right there with Sherman, they don't have an Earl but they got a better Kam now in Deone.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Thoughts on draft.

Eagles reached on Duck and PAC guys. I think they can succeed but have added pressure.

Going into draft I thought Black Mamba would be a bust. But he fell into one of a handful of teams/Coaching staffs where he may work in the Chiefs.

Sankey has a golden opportunity in Tennessee.

Oakland surprised the hell out of me with a very good draft.

Just thoughts for now, I am sure I will have more later.

 

[smilesid]

Socal Jim, five stars for choking Bandwagon on his own words. As for Georgia fans, Law Dawg was very vocal about this one over at CBS, as my memory serves, but I'm sure that his memory will be faulty. Typical, SEC fans remind me of the Bourbon kings of France, they learned nothing, they forgot nothing. I know, totally unfair use historical analogies or to assume that an SEC fan knows the difference between a French dynasty and a bottle of Jim Beam.

True to form, our friends are trying like HELL to deflect from the issue of this thread, one that they can't possibly defend, because its ABSOLUTELY factually true.

1. The SEC plays only an 8 game conference schedule, 7 of those games being against the same foes every year, which means that the top teams in their respective divisions will often not face top teams from the other. Last year, Alabama didn't play Florida, SC or Georgia, for example. This is not an opinion, nor an argument, it's simply stating the truth.

2. The SEC plays more FCS schools than any other major conference. That's a fact, and obviously, the fans of the various schools aren't upset enough about it to complain very loud, since this practice seems to be set to continue into the foreseeable future.

3. The SEC plays more non conference home games than any other major conference. And they also play a lot of so-called neutral site games in which by geography and familiarity of venue are hardly neutral if the number of fans in the stands and number of times those teams play in those venues is any indication. Again, this is simply stating a fact.

So, do tell me, what in these above points is factually wrong?

 

[smilesid]

And bless you heart, Bandwagon, I thought that Paula gives you wet dreams.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Thoughts on draft.

Eagles reached on Duck and PAC guys. I think they can succeed but have added pressure.

Going into draft I thought Black Mamba would be a bust. But he fell into one of a handful of teams/Coaching staffs where he may work in the Chiefs.

Sankey has a golden opportunity in Tennessee.

Oakland surprised the hell out of me with a very good draft.

Just thoughts for now, I am sure I will have more later.

A year ago I would have agreed with you on that comment and well given a draft rank of

But I believe in Chipper, granted I was about to pull my hair out when he took two wide outs before addressing the secondary, but they got a good haul, (even with the Ducks he drafted sucks to say that)

 

[LawDawg]

Socal Jim, five stars for choking Bandwagon on his own words. As for Georgia fans, Law Dawg was very vocal about this one over at CBS, as my memory serves, but I'm sure that his memory will be faulty.

As usual you are full of shit. I would never deny that UGa playing in Atlanta is the equivalent to a home game against a team from Idaho. And, after that game I was very gracious in defeat that we got our asses handed to us that night. Even as you continue to harp on one of your few meaningful wins some three years later, I haven't changed my opinion. But, you are here making up stuff you say I said three years ago. I truly am going to enjoy BSU's continued descent into mediocrity (although an argument can be made that you never were more than mediocre playing a piss poor schedule). But, go ahead and keep making shit up. You've been doing it so long here, people don't even read your shit any more.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Yet Oregon has played an FCS team every year since 2010

Well when you get big 12 and SEC power houses backing out on you those FCS games happen.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Dude you played FOUR neutral games in ten years. Two of them a three hour drive from your home stadium when the other team was coming two three states away. So while it's cowardly it's just four games in ten years and really only two were actually neutral games. If USC scheduled TCU in San Diego would it really be a neutral game or would USC have practically the same advantage as they did playing in LA?
You still try to spin the money part. yes we get it. Alabama makes more money playing North Texas and Chattanooga at home every year and they would make less playing Cal or Boston college or Northwestern at their stadium. But if they just wanna make money then stop playing big boy football if you wanna do that. Three road OCC games in ten years. That's pathetic no matter what excuse you give. Most schools do that in two years.

And again you still dont get it and dont read other posts in this thread apparently, only the ones speaking directly to you.

The neutral site games are the only ones i have spoken about since my first post in here. I am not a fan of the other three games we play but can atleast justify the two FBS level lower tier games we play. I do not condone and have voiced my opinion to the University about the FCS game. My response back was what i expected it to be. The Neutral site games are money makers and thats all I have spoken about, but you keep rambling on about the other OOC as if thats what i am referring to and why you keep failing to grasp anything at all.

Reread my comments to Smiles that he didnt respond to because he had no way to twist his way out of it, you will see what the SEC is required to do under its current scheduling rules and Bama fulfills that obligation every year. Add in that The University of Alabama coach is the only one in the SEC that has consistently voted yes to a nine game in conference schedule and you might just see that you are placing your hate and disdain in the wrong area. Oh, i get it, be pissed at the biggest name on the block, the one bully you cant hope to beat. I do get that, but lets lay it all on the line here. The University of Alabama AD and coach(sometimes) make the schedule, not the fans and until the SEC hierarchy get inline on the nine game, Saban cannot make them do it. So get the fuck off Saban and Alabama when its 13 other teams that should be getting your attention as well, not just one that you seem to be wholely concerned with.

And lastly I will ask you this. How many teams from the PAC or the B1G or Big 12 or the ACC are playing two of the marquee Big 5 conference teams OOC per year...every year? is it a big number like the population of Rhode Island, or a small number like say the number of BCS titles won by the PAC in its existence, or could it be in between some place but closer to the bottom than top number I suggested. I will let you look a that up for us.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Socal Jim, five stars for choking Bandwagon on his own words. As for Georgia fans, Law Dawg was very vocal about this one over at CBS, as my memory serves, but I'm sure that his memory will be faulty. Typical, SEC fans remind me of the Bourbon kings of France, they learned nothing, they forgot nothing. I know, totally unfair use historical analogies or to assume that an SEC fan knows the difference between a French dynasty and a bottle of Jim Beam.

True to form, our friends are trying like HELL to deflect from the issue of this thread, one that they can't possibly defend, because its ABSOLUTELY factually true.

1. The SEC plays only an 8 game conference schedule, 7 of those games being against the same foes every year, which means that the top teams in their respective divisions will often not face top teams from the other. Last year, Alabama didn't play Florida, SC or Georgia, for example. This is not an opinion, nor an argument, it's simply stating the truth.

2. The SEC plays more FCS schools than any other major conference. That's a fact, and obviously, the fans of the various schools aren't upset enough about it to complain very loud, since this practice seems to be set to continue into the foreseeable future.

3. The SEC plays more non conference home games than any other major conference. And they also play a lot of so-called neutral site games in which by geography and familiarity of venue are hardly neutral if the number of fans in the stands and number of times those teams play in those venues is any indication. Again, this is simply stating a fact.

So, do tell me, what in these above points is factually wrong?

Except he didnt use any of my words, he embellished and added things in that didnt fit into anything i stated. To put it into true perspective, he lied, or twisted my words to suit his bull shit diatribe that ended in fail, much like you have done repeatedly.

Now if you notice I agreed that the FCS games are bullshit and have stated so on many occasions. The Neutral site games have been split recently between Atlanta and Dallas. Clearly Dallas is not home territory and over 600 miles away. The recruiting base in that state exists of Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas again and then the rest. We have been pulling recruits out recently due to those games, so it pays to play consistently in other areas too. Faulting that shows why your school will always be a small fish in a big pond hoping not to get eaten by the bigger fish. What i have seen of Saban is that he knows where to recruit players from and Texas is one of those spots.

Now lets ask the question of why does it matter if Alabama plays a neutral site game each year against a top flight team from one of the Big 5 conferences? I notice that many of your big 5 teams start their years with onionhead state or grabmyass U and dont take a chance on losing until they start playing week 4 in conference games. I've even seen some marquee teams lose week one or two recently to lower tier or FCS teams. Atleast i can say my team has played a top conference team in week one most of the years recently while many other teams are playing no one until week four. My team played a conference game week two of their schedule last year and a top ranked team to boot, while others had still not played a soul. I notice you like Florida, SC and Georgia to be on a schedule, which is out of the hands of the people at Alabama by the way, but rest assured we have one of them this year as its time in the rotation for them to come around again. And if it was up to Saban, the SEC would be in a nine game schedule now, but you fail to mention that also. Guess credit where credit is due is not your style huh? And by the way, you're wrong, The West plays 6 West opponents per year and two from the east, not 7 same opponents like you stated. But you dont mind being wrong do you, i've noticed that recently in your posts. Tell you what, you and Socaljim get together and see if you can twist and spin a few more incorrect posts and come back at me if you want, I got all the time in the world to play this game.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

As usual you are full of shit. I would never deny that UGa playing in Atlanta is the equivalent to a home game against a team from Idaho. And, after that game I was very gracious in defeat that we got our asses handed to us that night. Even as you continue to harp on one of your few meaningful wins some three years later, I haven't changed my opinion. But, you are here making up stuff you say I said three years ago. I truly am going to enjoy BSU's continued descent into mediocrity (although an argument can be made that you never were more than mediocre playing a piss poor schedule). But, go ahead and keep making shit up. You've been doing it so long here, people don't even read your shit any more.

THIS

 

[TigerBait1971]

Ah.

I need a thread like this to remember why I bail during the off season.

May God bless you all!

 

[WizardHawk]

As usual you are full of shit. I would never deny that UGa playing in Atlanta is the equivalent to a home game against a team from Idaho. And, after that game I was very gracious in defeat that we got our asses handed to us that night. Even as you continue to harp on one of your few meaningful wins some three years later, I haven't changed my opinion. But, you are here making up stuff you say I said three years ago. I truly am going to enjoy BSU's continued descent into mediocrity (although an argument can be made that you never were more than mediocre playing a piss poor schedule). But, go ahead and keep making shit up. You've been doing it so long here, people don't even read your shit any more.

He sure is better in defeat than in victory. I'll give you that. Ask him how he acted after that game BSU beat Georgia and then ask him how UW fans treated him after they got smacked down to open last season. Both teams talked a lot of smack going into the game as expected and pretty much no UW fan beat any of them up after that loss.

That's why I say I kind of hope boise ends up returning as reading his rants full of drunken power after their one or two wins is entertaining at least.

 

[WizardHawk]

The LOB is great and all but Arizona is right there with them now, Bucannon is twice the play Chancellor was coming out of college. Peterson is right there with Sherman, they don't have an Earl but they got a better Kam now in Deone.

You can't claim anything until they do it on the field. Just how it is. Your assessment of what you perceive them to be doesn't mean shit. Go out and win the division and get somewhere in the playoffs then talk. Until then it means nothing.

As a coug you should know that. I mean words are all you have right?

 

[smilesid]

Reread my comments to Smiles that he didnt respond to because he had no way to twist his way out of it, you will see what the SEC is required to do under its current scheduling rules and Bama fulfills that obligation every year.

Oh, I responded, numerous times, and you're sure the one to talk about twist. Those SEC "rules" are precisely the problem, and Alabama is doing the absolute MINIMUM.

Again, answer the question. Is it correct that Bama plays an FCS team EVERY year? (hell, last year two unless you want to split hairs about G. State) Is it correct that the SEC IC schedule is a set 7 game with only one round robin match against the other division? Is it correct that Alabama and most of the SEC schools play 3/4 of their non-conference games at home most years?

Those "neutral" site games would not be such a big deal, if they weren't so obviously a way to avoid going on the road for true road games. If Alabama went to some major school stadium on the road and then had a friendly set up in Atlanta, no one would complain, but for Alabama it is simply fulfilling that minimum rule, by playing someone they know they can beat in a supportive locale, one that Saban wants his players to know, since the SEC Champ game is held there. As the Church Lady would say,