The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[trojanfan12]

I can't speak for others here, but that's total BS. Hell, the team I root for has no chance at the title and I doubt USC fans are that concerned at this time about it as well.

Adding another game improves your conferences SOS and would require everyone else to keep theirs in mind as they look at their own OOC practices each year.

For your statement to be true the other fans up here posting would have to be as obsessed at getting titles no matter how easy the road is as you are.

You do know that USC is one of only a couple of schools to never play a FCS level team right? They won several championships without the need to play fluff teams before rivalry games and without the need to play 3 crappy teams to inflate their win/loss record. They are likely just saying why can't your conference do that as well. If they follow your logic they should be dumping ND every year and play terrible teams so they too can have an easy road to the playoffs. They don't want that. We don't want that.

Exactly. I've said before, I ultimately don't care if conferences play 8 IC games or 9 IC games (although I prefer 9). Since every BCS conference team is essentially competing for the same prize, I want to see an even playing field.

To me, that means each BCS conference plays the same number of IC games, plays a similar OOC schedule and travels about the same amount.

Right now, it's an uneven playing field.

 

[WestEndVol]

Made a list of top FBS conferences and the number of FCS teams that they've played in the last 10 years (decided to include this years schedule).

AAC (10 members)
UCF (6)
Louisville (8)
Cincinnati (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Delaware State & Fordham)
Houston (7)
SMU (6)
Connecticut (9)
Rutgers (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Howard & Texas Southern)
South Florida (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Wofford & Charleston Southern)
Temple (6)
Memphis (9)
Conference total: 83

ACC (14 members)
Florida State (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Murray State & Savannah State) and '08 (Western Carolina & Tennessee-Chattanooga)
Clemson (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (South Carolina State & Citadel) and '08 (South Carolina State & Citadel)
Syracuse (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Maine & Colgate)
Boston College (9)
Maryland (8)
Wake Forest (7)
NC State (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '11 (Liberty & South Alabama) and '09 (Murray State & Gardner-Webb)
Duke (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Richmond & North Carolina Central)
Virginia Tech (8)
Miami (8)
Georgia Tech (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Elon & Alabama A&M) and '09 (Jacksonville St. & Gardner-Webb)
North Carolina (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Citadel & Georgia Southern)
Pittsburgh (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Youngstown State & Gardner-Webb)
Virginia (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in (Richmond & VMI)
Conference total: 127

Big 12 (10 members)
Baylor (10)
Oklahoma (3)
Oklahoma St. (8)
Texas (1)
Kansas St. (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (UMass & Tennessee Tech)
Texas Tech (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '08 (Eastern Washington & UMass) and in '05 (Sam Houston State & Indiana State)
WVU (9)
TCU (8)
Iowa St. (10)
Kansas (10)
Conference total: 81

Big 10 (12 members)
Ohio St. (3)
Wisconsin (9)
Penn State. (5)
Indiana (10)
Illinois (9)
Purdue (8)
Michigan St. (5)
Iowa (9)
Nebraska (7)
Minnesota (9)
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (9)
Conference total: 86

Pac 12 (12 members)
Stanford (3)
Oregon (7)
Washington (4)
Oregon St. (8)
Washington St. (7)
California (8)
Arizona St. (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Portland State & Northern Arizona)
UCLA (0)
USC (0)
Arizona (8)
Utah (6)
Colorado (5) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Central Arkansas & Charleston Southern)
Conference total: 65

SEC (14 members)
Missouri (9)
South Carolina (9)
Georgia (9)
Vanderbilt (8)
Florida (8)
Tennessee (5)
Kentucky (10)
Auburn (9)
Alabama (7)
LSU (7)
Texas A&M (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (South Carolina State & Sam Houston State)
Mississippi St. (10)
Ole Miss (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Southeastern Louisiana & Northern Arizona)
Arkansas (10)
Conference total: 120

So props to the PAC 12 - USC and UCLA in particular. And looks like NC State and TTU are guilty of playing the most FCS teams, over the last 10 years.

 

[WestEndVol]

Yah, I was bored..

 

[WestEndVol]

Messed up on Virginia, should've added "2010".

Also, guess BSU is the only team in the MWC worth mentioning and they've played 6.

 

[TexasExes98]

Made a list of top FBS conferences and the number of FCS teams that they've played in the last 10 years (decided to include this years schedule).

AAC (10 members)
UCF (6)
Louisville (8)
Cincinnati (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Delaware State & Fordham)
Houston (7)
SMU (6)
Connecticut (9)
Rutgers (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Howard & Texas Southern)
South Florida (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Wofford & Charleston Southern)
Temple (6)
Memphis (9)
Conference total: 83

ACC (14 members)
Florida State (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Murray State & Savannah State) and '08 (Western Carolina & Tennessee-Chattanooga)
Clemson (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (South Carolina State & Citadel) and '08 (South Carolina State & Citadel)
Syracuse (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Maine & Colgate)
Boston College (9)
Maryland (8)
Wake Forest (7)
NC State (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '11 (Liberty & South Alabama) and '09 (Murray State & Gardner-Webb)
Duke (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Richmond & North Carolina Central)
Virginia Tech (8)
Miami (8)
Georgia Tech (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Elon & Alabama A&M) and '09 (Jacksonville St. & Gardner-Webb)
North Carolina (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Citadel & Georgia Southern)
Pittsburgh (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Youngstown State & Gardner-Webb)
Virginia (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in (Richmond & VMI)
Conference total: 127

Big 12 (10 members)
Baylor (10)
Oklahoma (3)
Oklahoma St. (8)
Texas (1)
Kansas St. (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (UMass & Tennessee Tech)
Texas Tech (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '08 (Eastern Washington & UMass) and in '05 (Sam Houston State & Indiana State)
WVU (9)
TCU (8)
Iowa St. (10)
Kansas (10)
Conference total: 81

Big 10 (12 members)
Ohio St. (3)
Wisconsin (9)
Penn State. (5)
Indiana (10)
Illinois (9)
Purdue (8)
Michigan St. (5)
Iowa (9)
Nebraska (7)
Minnesota (9)
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (9)
Conference total: 86

Pac 12 (12 members)
Stanford (3)
Oregon (7)
Washington (4)
Oregon St. (8)
Washington St. (7)
California (8)
Arizona St. (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Portland State & Northern Arizona)
UCLA (0)
USC (0)
Arizona (8)
Utah (6)
Colorado (5) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Central Arkansas & Charleston Southern)
Conference total: 65

SEC (14 members)
Missouri (9)
South Carolina (9)
Georgia (9)
Vanderbilt (8)
Florida (8)
Tennessee (5)
Kentucky (10)
Auburn (9)
Alabama (7)
LSU (7)
Texas A&M (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (South Carolina State & Sam Houston State)
Mississippi St. (10)
Ole Miss (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Southeastern Louisiana & Northern Arizona)
Arkansas (10)
Conference total: 120

So props to the PAC 12 - USC and UCLA in particular. And looks like NC State and TTU are guilty of playing the most FCS teams, over the last 10 years.

And Texas. Texas has only played 1 FCS school in the last 10 years and that's only b/c Utah backed out of a home and home and we had to replace at the last minute. Anyway, I'm recapping a lot of these posts and it looks like UDUB and Boise fans(s) are ridiculing SEC fans b/c their teams play FCS schools and make it sound as if these message board posters are the reason why their SEC team is playing FCS schools; like the fans and message board posters have anything to do with the scheduling. Also, you have BSU fan talking trash about SEC scheduling when it's a fact BSU plays a shit schedule every single year; so I don't understand why a BSU fan would talk shit about anybody's schedule. Some hypocrisy in this thread, fo sho!

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Made a list of top FBS conferences and the number of FCS teams that they've played in the last 10 years (decided to include this years schedule).

AAC (10 members)
UCF (6)
Louisville (8)
Cincinnati (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Delaware State & Fordham)
Houston (7)
SMU (6)
Connecticut (9)
Rutgers (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Howard & Texas Southern)
South Florida (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Wofford & Charleston Southern)
Temple (6)
Memphis (9)
Conference total: 83

ACC (14 members)
Florida State (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Murray State & Savannah State) and '08 (Western Carolina & Tennessee-Chattanooga)
Clemson (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (South Carolina State & Citadel) and '08 (South Carolina State & Citadel)
Syracuse (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Maine & Colgate)
Boston College (9)
Maryland (8)
Wake Forest (7)
NC State (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '11 (Liberty & South Alabama) and '09 (Murray State & Gardner-Webb)
Duke (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Richmond & North Carolina Central)
Virginia Tech (8)
Miami (8)
Georgia Tech (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Elon & Alabama A&M) and '09 (Jacksonville St. & Gardner-Webb)
North Carolina (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Citadel & Georgia Southern)
Pittsburgh (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (Youngstown State & Gardner-Webb)
Virginia (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in (Richmond & VMI)
Conference total: 127

Big 12 (10 members)
Baylor (10)
Oklahoma (3)
Oklahoma St. (8)
Texas (1)
Kansas St. (10) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (UMass & Tennessee Tech)
Texas Tech (12) *Played 2 FCS teams in '08 (Eastern Washington & UMass) and in '05 (Sam Houston State & Indiana State)
WVU (9)
TCU (8)
Iowa St. (10)
Kansas (10)
Conference total: 81

Big 10 (12 members)
Ohio St. (3)
Wisconsin (9)
Penn State. (5)
Indiana (10)
Illinois (9)
Purdue (8)
Michigan St. (5)
Iowa (9)
Nebraska (7)
Minnesota (9)
Michigan (3)
Northwestern (9)
Conference total: 86

Pac 12 (12 members)
Stanford (3)
Oregon (7)
Washington (4)
Oregon St. (8)
Washington St. (7)
California (8)
Arizona St. (9) *Played 2 FCS teams in '10 (Portland State & Northern Arizona)
UCLA (0)
USC (0)
Arizona (8)
Utah (6)
Colorado (5) *Played 2 FCS teams in '13 (Central Arkansas & Charleston Southern)
Conference total: 65

SEC (14 members)
Missouri (9)
South Carolina (9)
Georgia (9)
Vanderbilt (8)
Florida (8)
Tennessee (5)
Kentucky (10)
Auburn (9)
Alabama (7)
LSU (7)
Texas A&M (8) *Played 2 FCS teams in '12 (South Carolina State & Sam Houston State)
Mississippi St. (10)
Ole Miss (11) *Played 2 FCS teams in '09 (Southeastern Louisiana & Northern Arizona)
Arkansas (10)
Conference total: 120

So props to the PAC 12 - USC and UCLA in particular. And looks like NC State and TTU are guilty of playing the most FCS teams, over the last 10 years.

Nice job Vol, you pretty smart for one of the men in orange



Just shows that what we have been saying is true, the SEC is not the biggest offender of this practice and now that the ACC has denied its ninth game, maybe the Pac 12 gomers will attack them also.

 

[UTVolCountry]

Hey we've played the least amount of any SEC team

 

[trojanfan12]

And Texas. Texas has only played 1 FCS school in the last 10 years and that's only b/c Utah backed out of a home and home and we had to replace at the last minute. Anyway, I'm recapping a lot of these posts and it looks like UDUB and Boise fans(s) are ridiculing SEC fans b/c their teams play FCS schools and make it sound as if these message board posters are the reason why their SEC team is playing FCS schools; like the fans and message board posters have anything to do with the scheduling. Also, you have BSU fan talking trash about SEC scheduling when it's a fact BSU plays a shit schedule every single year; so I don't understand why a BSU fan would talk shit about anybody's schedule. Some hypocrisy in this thread, fo sho!

BSU can't control who they play in conference. They have been doing their best to get into a BCS conference and actually joined the Big East before it blew up. They joined even though they are in Idaho and would be a better fit geographically in almost any other BCS conference. They just couldn't get in to any other conference.

They have also been playing at least one BCS level team OOC every season for awhile (2 in 2010) and with the exception of a couple of PAC schools that agreed to home and homes with them, played either in the BCS schools stadium in a "one-off" or in a neutral site game.

Not sure what else they can do at this point.

 

[ericd7633]

The ACC has the best set up of any conference IMO. Using the 8+1 model still accomplishes playing 9 power 5 league opponents and it sets up the opportunity for the ACC schools that don't have a built in rivalry to schedule an appealing game against a non traditional regional school or ND which will bring added exposure if they are on the schedule.

I understand why the Big 12 does a 9 game schedule because of it being a true round Robin and I even understand the pac 12 using a 9 game model because they have for so long and are accustomed to scheduling 3 OOC games per season. The one that doesn't make any sense is the big 10. Another game in the Midwest will do nothing for exposure of the conference. Plus in years when they have 5 road conference games they are basically guaranteeing to not play a game outside that region, which I think is bad.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

The ACC has the best set up of any conference IMO. Using the 8+1 model still accomplishes playing 9 power 5 league opponents and it sets up the opportunity for the ACC schools that don't have a built in rivalry to schedule an appealing game against a non traditional regional school or ND which will bring added exposure if they are on the schedule.

I understand why the Big 12 does a 9 game schedule because of it being a true round Robin and I even understand the pac 12 using a 9 game model because they have for so long and are accustomed to scheduling 3 OOC games per season. The one that doesn't make any sense is the big 10. Another game in the Midwest will do nothing for exposure of the conference. Plus in years when they have 5 road conference games they are basically guaranteeing to not play a game outside that region, which I think is bad.

The SEC has the same thing

 

[TexasExes98]

BSU can't control who they play in conference. They have been doing their best to get into a BCS conference and actually joined the Big East before it blew up. They joined even though they are in Idaho and would be a better fit geographically in almost any other BCS conference. They just couldn't get in to any other conference.

They have also been playing at least one BCS level team OOC every season for awhile (2 in 2010) and with the exception of a couple of PAC schools that agreed to home and homes with them, played either in the BCS schools stadium in a "one-off" or in a neutral site game.

Not sure what else they can do at this point.

I agree, just saying no BSU fan should be running smack towards anybody's schedule, that's all. Regarding BSU, they don't bring anything to the table. Outside of football, do they play any other sports? I'm sure they do, but you don't hear about them. BSU has no TV market to offer a conference, is pretty weak on the academic side and has a weak football stadium, but mainly, there isn't a TV market. There is more to just having a good football program when it comes to receiving an invitation to a big boy conference.

 

[ericd7633]

The SEC has the same thing

Wasn't aware of that. Same as ACC then.

 

[WizardHawk]

And Texas. Texas has only played 1 FCS school in the last 10 years and that's only b/c Utah backed out of a home and home and we had to replace at the last minute. Anyway, I'm recapping a lot of these posts and it looks like UDUB and Boise fans(s) are ridiculing SEC fans b/c their teams play FCS schools and make it sound as if these message board posters are the reason why their SEC team is playing FCS schools; like the fans and message board posters have anything to do with the scheduling. Also, you have BSU fan talking trash about SEC scheduling when it's a fact BSU plays a shit schedule every single year; so I don't understand why a BSU fan would talk shit about anybody's schedule. Some hypocrisy in this thread, fo sho!

So fans who agree with the coaches all across the country that have spoken up in favor of a level playing field are simply ridiculing others?

Just shows that what we have been saying is true, the SEC is not the biggest offender of this practice and now that the ACC has denied its ninth game, maybe the Pac 12 gomers will attack them also.

I know I never said the SEC was the worst. The only think I said was any real solution would have include them. The ACC making a change alone wouldn't impact the Pac at all as they are largely irrelevant anyway. I mean after FSU is what? And FSU plays Florida every year.

Either every conference should go to 8 and we all just accept that the sport is going to stay watered down or we all go to 9 and at least reclaim one of those lost games. I know I'm asking too much to go to 9 and stop all FBS v FCS games, but obviously that would be the ideal for the fans.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

So fans who agree with the coaches all across the country that have spoken up in favor of a level playing field are simply ridiculing others?

I know I never said the SEC was the worst. The only think I said was any real solution would have include them. The ACC making a change alone wouldn't impact the Pac at all as they are largely irrelevant anyway. I mean after FSU is what? And FSU plays Florida every year.

Either every conference should go to 8 and we all just accept that the sport is going to stay watered down or we all go to 9 and at least reclaim one of those lost games. I know I'm asking too much to go to 9 and stop all FBS v FCS games, but obviously that would be the ideal for the fans.

What gripes me is it always turns into an Alabama bashing contest as evidenced in this thread and many others on similar topics when they are not even the worst offender in the SEC, let alone in the NCAA at playing FCS teams over the last 10 years. Whats truly sad is the coach at Alabama is on your side and wanted a nine game conference schedule, but yet poor Alabama gets pounded on like a red headed step child. How successful Alabama has been should not play into any of this, it should be based on sheer numbers as any team in any conference has the ability to do what Alabama is doing with a little coaching, a little luck and a whole lot of talent. By the way, I noticed Bama has played the same number of FCS teams in 10 years as WSU, just food for thought.

 

[socaljim242]

1. Please cite an example of ME ever saying this. I had not even commented on any of the OOC games not Neuttral site games until a few posts ago and have never stated anything of the sort, but I will defer to you since you say you dont have a reading comprehension problem. I will look forward to seeing your proof i stated what you said.

2. Again, please cite an example, you keep putting words in my mouth and what you are posting is simply not true of my posts. My comments on economic reasons stem from my conversations on the neutral site games only and not any other games we play. I can show you several posts that show i do not condone our lower tier teams we play, but that would require you to read and comprehend what I am saying apparently. Maybe I will work later on drawing you a picture so you can grasp it.

3. This one made me LOL and spit coffee. You dont know shit about Saban or Battle, but yet pretend you do and that shows you are grasping. Whats funny about it is the football team supports the entire Athletic Department with a surplus left over to put back into other needs for the school, yet you want them to flush millions for the sake of making piss ants like yourself happy. Laughable that you think they even give a shit about yours or anyone's concerns when it comes to the bottom line for the University.

4. Now the last part shows you dont know shit about what your talking about. Bama has played VT and Clemson in Atlanta. VT is 400 miles away and a very easy drive down the interstate system to Atlanta. Takes about 5 hours or so to get there versus 3 hours for Alabama fans from Tuscaloosa. Pretty even in terms of travel hours and ease, especially for a game like that. Clemson on the other hand is about 120 miles from Atlanta which is for all purposes much more a home game for them than it would be for Alabama. Both teams we played traveled well and represented themselves equally if not more so than Alabama did, but yet that screws with your argument doesnt it, so you make up shit to make yourself feel like you accomplished something. Smiles made a comment that Georgia playing in Atlanta was a home game and they are 69.7 miles from there and Clemson is about 50-60 miles from Athens. I personally have driven from Clemson to downtown Atlanta by the Stadium in less than 2 hours myself. Thats really a home game for Tuscaloosa fans and stacking the deck in our favor huh?

What I get from your posts is you dont see that every team in the SEC has a similar resume, or that every team in the ACC has a similar resume, you only focus on Alabama because of some perceived slight in your past that makes you prejudiced towards Alabama and blind to anything else happening that might be the same or worse. What else I get is you dont read the posts fully, you fly off the handle and see what you want to see, without comprehending what your reading fully.

Newsflash for Bama fan. Every big boy school uses revenue from football to help run other sports. But somehow UCLA and Oregon and Michigan and Michigan State and Oklahoma and Texas and USC still go play big boy schools and sometimes ( hold on to your hat) they actually go play them on the road. I'm sure Alabama /SEC network would make a ton more in advertizing and therefore make more for Alabama if a Alabama actually went and played some decent team on the road.
As for me not knowing what's in Sabans mind or heart . That I'm grasping at straws. What scenario is more likely.

A. Saban and the AD get together planning a future schedule.
AD- " Nick would like to play Oregon State on the road in two years .
Nick- " I'd love to. I've been wanting to play someone where we actually have to get on a plane. But unfortunately we really need to play North Texas at home. They really need the money for the library they are building "

B. AD-" Nick you wanna play Oregon State at all ?"
Nick- "What? Get on a plane for four hours ? Hell no. Why take that chance . Set up Western Kentucky and Western Carolina and make sure you get one of them to come late in November . We can really use another home game we only have eight so far this year."

 

[trojanfan12]

Nice job Vol, you pretty smart for one of the men in orange



Just shows that what we have been saying is true, the SEC is not the biggest offender of this practice and now that the ACC has denied its ninth game, maybe the Pac 12 gomers will attack them also.

Congrats on finishing 2nd to the ACC.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Newsflash for Bama fan. Every big boy school uses revenue from football to help run other sports. But somehow UCLA and Oregon and Michigan and Michigan State and Oklahoma and Texas and USC still go play big boy schools and sometimes ( hold on to your hat) they actually go play them on the road. I'm sure Alabama /SEC network would make a ton more in advertizing and therefore make more for Alabama if a Alabama actually went and played some decent team on the road.
As for me not knowing what's in Sabans mind or heart . That I'm grasping at straws. What scenario is more likely.

A. Saban and the AD get together planning a future schedule.
AD- " Nick would like to play Oregon State on the road in two years .
Nick- " I'd love to. I've been wanting to play someone where we actually have to get on a plane. But unfortunately we really need to play North Texas at home. They really need the money for the library they are building "

B. AD-" Nick you wanna play Oregon State at all ?"
Nick- "What? Get on a plane for four hours ? Hell no. Why take that chance . Set up Western Kentucky and Western Carolina and make sure you get one of them to come late in November . We can really use another home game we only have eight so far this year."

Thanks for proving my points correct, you deflect and twist instead of answering my post when I asked for specific examples of where i stated something. This shows you cant and that you are doing exactly what I stated, twisting and lying to support your argument. Notice you didnt speak on the stacking of the games to our favor due to my proving you wrong. Notice you didnt cite examples of things you stated I had said because there were none. Now we have another conference that has denied the 9 game, where is your outrage at that conference, who by the way has played more FCS teams in the last 10 years than the SEC. Lets see you rail on them, or is it only Alabama that you feel disdain for. Reading comprehension got your tongue?

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Nice job Vol, you pretty smart for one of the men in orange



Just shows that what we have been saying is true, the SEC is not the biggest offender of this practice and now that the ACC has denied its ninth game, maybe the Pac 12 gomers will attack them also.

As soon as the ACC starts winning NCs we will Bo, till then it's SPANK the SEC and the Gumps in particular..120?

Jezuz H Chrysler! What a weak azz conference that SEC is, cept for LS>>>>U!

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Congrats on finishing 2nd to the ACC.

Go on an make jokes, but lets see some posts in the ACC thread same as in here or we will all know its just anti-sec bullshit that drives those who have been in here. The ACC is a bigger offender and plays a similar schedule in terms of style, weaker in terms of strength due to it being the ACC. Lets see if it draws the same ire and crowd or if its played off because its not the SEC.

 

[WizardHawk]

What gripes me is it always turns into an Alabama bashing contest as evidenced in this thread and many others on similar topics when they are not even the worst offender in the SEC, let alone in the NCAA at playing FCS teams over the last 10 years. Whats truly sad is the coach at Alabama is on your side and wanted a nine game conference schedule, but yet poor Alabama gets pounded on like a red headed step child. How successful Alabama has been should not play into any of this, it should be based on sheer numbers as any team in any conference has the ability to do what Alabama is doing with a little coaching, a little luck and a whole lot of talent. By the way, I noticed Bama has played the same number of FCS teams in 10 years as WSU, just food for thought.

1) WSU is barely above FCS level themselves so who cares?
2) I haven't been bashing on Bama. This discussion is about the SEC conference, not any one team within it. Mostly it's beem smiles bashing you.
3) Don't think any of us have denied our own teams/conferences downturn in scheduling. I want to see them improve for all across this whole sport. Trying to make those changes without getting the SEC to go along would prove to be futile.