The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[WhiteMamba]

hmmm, lets see, a Shorthorn, a Gump, a Fusky, and a Smurf.....

Words cant express the stank up in this thread right now....

 

[WhiteMamba]

 

[4down20]

hmmm, lets see, a Shorthorn, a Gump, a Fusky, and a Smurf.....

Words cant express the stank up in this thread right now....

A video can maybe help.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_fRLYT-Yr8]#3 Oregon vs #5 Stanford 2013 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[UTVolCountry]

hmmm, lets see, a Shorthorn, a Gump, a Fusky, and a Smurf.....

Walk into a bar

fify

 

[The Crimson King]

Those teams are not Colorado caliber or even close to being that bad. It's somewhat funny that here we are talking about adding SEC games, when the teams you mention would in some cases be pretty decent/above average teams in other conferences.

Auburn has never been about defense and likely never will. So claiming they are "another great sec defense" is absurd.

Arizona St hasn't really been mid level lately IMO.

And I'm the first to point out Alabama's schedule has been weak the past 2 years, but that's not hardly the entire SEC.

Auburn's never been about defense?

 

[socaljim242]

Oh, so when you play that 1 SEC team it's a big deal. An SEC team most people would call "middle of the pack" at best. But when Alabama plays 8 of them, well that doesn't matter. I see.

You wouldn't love to play Alabama. You just love to claim that because you know it's not going to happen. Why? Because Boise St won't accept their place in the college football world and makes crazy demands for games so they can turn them down and pretend like nobody will play them.

Where is even 1 bit of proof that Alabama won't play Boise St? Or is it more like - Alabama has no reason to play a home and home with a team that can't even sell out their crappy less than 40k seating stadium and yet still demands a payday from the other team as if they are somehow selling the stadium/game.

Face it, the bottom line is Boise St is a 5 cent piece of bubble gum with a $100 price tag. And because nobody is buying it, you just want to sit around and blame everyone else.

You talk about your big 1 game a year as if it's something. Hell, the team you think is so big this year, Alabama plays every year and it's not even one of the top3 opponents of the year, maybe not even top5 opponents.

In fact, the teams you call "cupcakes", you would call your conference games.

So you know, when Alabama is playing a Boise St type schedule, feel free to blow on my nuts again. Until then, I'm just going to keep on assuming that it's just another one of the 3 bullshit paragraphs you post over and over - just as this one was.

Bama fan- you'd have something to stand on if Alabama played some average teams away from home at least once in a while. A Syracuse a Fresno State an Oregon State. Some team who might have a few players . Instead Alabama plays the North texas- Florida Atlantics of the world ONLY at home. So no you don;t play Boise because of their Stadium. You don;t play anything close to a team who might give you a game away from home if you can help it. But it's funny reading you trying to deny this.

 

[outofyourmind]

Why would any team play an away game if they didn't have to.
It's retarded to think they should.
Yeah, that's right, retarded.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Move the Pac CG to a neutral site if it increases revenue and attendance, seems reasonable to me.

 

[wazzu31]

If it's not in Vegas than it should stay as is. Hell the only time it was attended was when it was at Autzen.

Vegas is about the only place that would make sense for fans. There will no need to rush and make plans on getting to Vegas or really to go through the headache of cancelling your rooms and flights since it is still Vegas. It will make more money in Santa Clara but eventually the conference should toss the fans a bone much like the basketball tournament.

How many college students are going to be able to afford to go to Santa Clara? Don't turn our CCG into the SEC game where it's just a bunch of lame alumni that makes the game sounds dead.

 

[WizardHawk]

Right, so then college football should be 12 games at home against shitty teams.

No matter how hard any of you try to defend the current status quo, you only end up looking dumber. None of you are willing to go one step father and drop to 7 games in conference with another home patsy, but yet try to defend why going to 9 is dumb.

If some of you would remove your homer glasses for a second and look at the game as a whole there is no way you could defend these trends. It's just not as good of a product as it could/should be.

 

[Olyduck]

Move the Pac CG to a neutral site if it increases revenue and attendance, seems reasonable to me.

"if"

 

[Codaxx]

Right, so then college football should be 12 games at home against shitty teams.

No matter how hard any of you try to defend the current status quo, you only end up looking dumber. None of you are willing to go one step father and drop to 7 games in conference with another home patsy, but yet try to defend why going to 9 is dumb.

If some of you would remove your homer glasses for a second and look at the game as a whole there is no way you could defend these trends. It's just not as good of a product as it could/should be.

Couple issues with this..
1. Not defend OU, but they do a solid job of scheduling..(time to take a shower now)
2. Your goals and and ADs goals are different. AD is looking for the optimal schedule to bring in revenue. YOu want entertainment.
3. I am all for new Big Boy division in CFB that mandates only games games within the division count, so agree with your desire to change scheduling. (Think 50-70 teams mostly in AQ conference teams). It just is not where we are currently. I have said it before, but until there is ramifications to scheduling, there is no incentive to schedule 12 competitive games.
4. A bit redundant, but this about revenue. Bama is one of the most profitable football programs in the country. They have played in more big bowls than pretty much anyone the last 5 years. Why would they consider changing anything they are doing? If you can answer this question, than you may have a chance to change things.

 

[socaljim242]

Why would any team play an away game if they didn't have to.
It's retarded to think they should.
Yeah, that's right, retarded.

It's called entertainment. It's called sport. Playing crappy teams is not entertaining . I'd rather my team get a scare and maybe lose once in a while than play shitty teams all the time. I guess you're another guy who gets his self worth because his team won a game any game. You'd be happy to play a trucking school every week at home and then come and brag about your record. Nice.

 

[socaljim242]

Couple issues with this..
1. Not defend OU, but they do a solid job of scheduling..(time to take a shower now)
2. Your goals and and ADs goals are different. AD is looking for the optimal schedule to bring in revenue. YOu want entertainment.
3. I am all for new Big Boy division in CFB that mandates only games games within the division count, so agree with your desire to change scheduling. (Think 50-70 teams mostly in AQ conference teams). It just is not where we are currently. I have said it before, but until there is ramifications to scheduling, there is no incentive to schedule 12 competitive games.
4. A bit redundant, but this about revenue. Bama is one of the most profitable football programs in the country. They have played in more big bowls than pretty much anyone the last 5 years. Why would they consider changing anything they are doing? If you can answer this question, than you may have a chance to change things.

Of course they wouldnt want to change things. It works . I bet Stanford or Oregon would have had a crack at a NC game if they played Cal Poly Pomona instead of playing a conference foe the second to last week of the season. It's like a practice bye and you get a win. Who does Alabama play second to last game this year? West or Western Carolina. That's a joke.

 

[Codaxx]

Of course they wouldnt want to change things. It works . I bet Stanford or Oregon would have had a crack at a NC game if they played Cal Poly Pomona instead of playing a conference foe the second to last week of the season. It's like a practice bye and you get a win. Who does Alabama play second to last game this year? West or Western Carolina. That's a joke.

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That a lot of words to say that Bama should not change there scheduling. Your argument supports the idea that Stanford and Oregon should schedule easier, not that Bama should schedule harder.

 

[UTVolCountry]

I like the way Tenn schedules, even if we get our asses kicked more time than not

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Two people I love to troll are trolling each other. Life is good.

Carry on.

Aint life great?


BTW...


IF the Pac were to expand to 14 teams...Boise State and San Diego State look like the contenders. I would love to have smileid in our forums daily...

Gawd Dayum I love those Boise Boyz, BBz as I like to refer them as. Accurate and dangerous at the same time

 

[socaljim242]

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That a lot of words to say that Bama should not change there scheduling. Your argument supports the idea that Stanford and Oregon should schedule easier, not that Bama should schedule harder.

Well if you don't care about perception and you don't care that your team is playing a cupcake with no chance to make it a game at the end of the season just to help you get a better ranking then I guess so. I'd be pissed if USC was playing Azuza Pacific late November no matter how much it helped the standings. I'm just wondering who Alabama would have to schedule to get that advantage back if teams did do the same.
Hmmmm. Play rugby teams and have them play blindfolded?

 

[Codaxx]

Well if you don't care about perception and you don't care that your team is playing a cupcake with no chance to make it a game at the end of the season just to help you get a better ranking then I guess so. I'd be pissed if USC was playing Azuza Pacific late November no matter how much it helped the standings. I'm just wondering who Alabama would have to schedule to get that advantage back if teams did do the same.
Hmmmm. Play rugby teams and have them play blindfolded?

Perception? Are you saying that Bama has a poor perception amongst fans and the media? That can not be further from the truth. I dont like Bama, but the reason they can schedule however they like is because the media's perception of Bama. From a fan's perspective I would love to see great OOC games on everyone's schedule, but I have yet to see a logic argument of why a University should do that.

 

[7Samurai13]

Perception? Are you saying that Bama has a poor perception amongst fans and the media? That can not be further from the truth. I dont like Bama, but the reason they can schedule however they like is because the media's perception of Bama. From a fan's perspective I would love to see great OOC games on everyone's schedule, but I have yet to see a logic argument of why a University should do that.

If and when a team get's over looked for strength of schedule will finally give a reason why. But SoS only matters when it is in favor of the SEC.