The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[mrwallace2ku]

^ Good job...lolz at the pizza joint being easier...I can't imagine the chaos that insues with a night out.

 

[LawDawg]

Nope, didn't make any assumptions and already called you out on it. Does saying it several times make it true?

You say the 7 more losses is obvious and no one argues with it and yet that's exactly what crimson was doing just before you wrote that.

And I made no rewrites of anything. I said adding more losses increases the chances of even the better teams getting one of those. That too should be painfully obvious and irrefutable and yet here we are having to keep repeating it because some of your fellow posters are a bit slow on it.

 

[LawDawg]

You do realize that the only reason that they play a round robin is because they only have 10 teams in the conference and therefore cannot have a CCG, right?

Also, the PAC played a round robin schedule from 2006 until the conference expanded. Even after the conference expanded, the PAC kept it's 9 game IC schedule. When the Big 12 had 12 teams and could play a CCG, they played an 8 game IC schedule.

Of course I realize that, but I am not a BigXII fan puffing out my chest as if we decided to do that on purpose. That said, what you PAC guys are arguing can only truly be solved by playing all the teams. And, the BigXII is the only one doing that right now. Even though involuntary, they are the only league that can say our champion played every team in the league.

If the SEC went to 9 games, and if its dominance continued, you guys would just argue we need to play 10 IC games. You'll always find some reason to minimize what the SEC has done the past decade. I am sure of that.

 

[charlie42s]

Either way, as a Longhorn fan, would rather pay full price to watch them play UCLA or Southeast Plano School of Cosmetology and Zoro-Astrian Studies?

There was a very vocal fan reaction when Sam Houston State was scheduled in 2006. The administration defended the game by stating that when Utah and Meyer pulled out of the Home-Away-Home series, they were unable to find any FBS teams that were available to play on that date and the only option would have been to not play the game. It satisfied the fan base when the administration said they would never do it again.

It is interesting to note that had Utah played Texas in 2008, the winner might have played for the BCS NC.

 

[socaljim242]

Actually UCLA and Texas will be a neutral site game. I am not so blind to say Dallas is not an advantage for Texas, but technically it is a neutral site

Well I did write "UCLA going to Texas". If the game is in Dallas won't they be going to Texas? lol

 

[LawDawg]

So this up coming season instead of playing Notre Dame and Fresno State at home and Boston College on the road you suggest we ask the AD to schedule Pomona College and St. Marys and UC Riverside all at home . Yeah , thanks for the suggestion but I'd rather (as would most USC fans ) poke my eye out than watch glorified scrimmage games just to pad the record and make a little more money for the school. Sad that you people actually put up with farce games like that and pathetic you actually count them as wins the same as USC going to Boston College or UCLA going to Texas.

Keep hanging your hat on the few teams that do that, and kudos to you for doing that. I know what it's like ... my Dawgs schedule OOC quite well.

 

[LawDawg]

No, if you call Georgia, the SEC East Champ that year, getting humiliated by Boise State (in Atlanta!), who rose to #3 in the polls that year as a loss to the equivalent of an "FCS or Sun Belt" team, you are stupid beyond words.

Indeed, it proves why the SEC doesn't take on challenging games. If you play good teams instead of patty cakes, sometimes you get exposed. Georgia broke the SEC pattern by agreeing to several such contests. Our Bulldawg friends protested loudly. After Boise pulled a General Sherman on them, the UGA blogs were horrified that they took on such a trap game against a worthy opponent who came into town hungry and focused.

Nope, the SEC is back to what it has been doing now for a decade, make their non-conference schedules as easy as humanly possible.

Yes, it works, but it is cowardly. That isn't even debatable.

This is utter nonsense. UGa dropped some games to the game with BSU. We lost, no question about it. But don't come at us about OOC ... you're picking on the wrong team.

 

[socaljim242]

No, if you call Georgia, the SEC East Champ that year, getting humiliated by Boise State (in Atlanta!), who rose to #3 in the polls that year as a loss to the equivalent of an "FCS or Sun Belt" team, you are stupid beyond words.

Indeed, it proves why the SEC doesn't take on challenging games. If you play good teams instead of patty cakes, sometimes you get exposed. Georgia broke the SEC pattern by agreeing to several such contests. Our Bulldawg friends protested loudly. After Boise pulled a General Sherman on them, the UGA blogs were horrified that they took on such a trap game against a worthy opponent who came into town hungry and focused.

Nope, the SEC is back to what it has been doing now for a decade, make their non-conference schedules as easy as humanly possible.

Yes, it works, but it is cowardly. That isn't even debatable.

^^^^^^ Hit the nail on the head. Yes the SEC gets teams higher ranked and into better bowl games because of the way they schedule but we all know it's cowardly. Alabama plays West Carolina or Western Carolina ( whichever is worse) the second to last game of the season when Pac 12 teams are playing rivals or conference rivals. Nice that a team as good as Alabama gets a practice right at the end of the season and gets to call it a game.

 

[WhiteMamba]

^ Good job...lolz at the pizza joint being easier...I can't imagine the chaos that insues with a night out.

Well, the chaos is certainly there. My two older boys live with their Mom, so when they are up here on weekends the little boy freaks out and thinks its a party. And of course going out with his older brothers he really flips out. The two boys you met are from my wife. So that makes 4 boys total. Poor wife, She has me and 4 boys.... Last night she was out of it... She looked like she was in shock when Nolan was doing his happy scream throughout the evening.

And you can imagine how Mamba offspring @ age 13 and 16 can eat... Holy SHIT!

 

[socaljim242]

Keep hanging your hat on the few teams that do that, and kudos to you for doing that. I know what it's like ... my Dawgs schedule OOC quite well.

A few teams that do that? I posted this years and last years OCC games for the top four SEC teams. They combined for TWO away games out of 32 while the PAC top four had 8 away games playing 8 fewer games. USC played two road OCC games in 2013 by itself. So spare me with the "few teams that do that" . The ones at the top of the SEC are the worse. The schedule cupcakes as second to last game of the season.

 

[socaljim242]

This is utter nonsense. UGa dropped some games to the game with BSU. We lost, no question about it. But don't come at us about OOC ... you're picking on the wrong team.

Ummmm . Georgia plays Troy and second to the last game of the season they play Charleston Southern. If you think thats excusable you're making our point. Maybe playing them in Basketball could be interesting but when you play a team where every single player with be going on to a career in something other than football then you are playing a practice game.

 

[WhiteMamba]

^^^^^^ Hit the nail on the head. Yes the SEC gets teams higher ranked and into better bowl games because of the way they schedule but we all know it's cowardly. Alabama plays West Carolina or Western Carolina ( whichever is worse) the second to last game of the season when Pac 12 teams are playing rivals or conference rivals. Nice that a team as good as Alabama gets a practice right at the end of the season and gets to call it a game.

I can tell you, I would have watched Oregon in the Rose Bowl if the Ducks had played Idaho State instead of Arizona in the month of November.

But all and all. I wouldn't trade it for the world. My joy of CFB comes from competition. If that means no NC ever. So be it. I am a happy fan no matter what as long as I get good football games throughout the season with no cowardly scheduling.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Well, the chaos is certainly there. My two older boys live with their Mom, so when they are up here on weekends the little boy freaks out and thinks its a party. And of course going out with his older brothers he really flips out. The two boys you met are from my wife. So that makes 4 boys total. Poor wife, She has me and 4 boys.... Last night she was out of it... She looked like she was in shock when Nolan was doing his happy scream throughout the evening.

And you can imagine how Mamba offspring @ age 13 and 16 can eat... Holy SHIT!

I didn't remember, you probably told me about your 2 oldest before...either way, sounds like a load.

I can see the food being brought to your table last nite..."endless shrimp" for ecomomical reasons alone, 8 lobsters and 15 orders of cheese biscuits (gawd those things are good), salad bar re-fills by 3 visits back too and coke drinks galore...

Red Lobster stock took a hit and dropped 3 fold by your family eating there alone...

 

[OregonDucks]

Ducks spring game was awesome. Oregon hasn't skipped a beat, easily see this team taking the PAC and legit natty contenders

 

[WhiteMamba]

Ya, we had to order 2 dozen biscuits to go (for snacks later on) is what the kids said.

Got two orders of appetizers. All 3 of the oldest boys got their own Ultimate feast dinner. Then I ordered them an Admirals Platter to split with all the fried seafood. They burned through all that plus the endless in restaurant biscuits and soda. The baby chowed down on chicken and fries followed by ice cream... I got some damn platter with scallops grilled shrimp and lobster. Good Lord. Not even sure of what the wifey got. Wonder if they roll out the red carpet for us next time we come.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Ducks spring game was awesome. Oregon hasn't skipped a beat, easily see this team taking the PAC and legit natty contenders

Well, they will be favored in all of their games. Now to execute and stay healthy. Love the defensive toughness and nasty edge Pellum has installed.

The WRs are disgustingly good and deep. Very pleased with Devon Allen, Darren Carrington, and Dwayne Stanford. They looked very good. Couple them with Lowe (the units leader) and Brown, Baylis, and Mundt at TE. Mariota has plenty of weapons to get the ball to. Also, how bout Tyner catching passes.

He is going to be special this season.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

2 dozen biscuits to go...

Bet those are gone by now...

 

[WhiteMamba]

2 dozen biscuits to go...

Bet those are gone by now...

Got about 10 left. They are cheap to go.....

 

[TexasExes98]

I am sorry. But it makes a huge difference on this topic IMO. When I get my season tix in the mail I don't want to see 3 OOC cupcakes.

At least in conference cupcakes it is still a somewhat rivalry with a little history that leads to great game atmospheres.

Washington State, Cal... doesn't matter who it is. I take an extra in conference over a 3rd OOC fluff team.

Mamba, you must be pretty pissed since 2010 as Oregon has played an FCS team every year since.

 

[LawDawg]

^^^^^^ Hit the nail on the head. Yes the SEC gets teams higher ranked and into better bowl games because of the way they schedule but we all know it's cowardly. Alabama plays West Carolina or Western Carolina ( whichever is worse) the second to last game of the season when Pac 12 teams are playing rivals or conference rivals. Nice that a team as good as Alabama gets a practice right at the end of the season and gets to call it a game.

It amazes me that you don't get it ... everyone else gets a pre-season to work out the kinks. The SEC starts IC play in week 1, playing many important IC games while most other teams are playing the OOC games getting warmed up. The SEC then has to have some OOC games at the end of the year and has chosen a week to do it, giving them what is basically a bye week. I would prefer 3 or 4 OOC games to start the season, but I don't get a vote. But you guys crying about this has really gotten tiresome when you don't acknowledge the lack of a pre-season, and the fact that at least 4 SEC teams finish the year with tough OOC grudge games.