The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[charlie42s]

Do not "criticize the SEC"

There is "Free Speech" and the consequences of "Free Speech". Many do not understand the difference.

 

[WhiteMamba]

2h[/ame] The traditional [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SaluteTheDay&src=hash"]#SaluteTheDay uniform exchange between @wintheday players and service men & women. pic.twitter.com/pXjJgwuTkF

 

[WhiteMamba]

 

[4down20]

There were many that were talking up how good Mississippi State was a few years ago when they rolled into the Alabama game 7-0 and ranked 11. They played no one even close to a winning record but that was another "ranked win" for Alabama that year that Tiders were rubbing one off over.

Everyone I knew thought Miss St was over-rated that year and knew they would start losing one.

They played the kind of schedule all the other conferences play. Bunch of cupcakes to start the year and never played a real game until Alabama. They ended up finishing 8-4(regular season, lost in bowl game as well) as the 2nd half of their schedule played all the tough games, outside that John Smith Arkansas team. Alabama, A&M, LSU and Ole Miss.

 

[WizardHawk]

Right, so Oregon football players like to undress around men in uniforms.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Right, so Oregon football players like to undress around men in uniforms.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.

ho hum. We will find anything to knock on our rivals. Such is life in the conference of champions...

 

[WizardHawk]

Gotta love the off season.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Actually this is one of my favorite things the Ducks do. Started with Chip. A tribute to the troops. A lot of interactive activities for kids with the troops. You should see some of those young kids face when they get to climb a rock wall with a Marine... Or go through an obstacle course with them.... Very cool stuff set up around Autzen for the game.

You would think the kids would be in awe of the players, well they are... But most of the time it is the Marines that rightfully have the kids going bananas.

They also have a massive can drive... Recommended to bring a few cans per attendee and if you can a cash donation to Oregon Food Bank. Today with 37,000+ they made a difference.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Actually, it's not a fact at all.

I think the fact that I'm thinking about is, if you played more conference games, half those games will be losses to one or the other. That is a fact. Right? I mean, the games wont be ties.

 

[Texas Jefe]

No one can dispute the SEC's championships. But if those teams, by playing one more conference game each, and by not scheduling so many 'patsies' get a few more losses, then they will be ranked lower.


If they are ranked lower, then they have fewer chances of getting into the championship game. If they cant get into the championship game, they cant win championships.


It's just speculation, except that for the extra conference games, some conference team will get another loss. That is a fact.


What would that mean in the long run? In the polls? I don't know, but in any case we aren't going to find out now. Maybe in a few years, after the new system shakes out, conferences are going to have to even everything out: CCGames, number of conference opponents each year, level of OOC scheduling. As it is now, it's a hodgepodge.

 

[charlie42s]

No one can dispute the SEC's championships. But if those teams, by playing one more conference game each, and by not scheduling so many 'patsies' get a few more losses, then they will be ranked lower.


If they are ranked lower, then they have fewer chances of getting into the championship game. If they cant get into the championship game, they cant win championships.


It's just speculation, except that for the extra conference games, some conference team will get another loss. That is a fact.


What would that mean in the long run? In the polls? I don't know, but in any case we aren't going to find out now. Maybe in a few years, after the new system shakes out, conferences are going to have to even everything out: CCGames, number of conference opponents each year, level of OOC scheduling. As it is now, it's a hodgepodge.

Poking the SEC FCS balloon with a needle will create a SHIT of a storm. The SEC has gamed the system, minimize the risks and the NCAA allowed it by removing FCS teams from SOS. Even when a FCS team beats a SEC team there is no negatives. FCS games don't count.

 

[charlie42s]

... and I dispute the LSU-Bama championship. It was a ripoff. I'm just glad it was only on ESPN and was only available to those who were willing to pay to view it.

 

[yeodonie]

9th largest Spring game attendance in the nation.

By far the largest in the P12. USC had 16k with a billion people in LA

 

[trojanfan12]

Just found this picture of Oregon's new road uni's:

 

[The Crimson King]

I think the fact that I'm thinking about is, if you played more conference games, half those games will be losses to one or the other. That is a fact. Right? I mean, the games wont be ties.

wasn't the statement that adding another conference game adds 7 more total losses to the conference? That's not a fact

 

[mrwallace2ku]

^ I don't see any "butterknives" on the top of the shoulder pads...must be road unis...

 

[LawDawg]

There were many that were talking up how good Mississippi State was a few years ago when they rolled into the Alabama game 7-0 and ranked 11. They played no one even close to a winning record but that was another "ranked win" for Alabama that year that Tiders were rubbing one off over.

This happens every year to a couple of teams ... MSU was the team that year. West Virginia a few years earlier. I think TexasTech was a good example of that team this past year. If you follow college football, this isn't an SEC thing ... happens every year. Sorry to bust your anti-SEC narrative, but you will need to have more than this.

 

[LawDawg]

Do not "criticize the SEC"

I known you are kidding, but do you not expect us to defend against the attacks? I have no problem with you guys airing your anti-SEC sentiments, so I don't expect you to mind it when we defend. Seems fair to me.

 

[LawDawg]

They're still a middle tier team that the SEC sells as a marque matchup and as a powerhouse every year.

They get inflated rankings because they have 7 fewer losses than they normally would with a real schedule

LOL. Have you ever even looked at UGa's OOC schedule in the Richt era? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight, son.

 

[LawDawg]

This year and last years OCC schedule for the top four from the Pac 12 and the SEC.
I just looked this up. What jumps out to me is 32 OCC games for the SEC and only 2 away games. The pac had 24 games and yet had four times the away games. So Eight more games and Six more away games. If you expand this list to include the whole conference ( multiply by three fro the pac 12) and even though the SEC has two more teams they would still be no where near the games and pathetically lagging in away games. Auburn and Alabama have been great teams I'm not saying they are not but these four SEC teams played Two OCC games on the road against Clemson and Kansas State in two years . While those four Pac teams went to play Notre dame twice Virgina twice, Nebraska , Texas, Army and New Mexico .

Stanford – Oregon- Ucla- Arizona State

UC Davis South Dakota Virginia(@) Weber state
Army (h) Michigan State Memphis New Mexico (@)
Notre dame (@) Wyoming Texas(@) Notre dame
San Jose State Nicholls State Nevada Sacramento State
Army (@) Virginia (@) Nebraska (@) Wisconsin
Notre Dame Tennessee New Mexico St. Notre dame (@)


Alabama- Auburn- Missouri- South Carolina

West Virginia San Jose State South Dakota State East Carolina
Florida Atlantic Kansas State (@) Toledo Furman
Western Carolina Samford Univ Central Florida South Alabama
Southern Miss Louisiana tech Indiana Clemson (@)
Virginia Tech Washington State Murry State North Carolina
Colorado State Arkansas State Toledo Univ Central Florida

This simply proves you guys aren't too smart when it comes to scheduling. Face it, the SEC isn't going to give up having 8 home games most every year. Just isn't going to happen. Too profitable for the schools and the towns/cities they are located in. Instead of crying here, contact your AD and tell them to schedule better. You can point at FCS games, I'm with you there. You can say you play 3 OOC and we play 4 ... I don't necessarily agree, but it's a fair argument. Home games OOC? Nah, don't care about that when you could do the same thing.