The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[Nascar Addict]

The SEC does stack the deck. Even though they are a powerhouse conference.

 

[7Samurai13]

Please provide a list of all non-SEC teams that play more than one quality OOC game year in and year out?

Crickets.

Both the years that Alabama backed out on, Michigan State had them and Notre Dame on the schedule. Yes I know that is not year in and year out, but thats more quality OOC games than the average SEC team has in 3 years. Please tell me what SEC teams play more than one quality OOC game year in and year out?

Crickets.

 

[WhiteMamba]

There are a lot of television CFB fans posting against fans who attend games. One fan no better than the other of course. Both are ultimately passionate fans in there own right.

But reading through the thread you can tell the divide somewhat comes from this.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Stay at eight games, that's cool. But staph scheduling FCS schools. Have your conference season start later, schedule your tune up Sun Belt/Conference USA team weeks one or two, and everything will be right in the world.

 

[WhiteMamba]

I need some tacos.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

So you agree that Alabama lied when they stated that they dropped the games due to "uncertainty of the 9 game schedule." Glad we can agree about something. Some AD's are about doing things for the fans. That's why Michigan State has done many big games in both college basketball and in football. So maybe Alabama is all about whoring themselves out for money, but not all AD's are.

I will give you a food for thought moment and you can dwell on it. Here goes, Alabama AD is about his fans, but not just in the home area. Alabama fans are all over the U.S, (I know MSU is a regional school mostly) so Bama schedules games in areas like Dallas, Atlanta to get big paydays and maybe make the game closer for fans outside the Tuscaloosa area to be able to enjoy a game once a year. Second reason is recruiting. A game like that can be used as a recruiting tool. Now if you pay attention to the recruiting rankings, what school has been atop the recruiting rankings 6 out of the last 7 years? Thats right, Alabama and those one off games helped in making that happen.

You like the home and home and thats fine, nothing against it at all. Saban and Battle(AD) like the one off game on a neutral field against a Big 5 conference. This is done to start against a top opponent, bolster recruiting, get a big money paycheck to start the year and hopefully(if the opponent is good enough) send a message that Bama is a contender.

The last comment just shows you have an issue with Bama because they dropped your boys. All teams AD's are about the bottom line and Battle was a multi-millionaire businessman before he became AD so he knows how to make a dollar and build a profitable machine. In todays world of economics and being they are a state run school, the AD being good at making money helps a state in so many ways.


Now in all your rude and uncalled for comments notice not once have i put MSU down, or tried to besmirch them in anyway. I didnt even comment on your bowl game blowup a few years ago, i let you do all the talking for us on that one. And believe me we could definitely talk alot on that one, but yet i didnt.

 

[trojanfan12]

I need some tacos.

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[Wild Turkey]

They schedule the games for money and recruiting they don't really give a crap where fans live because Alabama fans will travel regardless. Besides it's not like they are deciding where the neutral sites are anyway that is all decided in back offices and who is willing to stroke the check.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Then why bother scheduling the home and homes in the first place?

You might have to resurrect Mal Moore from his grave for that answer. Not sure why it was done, but who really cares in the long run why, its over and done with and to me Bama and its neutral site games will be much better off monetarily and recruiting wise, which is all that matters in todays world.

 

[charlie42s]

No, those are just off the top my head. I'm too lazy to look up anyone else's schedule.

Interestingly, 3 of the 4 are all PAC teams and 3 of the 4 have never played an FCS program and are the only one's in FBS that can make that claim.

Texas has only played one and that was because Utah and Meyers backed out of a 3 game series that was for 2006, 2007 and 2008.
Texas almost always plays at least 1 AG OOC game.
In 2013 Texas played North Texas, BYU and Ole Miss. All 3 went to bowl games and while you might laugh at North Texas, that was a&m's quality OOC game.
2014 North Texas, BYU and UCLA
2015 Notre Dame, Rice and Cal
2016 Notre Dame, UTEP and Cal
2017 Maryland, UCF and USC
2018 Maryland and USC

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

They schedule the games for money and recruiting they don't really give a crap where fans live because Alabama fans will travel regardless. Besides it's not like they are deciding where the neutral sites are anyway that is all decided in back offices and who is willing to stroke the check.

True, but a neutral site game not in Tuscaloosa gets the games closer to other parts of the fan base that may not be able to travel to T-town for a game and dont live close enough to an away game to see them.

 

[7Samurai13]

I will give you a food for thought moment and you can dwell on it. Here goes, Alabama AD is about his fans, but not just in the home area. Alabama fans are all over the U.S, (I know MSU is a regional school mostly) so Bama schedules games in areas like Dallas, Atlanta to get big paydays and maybe make the game closer for fans outside the Tuscaloosa area to be able to enjoy a game once a year. Second reason is recruiting. A game like that can be used as a recruiting tool. Now if you pay attention to the recruiting rankings, what school has been atop the recruiting rankings 6 out of the last 7 years? Thats right, Alabama and those one off games helped in making that happen.

You like the home and home and thats fine, nothing against it at all. Saban and Battle(AD) like the one off game on a neutral field against a Big 5 conference. This is done to start against a top opponent, bolster recruiting, get a big money paycheck to start the year and hopefully(if the opponent is good enough) send a message that Bama is a contender.

The last comment just shows you have an issue with Bama because they dropped your boys. All teams AD's are about the bottom line and Battle was a multi-millionaire businessman before he became AD so he knows how to make a dollar and build a profitable machine. In todays world of economics and being they are a state run school, the AD being good at making money helps a state in so many ways.


Now in all your rude and uncalled for comments notice not once have i put MSU down, or tried to besmirch them in anyway. I didnt even comment on your bowl game blowup a few years ago, i let you do all the talking for us on that one. And believe me we could definitely talk alot on that one, but yet i didnt.

Actually I don't have any issue with Alabama or the AD about dropping the game. My two issues with the PoS Head Coach and the fact that Alabama is lying to everyone on why the game was dropped. Be up front and honest and say that you don't want to play home and home's because you can make more money playing a neutral site game and we shouldn't have scheduled the game at all because that's what we are all about.

If you don't know why I have issues with Saban, then you need to look at his history.

About the last game between Alabama and Michigan State, it would be a short conversation. You kicked our over-rated ass. As much of a d-bad as Saban is, the man can coach and is damn near unstoppable when given a month or more to game plan. Would I want him back as my coach, no, because it is just a matter of time til he would run out on us again because he doesn't have any loyalties.

Recently Michigan State played a basketball game on the deck of an aircraft carrier. It only sat 8,111 people. They could have done a game in a football stadium and put in 60k+ people and made a heck of a lot more money. Again he wanted to do something interesting and fun for the fans. I know you guys don't care about hockey, but all of the NHL Winter Classic games are because of Michigan State/Michigan.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Actually I don't have any issue with Alabama or the AD about dropping the game. My two issues with the PoS Head Coach and the fact that Alabama is lying to everyone on why the game was dropped. Be up front and honest and say that you don't want to play home and home's because you can make more money playing a neutral site game and we shouldn't have scheduled the game at all because that's what we are all about.

If you don't know why I have issues with Saban, then you need to look at his history.

About the last game between Alabama and Michigan State, it would be a short conversation. You kicked our over-rated ass. As much of a d-bad as Saban is, the man can coach and is damn near unstoppable when given a month or more to game plan. Would I want him back as my coach, no, because it is just a matter of time til he would run out on us again because he doesn't have any loyalties.

Recently Michigan State played a basketball game on the deck of an aircraft carrier. It only sat 8,111 people. They could have done a game in a football stadium and put in 60k+ people and made a heck of a lot more money. Again he wanted to do something interesting and fun for the fans. I know you guys don't care about hockey, but all of the NHL Winter Classic games are because of Michigan State/Michigan.

And your issues with Saban are fine, but just know this, he does have loyalties...its money. Why he left MSU was over money, why he left LSU was somewhat over money but also a chance to go higher in the ranks and try his skillset. Why hasnt he left Alabama? money... well that and anywhere else is a lateral move or step down.

I remember when he first signed it was "Saban will be leaving in a year or so as soon as a bigger name comes calling with more money" I am still waiting on that bigger name and the more money part to happen.

 

[charlie42s]

Saban is afraid of the cold.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Saban is afraid of the cold.

Evidently he isn't too fond of tropical weather either.

 

[charlie42s]

Evidently he isn't too fond of tropical weather either.

Is it possible he's scared of leaving Tuscaloosa because it's such an attractive location?

 

[WhiteMamba]

Taco Song Lyrics - YouTube

lol. what in THE fuck. I ended up getting chicken wangs from the black folks up in NE Portland.. Damn GOOD!

 

[LawDawg]

Regarding playing FCS schools, yeah it's stupid and weak, but replacing FCS schools with shitty BCS programs doesn't mean anything either, especially since a lot of FCS schools can whip the weaker BCS programs and have beaten some big time programs (ahem, Michigan, UF, VA Tech, etc).....

You and I are often on opposite sides, but we are in tune on this one. I don't like FCS teams, but replacing them with Kansas and the like isn't any better.

 

[RegentDenali]

4 star QB Brady White (Santa Clarita, CA) commits to Arizona St over Oregon and Cal. Also had offers from Maryland, Nebraska, Louisville, and Penn St.

https://twitter.com/DougHaller/statuses/462367359756689408

 

[LawDawg]

Both the years that Alabama backed out on, Michigan State had them and Notre Dame on the schedule. Yes I know that is not year in and year out, but thats more quality OOC games than the average SEC team has in 3 years. Please tell me what SEC teams play more than one quality OOC game year in and year out?

Crickets.

In the Richt era, UGa has played 2 BCS teams in all but 2 years. That includes ASU, Colorado (that's traveling), Clemson, Oklahoma State, Boise State, and a couple others I don't remember. Check LSU's schedule a couple years ago with Oregon, and good WVa, etc. So, for UGa, that's year in and year out. No crickets here.