THE PAC 12 THREAD v.3

[WizardHawk]

Notre Dame @ Arizona State -1 1/2
Washington State @ Oregon State -9 1/2
UCLA @ Washington +3 1/2
Colorado @ Arizona -14 1/2

Oregon @ Utah +9 1/2

Fucks 36 Utes 20

 

[WhiteMamba]

Fuck politics on the PAC thread.

 

[LPinSLC]

I hate both parties and the assholes who think either one is entirely right.

Like it's relevant. Both parties are supported by the same boosters. Vote for one and submit to the same agenda. Boosters pay equal parts to both parties. You think that's coincidence? 1%'s don't give a shit which party is pushing their agenda.

 

[Olyduck]

It sure is a luxury mamba...

Besides the Bruins needing to win out, they still need the Utes & Sun Devils to pick up another loss.

Not too worried about the Utes as they still have Oregon, @ Stanford, Arizona & @ Colorado.

It's them Devils that have me worried with only @ Oregon St., Wash St. & @ Arizona.

So it's either a slip in their next two conference games or a show down @ Arizona.

Damn ASU missing Oregon while the Bruins miss Washington State may play a role in the South's Division Title two years straight!

So, if your PAC team is still in the race for a CCG spot, what is the scenario for them to get in?

We all know for Oregon and ASU it's win out but what about the rest of ya's?...

How can you get there?

Here you go
Oregon has to win 1 of their last 3 games.
Stanford needs Oregon to lose all 3 and then win all theirs.
Cal is out. Even if Oregon lost all 3 they would be tied and Oregon owns head to head.
UW needs Oregon to lose all 3 then win out. by winning out they have only have 3 losses Oregon losing any less than all three would leave them tied and Oregon has had to head. They would also need Stanford to lose 1 more.
Oregon State needs Oregon to lose all 3 and win out. this would leave them tied and since they play eachother OS would then own head to head. Would also mean they beat UW. They need Stanford to lose 2 more.
WSU is out.

ASU needs to win 2 of three final conference games as long as 1 of those is Arizona. they can lose to Oregon State or WSU and still make it because they own wins over everyone else in the south already. but if they lose to Arizona they are out even if they win the other 2 unless Arizona loses another. then it dont matter.
Arizona needs to win out which tops them over Utah and ASU. they then need UCLA and USC to lose 1 more game each. 1 will of course since they play eachother.
USC win out which means they beat UCLA to move them down. they already have the head to head over Arizona. then need Utah to lose 1 more and ASU to lose 2.
UCLA needs to win out. which would mean they topped USC to move them down. they own head to head on AZ. they need Utah to lose 1. and Arizona State to lose 2.
Utah needs to win out. this will put them over Arizona. they own head to head on USC and UCLA. they then need Az State to lose 2.
Colorado is out.

Thats this weeks scenarios even by next week things will be different.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Nice work Oly.

 

[Olyduck]

if im wrong sorry but thats my best look at it.

any questions for other conferences?

 

[LASports96]

well that is one of the scenarios and the most straight forward of scenarios, but as I laid out before their is multiple scenarios for USC to win the south, as I'm sure their are for a bunch of teams.

 

[Olyduck]

Like i said thats right now as is. as of next week they will change. but im not going to break down the what ifs based on if this happes this week and that happens next week.

 

[socaljim242]

Do you really struggle with simple concepts this much, or is it an act?

I guess I'm not surprised you are this far behind.

Every school has issues. You get upwards of 100 kids on your team and there are bound to be problems. These are kids and they make mistakes. Like ASJ. I still wanted him kicked off the team but he was a good kid that made a bad mistake. Peters is a punk and was known to be one before he was picked up at UW. So were a few of the others that have already been tossed.

Carroll likes those kinds of kids. Thinks he can reach them. Sark did too. Sometimes you can reach one and get a great player to boot. Many times it bites you in the ass. I prefer not dealing with that for a college team. Pro's yes, college no.

Have any more stupidity to share? Something tells me you do.

Yes, I've got plenty more of your stupidity to share. It's like the gift that keeps on giving. lol

You keep skipping the part where Peterson had kids at Boise he recruited that end up in jail and or getting suspended that still ended up back on his roster. How is it you keep forgetting to address that? Because it puts him in there with all the other coaches? It's great that YOU wouldn't want them on your team but the thing is sparky you're not the coach. Peterson is and he's made that gamble before and he's going to make it even more now that he has to play with big boys. So for you to paint the reason Washington is where they are is because of " Sarks kids left on the team" is idiotic ( especially since it's Petersons first year.lol) and just shows that you're still whining about him ditching your school. Every one likes Mike Riley at Oregon State ( don't know too many who talk bad about him). No one thinks he's a win at all costs kinda guy yet he's had just as many if not more players arrested or suspended for bone head behavior. So please keep saying stupid things and I will chuckle and point them out. LOL

 

[socaljim242]

Here you go
Oregon has to win 1 of their last 3 games.
Stanford needs Oregon to lose all 3 and then win all theirs.
Cal is out. Even if Oregon lost all 3 they would be tied and Oregon owns head to head.
UW needs Oregon to lose all 3 then win out. by winning out they have only have 3 losses Oregon losing any less than all three would leave them tied and Oregon has had to head. They would also need Stanford to lose 1 more.
Oregon State needs Oregon to lose all 3 and win out. this would leave them tied and since they play eachother OS would then own head to head. Would also mean they beat UW. They need Stanford to lose 2 more.
WSU is out.

ASU needs to win 2 of three final conference games as long as 1 of those is Arizona. they can lose to Oregon State or WSU and still make it because they own wins over everyone else in the south already. but if they lose to Arizona they are out even if they win the other 2 unless Arizona loses another. then it dont matter.
Arizona needs to win out which tops them over Utah and ASU. they then need UCLA and USC to lose 1 more game each. 1 will of course since they play eachother.
USC win out which means they beat UCLA to move them down. they already have the head to head over Arizona. then need Utah to lose 1 more and ASU to lose 2.
UCLA needs to win out. which would mean they topped USC to move them down. they own head to head on AZ. they need Utah to lose 1. and Arizona State to lose 2.
Utah needs to win out. this will put them over Arizona. they own head to head on USC and UCLA. they then need Az State to lose 2.
Colorado is out.

Thats this weeks scenarios even by next week things will be different.

Oregon just looks like the best team in the PAC right now. Not by a mile but they are just better. I'm just hoping to beat UCLA and ND and call it a season.

 

[asu_08]

Here you go
Oregon has to win 1 of their last 3 games.
Stanford needs Oregon to lose all 3 and then win all theirs.
Cal is out. Even if Oregon lost all 3 they would be tied and Oregon owns head to head.
UW needs Oregon to lose all 3 then win out. by winning out they have only have 3 losses Oregon losing any less than all three would leave them tied and Oregon has had to head. They would also need Stanford to lose 1 more.
Oregon State needs Oregon to lose all 3 and win out. this would leave them tied and since they play eachother OS would then own head to head. Would also mean they beat UW. They need Stanford to lose 2 more.
WSU is out.

ASU needs to win 2 of three final conference games as long as 1 of those is Arizona. they can lose to Oregon State or WSU and still make it because they own wins over everyone else in the south already. but if they lose to Arizona they are out even if they win the other 2 unless Arizona loses another. then it dont matter.
Arizona needs to win out which tops them over Utah and ASU. they then need UCLA and USC to lose 1 more game each. 1 will of course since they play eachother.
USC win out which means they beat UCLA to move them down. they already have the head to head over Arizona. then need Utah to lose 1 more and ASU to lose 2.
UCLA needs to win out. which would mean they topped USC to move them down. they own head to head on AZ. they need Utah to lose 1. and Arizona State to lose 2.
Utah needs to win out. this will put them over Arizona. they own head to head on USC and UCLA. they then need Az State to lose 2.
Colorado is out.

Thats this weeks scenarios even by next week things will be different.

UCLA has the tiebreaker on ASU so if they win out they only need ASU to lose one conference game.

I'm not sure what happens if you end up with ASU, Utah, and UCLA all with 2 losses.

 

[WizardHawk]

Yes, I've got plenty more of my stupidity to share. It's like the gift that keeps on giving. lol

fify

You keep skipping the part where Peterson had kids at Boise he recruited that end up in jail and or getting suspended that still ended up back on his roster. How is it you keep forgetting to address that? Because it puts him in there with all the other coaches?

Try reading now and then. Helps keep you from looking extra stupid.
http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/5834049-post5032.html

Every school has issues. You get upwards of 100 kids on your team and there are bound to be problems. These are kids and they make mistakes.

Please try harder to pay attention. I know it may hurt, but I believe you can do it if you just keep trying!

the thing is sparky

We are really in trouble if we have to now start helping you keep the 12 schools in the Pac straight.
Sparky refers to the mascot of ASU (Arizona State University, located in Tempe AZ) so that would be fitting when talking to a fan of that institution. UW's mascot is called Harry the Husky. Think you can remember that?

It's great that YOU wouldn't want them on your team but you're not the coach. Peterson is and he's made that gamble before and he's going to make it even more now that he has to play with big boys.

It's awsome that you agree with everything your coaches ever do and every decision they make. I mean that kind of comes with not really understanding the sport, but still good for you. I'm entitled to not agree with anything I please. Maybe when you learn a little more about this sport you too will start to find some things you don't agree with. Just keep working at it!

So for you to paint the reason Washington is where they are is because of " Sarks kids left on the team" is idiotic ( especially since it's Petersons first year.lol)

I know I already told you the problems between the coaches and kids are a combination of first year HC AND the drastic change in culture (I.E. Sark's kids are not the kind of kids Petersen normally coaches). Please try to keep up. It would cut down on the redundant postings.

and just shows that you're still whining about him ditching your school.

Might be a valid zinger if it wasn't for the fact I brought this up many times while Sark was still here. I mean you can connect those dots without help right? (Maybe not as I've already pointed that out and yet here you are)

Every one likes Mike Riley at Oregon State ( don't know too many who talk bad about him). No one thinks he's a win at all costs kinda guy yet he's had just as many if not more players arrested or suspended for bone head behavior.

Please show me a year he suspended and/or tossed off 9 players from the team by November 5th. I'll patiently wait right here...

Rumblings are Peters wasn't the last of these distraction kids, but no one is naming names. Let's just assume it's 10 and be very generous. They did say 'others' so it's likely higher.

Now let's also assume UW has more or less 100 kids on the team and 1/5 of those are true/RS freshmen. No one has mentioned any problems with these kids and while many had committed to Sark to begin with, Petersen still took them in so they are his kids. Follow me so far condom? (See, at least I get your mascot right ). So let's just say around 80 kids that were Sark's. We are looking at between 12% - 15% of those kids being distractions and/or causing problems for the team.

Find me examples of Petersen and Riley teams with those levels of problems in a single season. You keep insisting no one is talking about it (because I thought it was obvious, but forgot who I was talking to) so now I'll expect you to prove your point.

So I'll keep saying stupid things so you can chuckle and point them out. LOL

fify again.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Riley has had his bad apples, few and far between I spose. The only time I can remember in recent history was when Erickson coached the Beavers and they finished #3 in the country. He had some thugs back then.

I'll take being average to crappy anytime over having a team sprinkled with idiots worthy of dismissal yearly tho.

 

[Vitamike]

UCLA has the tiebreaker on ASU so if they win out they only need ASU to lose one conference game.

I'm not sure what happens if you end up with ASU, Utah, and UCLA all with 2 losses.

Not sure either ASU_08 but I really don't see Utah ending up with only 2 conference losses due to the remainder of their schedule.

I do remember when the Big 12 had a three way tie a few years ago when they actually had 12 teams and two divisions. They took the highest ranked team between the three as the tiebreaker. (OU, UT & TT, Oh how them Longhorn fans cried

as the Sooner's moved on)

Should that be the case here and there is a three way tie, I'm gonna guess the Utes take the South based on strength of schedule and having the best quality win vs Oregon.

 

[963BUSC]

Not sure either ASU_08 but I really don't see Utah ending up with only 2 conference losses due to the remainder of their schedule.

I do remember when the Big 12 had a three way tie a few years ago when they actually had 12 teams and two divisions. They took the highest ranked team between the three as the tiebreaker. (OU, UT & TT, Oh how them Longhorn fans cried

as the Sooner's moved on)

Should that be the case here and there is a three way tie, I'm gonna guess the Utes take the South based on strength of schedule and having the best quality win vs Oregon.

For ASU to end up with 2 Conference losses I think they'd have to lose to Arizona which could leave them as another 2 loss team. Really aside from Colorado I think everyone is alive in the 2 loss column.

 

[Olyduck]

UCLA has the tiebreaker on ASU so if they win out they only need ASU to lose one conference game.

I'm not sure what happens if you end up with ASU, Utah, and UCLA all with 2 losses.

ah thanks i knew i would probably miss it by a game somewhere

 

[Olyduck]

Not sure either ASU_08 but I really don't see Utah ending up with only 2 conference losses due to the remainder of their schedule.

I do remember when the Big 12 had a three way tie a few years ago when they actually had 12 teams and two divisions. They took the highest ranked team between the three as the tiebreaker. (OU, UT & TT, Oh how them Longhorn fans cried

as the Sooner's moved on)

Should that be the case here and there is a three way tie, I'm gonna guess the Utes take the South based on strength of schedule and having the best quality win vs Oregon.

i think it goes to highest ranked team at that point but not 100%

 

[BeaverShaver]

Rumors flying that Marcus Peters was repeatedly seen wearing Oregon gear, and recently left practice wearing an Oregon beanie.

"I just couldnt see myself wearing UW gear for 4 years"

Marcus Peters, former UW corner

 

[WhiteMamba]

I think there is truth to that as well. That is so bad.

 

[yeodonie]

Peters must be pissed to wear Duck gear.

I hope Oregon doesn't stoop to picking him up. He's draft eligible I suspect. No reason he'd sit out a year, play a year anyway.

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