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Hopefully Hextall is taking notes right now with Toronto properly selling

The problem is, Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli are better than what the Flyers have to offer as trade bait
 

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The problem is, Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli are better than what the Flyers have to offer as trade bait

Doesn't have to be an equal package to what Toronto got. Though I'd rather have Coburn over Franson
 

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Doesn't have to be an equal package to what Toronto got. Though I'd rather have Coburn over Franson

Give me Cody Franson every day of the week - he's more offensive and he's a righty shot I think - plus if he can succeed in that media firestorm in Toronto then he's mentally tough
 

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Give me Cody Franson every day of the week - he's more offensive and he's a righty shot I think - plus if he can succeed in that media firestorm in Toronto then he's mentally tough

Guess we'll have to disagree there. I'm by no means a Coburn fan but Franson seems like he has the ability to turn into a tire fire a lot more
 

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Guess we'll have to disagree there. I'm by no means a Coburn fan but Franson seems like he has the ability to turn into a tire fire a lot more

Braydon Coburn's been a huge tire fire as well and he brings no offense - Cody Franson is a play maker and on a team where he doesn't have to be the guy like Braydon Coburn might have to be on this team, he's much better
 

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Doesn't have to be an equal package to what Toronto got. Though I'd rather have Coburn over Franson

At this point you guys are basically saying I would rather have a Wasp sting over a Hornet sting. They both suck!:suds:
 

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Boston with 4 more on the road and Florida with 5. The time is now!
 

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EDDIE LACK, GOALIE

Age: 27

Future: Signed for one more year at a $1.15-million cap hit, then he’s set to be an unrestricted free agent (UFA).

The situation: Lack is the goalie most likely to get squeezed out of an organization which also has Ryan Miller and Jacob Markstrom.

The Canucks have explored Lack deals, but have concluded that the best time to make a deal will be during the offseason, probably at the draft.

That said, things could change and teams, say the Philadelphia Flyers, may make a pitch for Lack before the deadline.

The issue here is that Lack is not viewed as someone you can bring in and make a No. 1. He’s more a guy you bring in to share the load, or challenge for the top spot.

Player’s value: The goalie market is non-existent, so not much. Maybe the Canucks could get a second- or third-round draft. Either that or a middle-of-the-road prospect.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...k+Canucks+trade+portfolio/10815977/story.html

Flyers need to make some deals at the deadline based on their logjam on defense but Eddie Lack would be a nice fit here, he's still young enough and him and Mase could make for a good tandem - and this would be one of those deals where you might not have to give up much and you can help yourself now and in the future - can never have enough goaltending
 

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http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...k+Canucks+trade+portfolio/10815977/story.html

Flyers need to make some deals at the deadline based on their logjam on defense but Eddie Lack would be a nice fit here, he's still young enough and him and Mase could make for a good tandem - and this would be one of those deals where you might not have to give up much and you can help yourself now and in the future - can never have enough goaltending

eh, I don't think the Flyers should really be looking at addressing goaltender. Especially not for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They have far more pressing needs than a goalie that can spell Mason IMO.
 

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eh, I don't think the Flyers should really be looking at addressing goaltender. Especially not for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They have far more pressing needs than a goalie that can spell Mason IMO.

We can get a back up in FA. I think we used a 2nd to get A Mac last year so we don't really want to be sending picks at this point.
 

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eh, I don't think the Flyers should really be looking at addressing goaltender. Especially not for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They have far more pressing needs than a goalie that can spell Mason IMO.

I'd probably rather not trade picks(maybe they can move an expiring d-man for an expiring goalie and use their current roster to get a goalie?) too but it just scares me if Mase continues to have issues with injuries because Razor ain't carrying the load long term and while I like what the Zepper has done, he's best suited as a backup - it would be real nice to have two goalies who can play for long stretches at a time, like what the Blues have in Brian Elliott and Jake Allen

Goaltending is like starting pitching in baseball - you can never have enough of it and if you can get a goalie at a decent price and you have enough assets to where you're not bare afterwards, then it's not a bad deal at all
 

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I'd probably rather not trade picks(maybe they can move an expiring d-man for an expiring goalie and use their current roster to get a goalie?) too but it just scares me if Mase continues to have issues with injuries because Razor ain't carrying the load long term and while I like what the Zepper has done, he's best suited as a backup - it would be real nice to have two goalies who can play for long stretches at a time, like what the Blues have in Brian Elliott and Jake Allen

Goaltending is like starting pitching in baseball - you can never have enough of it and if you can get a goalie at a decent price and you have enough assets to where you're not bare afterwards, then it's not a bad deal at all

The thing that concerns me with a goaltending split like that is a lot of goalies a creatures of habit. They like to get in a groove and play a lot of games in a row. Mason has proved that to be the case for him in his short career with the Flyers. The Bob/Emery, Bob/Bryz and Bryz/Emery combinations were a disaster. Nuevy/Varlamov and Nuevy/Holtby weren't real solid for the Caps either. Now Bob has a Vezina and Holtby is a top 10 goalie. It's very difficult to find a goalie split that works well long term. Even the Blues don't quite have that split. Allen is a good prospect, but he's got a .906 save percentage (51st in the NHL) and a 2.5 GAA (36th). The Blues will ride Elliot in the playoffs and won't think twice about it.

That's not to say the Flyers couldn't use an improvement on Emery. I would just worry about fixing the defense and adding depth up front before worrying about a backup goalie. Emery has been mostly atrocious this season, but with Mason out the past few games, he's actually been a large part of the reason the Flyers are picking up points. Who knows, by the time they fix the defense and add some depth up front, maybe Stolarz is ready to be the backup.
 

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We are up to 12.4% playoff probability. Before All Star break it was .7%. The next 4 games for Boston, Florida and us are key as they are both on the road for 4 and we are home for 4.
 

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The thing that concerns me with a goaltending split like that is a lot of goalies a creatures of habit. They like to get in a groove and play a lot of games in a row. Mason has proved that to be the case for him in his short career with the Flyers. The Bob/Emery, Bob/Bryz and Bryz/Emery combinations were a disaster. Nuevy/Varlamov and Nuevy/Holtby weren't real solid for the Caps either. Now Bob has a Vezina and Holtby is a top 10 goalie. It's very difficult to find a goalie split that works well long term. Even the Blues don't quite have that split. Allen is a good prospect, but he's got a .906 save percentage (51st in the NHL) and a 2.5 GAA (36th). The Blues will ride Elliot in the playoffs and won't think twice about it.

That's not to say the Flyers couldn't use an improvement on Emery. I would just worry about fixing the defense and adding depth up front before worrying about a backup goalie. Emery has been mostly atrocious this season, but with Mason out the past few games, he's actually been a large part of the reason the Flyers are picking up points. Who knows, by the time they fix the defense and add some depth up front, maybe Stolarz is ready to be the backup.

That is true, goalies are a creature of habit and it's usually tough to find a good split between goaltenders and actually, the one here with Mase and Razor is actually not bad all things considered, but it always worries me what happens if Mase gets hurt for a LONG period of time, and that's where having that second goalie makes a big difference

The reason why I mentioned the Blues is because the two goalies there are pretty much evenly split in wins this season - I think Brian Elliott has 17 or 18 and Jake Allen has 16, so that goes to show to you they've both been able to win a lot of games

But I do agree as a whole on that part, but it would be really nice to have insurance as a backup incase something really went wrong with Mase, because if your number one goes down for a long time, you are fucked in the ass 99% of the time
 

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Ya, I agree. Mase's injury history this season is very nerve wracking. In a season that looks more promising, it would be nice to have a better backup in place to carry the load. I like emery a lot, but I don't think he can be relied on for months on a team with cup aspirations (assuming the flyers are there in a few years)
 

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Flyers haven't trailed in a game since 1/27. 461 minutes and 49 seconds worth of hockey.

Pretty cool stat from Twitter. I'm bad at embedding them from my phone haha.
 

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Ya, I agree. Mase's injury history this season is very nerve wracking. In a season that looks more promising, it would be nice to have a better backup in place to carry the load. I like emery a lot, but I don't think he can be relied on for months on a team with cup aspirations (assuming the flyers are there in a few years)

It would be good if Anthony Stolarz could develop in the next few years and a tandem of him and Mase would be fantastic
 

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Flyers haven't trailed in a game since 1/27. 461 minutes and 49 seconds worth of hockey.

Pretty cool stat from Twitter. I'm bad at embedding them from my phone haha.

It's harder to do when I'm on my tablet, but if you want to embed(you might know already), just type [tweet] and then the number on the twitter link and then [/tweet]
 
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