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Rinaldo > Akeson more valuable to a team than he gets credit for. If Rinaldo goes who do we have to keep the peace? Do we really want Simmonds sitting in the box 5 minutes at a time.
 

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Rinaldo > Akeson more valuable to a team than he gets credit for. If Rinaldo goes who do we have to keep the peace? Do we really want Simmonds sitting in the box 5 minutes at a time.

I'd shoot both Zac Rinaldo and Jason Akeson into the sun - both useless on this team

Anyone defending Zac Rinaldo at this point really needs to re-evaluate what they're watching - He has one point in 20 games this season - that's not a valuable player in any way possible
 

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I'd shoot both Zac Rinaldo and Jason Akeson into the sun - both useless on this team

Anyone defending Zac Rinaldo at this point really needs to re-evaluate what they're watching - He has one point in 20 games this season - that's not a valuable player in any way possible

Anyone waiting for the 4th line on any team to be scoring threats really needs to brush up on hockey 101.
 

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Anyone waiting for the 4th line on any team to be scoring threats really needs to brush up on hockey 101.

The fourth line is highly pathetic and they're part of the problem - lines 2-3-4 aren't scoring and the 4th line is part of that issue

Flyers have had goons and useless players on the fourth line every year - until they get rid of Zac Rinaldo and go after guys who can put the puck in the net more, the fourth line will never do anything - you think any team fears the Flyers fourth line? Not at all

If you have to defend Zac Rinaldo then there's a problem - he's useless and too many fans like this guy - I don't want him on this team - there are hundreds of players who can play fourth line, give the same amount of energy and provide a lot more skill than he does, and anyone who denies that is out of their mind
 

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The flyers have a whole lot of useless players they could put on the 4th line and not a lot of them would provide a true use. I'm good with Rinaldo there for now. He's not one of the more glaring problems imo.

When they make their run to the cup in a few years :), it would be better to have someone more useful in his spot.
 

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What I mean to say is, jones,vandevelde,akeson,or some waiver pickup aren't going to provide any more than Rinaldo does at this point.
 

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What I mean to say is, jones,vandevelde,akeson,or some waiver pickup aren't going to provide any more than Rinaldo does at this point.

The whole point of this convo is that regardless of if Zac Rinaldo is the problem or not right now, anyone supporting him or saying he will be part of the solution is absolutely out of their mind - a guy with one point in 20 games is not someone who should be part of this team - he should be getting the same amount of abuse that R.J. Umberger gets - only reason he doesn't is $$$ - they're both useless and regardless of how much they make, why would you want either guy on the roster? Just because a player isn't the problem doesn't mean he is or should be part of the solution

They're all useless and people shilling for any of them need to look in the mirror
 

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The whole point of this convo is that regardless of if Zac Rinaldo is the problem or not right now, anyone supporting him or saying he will be part of the solution is absolutely out of their mind - a guy with one point in 20 games is not someone who should be part of this team - he should be getting the same amount of abuse that R.J. Umberger gets - only reason he doesn't is $$$ - they're both useless and regardless of how much they make, why would you want either guy on the roster? Just because a player isn't the problem doesn't mean he is or should be part of the solution

They're all useless and people shilling for any of them need to look in the mirror

I mean it's pretty easy to point out the players that don't need to be here. The way they're playing right now, it's most of them. The ones with the worst contracts get the most grief because they're the hardest to get rid of, so it's most important that they start playing better because we're pretty well stuck with them.

Rinaldo could be waived tomorrow if the flyers had a better option and it would be no big deal.
 

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Can we trade Vinny(thereby taking on part of his ridiculous contract),to a team that hasn't used their amnesty,and then use the amnesty on Umberger?
:rollseyes:
 

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Can we trade Vinny(thereby taking on part of his ridiculous contract),to a team that hasn't used their amnesty,and then use the amnesty on Umberger?
:rollseyes:

I could be wrong but I believe that amnesty time has expired, or else I would be pushing amnesty for Scuderi's contract :L
 

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yep, amnesty window is gone.
 

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They have to buy out Umberger at seasons end. We save $3 million for the next 2 years but take a $1.5 million cap hit in year 3. Not a real option with Vinny as he still counts about $2.8 for 4 years. Flyers have money but need cap space. Too bad but we would have to wait for the end of the season. To buy out A Mac would count $4 million in year 1 but save $3-4 million over next 3 years but add $1.5 for 4 years without him. Seems like that would create another problem.
 
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shake up is needed to try to get people playing well.

Schenn.Giroux.Simmonds
Read.Lecavalier.Voracek
Laughton.Couturier.Bellemare
Who cares.
 

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This bit from Chris Rock about everything in America right now applies so well to the Flyers right now:

Let what drop?

Just let the country flatline. Let the auto industry die. Don’t bail anybody out. In sports, that’s what any new GM does. They make sure that the catastrophe is on the old management and then they clean up. They don’t try to save old management’s mistakes.

That’s clever. You let it all go to hell.

Let it all go to hell knowing good and well this is on them. That way you can implement. You hire your own coach. You get your own players. He could have got way more done. You know, we’ve all been on planes that had tremendous turbulence, but we forget all about it. Now, if you live through a plane crash, you’ll never forget that. Maybe Obama should have let the plane crash. You get credit for bringing somebody back from the dead. You don’t really get credit for helping a sick person by administering antibiotics.

Chris Rock on Ferguson, Cosby, and Obama -- Vulture
 

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shake up is needed to try to get people playing well.

Schenn.Giroux.Simmonds
Read.Lecavalier.Voracek
Laughton.Couturier.Bellemare
Who cares.

Schenn - G - Jake
Laughton - Couts - Simmonds
Schenn - G - Jake
Laughton - Couts - Simmonds
Read -Bellemare - Rallf rotated in and PK

This 2 line combination will work if the top 6 guys are willing to utilize blood doping. I would rather double shift 2 lines than see Vinny, Umberger, VV or Rinaldo at this point.

On D
Streit - Grossman
Schultz - CC
Orange Cone - Picture of Kimmo Timonen

We have MDZ, Coburn and A Mac ready if either the red cone or the picture of Timonen gets hurt.
 

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Nice of Gee to disappear in both games vs. the Rags maybe one day he'll come to play against NY.
 

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Nice of Gee to disappear in both games vs. the Rags maybe one day he'll come to play against NY.

So it's his fault that Braydon Coburn and Andrew MacDonald turn the puck over endlessly leading to goals against - or it's his fault that the bottom six forwards are trash - or his fault that previous management gave him a shitty roster to play with?

Yes, let's blame everything on Claude Giroux - because it is SO convenient and one of the two or three players that have showed up all year, should be blamed for ALL of their issues

This is the type of shit that pisses me off to no end
 

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So it's his fault that Braydon Coburn and Andrew MacDonald turn the puck over endlessly leading to goals against - or it's his fault that the bottom six forwards are trash - or his fault that previous management gave him a shitty roster to play with?

Yes, let's blame everything on Claude Giroux - because it is SO convenient and one of the two or three players that have showed up all year, should be blamed for ALL of their issues

This is the type of shit that pisses me off to no end

Bro you need to relax and kind of read posts before you try to man up. I didn't say it was Giroux's fault we lost I simply stated he was invisible once AGAIN vs the Rags. It is a continuing pattern , hasn't changed for about 10 games and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Simply stating Gee is INVISIBLE every time we play the Rags,
 

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Schenn - G - Jake
Laughton - Couts - Simmonds
Schenn - G - Jake
Laughton - Couts - Simmonds
Read -Bellemare - Rallf rotated in and PK

This 2 line combination will work if the top 6 guys are willing to utilize blood doping. I would rather double shift 2 lines than see Vinny, Umberger, VV or Rinaldo at this point.

On D
Streit - Grossman
Schultz - CC
Orange Cone - Picture of Kimmo Timonen

We have MDZ, Coburn and A Mac ready if either the red cone or the picture of Timonen gets hurt.

best pairing.

of. all. time.
 

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everyone disappears against the Rangers. The Rangers have the Flyers number, just like the Flyers had the Isles number for years, and have the Jets/Thrashers number. I honestly expect to lose every game against the Rangers.
 
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