The new generation of NFL quarterbacks

[SonnyCID]

Are you one of the assholes from PSR?

No. I'm one of the assholes from SEA.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I am sure the prior generation of Qbs were just as rowdy. You just didn't hear about it nearly as much because there was no internet or 24/7 sports media back then.

 

[Clayton]

Russell Wilson has loose morals? His wife cheats on him

I don't know. Tate, Wilson and the ex all denied the rumor. Wilson's wife had to know that Wilson was her money ticket and if they dated throughout college when Wilson went to multiple colleges then she was obviously committed to some aspect of what he brought to the table.

This thread is kinda crap, though. QB play has never been better. Its just hard to see that.

 

[Carnzo]

I may get slammed for this by Hammer at least but.
I don't give a dam what you do, just win games and bring me back the trophy
<just don't get caught>

 

[Dolemite censored]

And I won't go there with Wilson because I don't buy his phony religous act.

Its better than a thug act.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I am not a fan, sorry.

It's one thing to be single and have loose morals if you keep it behind closed doors. But when we know you have a party reputation it's hard to respect. The most recent influx of QBs are those who I would say have loose morals, are all about THAT LIFE and partying often. Big Ben did it but it was discreet until the r*pe allegations come out. However from 06-13 the superbowl winning qbs were professionals on and off the field except Big Ben. Manning was married, Eli was engaged, Brees was married and been with his wife since he was in college, Rodgers kept his lifestyle in the closet but he has in relationships, Flacco was with his wife since college and when he won the sb his wife had his second child(he was not even 30). Tom Brady was a partier when he won in 01, 03, 04 but he was also a game manager back then more than a elite qb as the pats were run first. And he had BB, who puts a muzzle on a lot of things. And I won't go there with Wilson because I don't buy his phony religous act. But it appears we are heading in a direction of qbs with loose morals. It doesn't just pertain to sleeping around but simply partying and doing dumb stuff.

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Johnny Manziel
Matthew Stafford
Colin Kapernick
Russell Wilson
Blake Bortles?

Now there is Andrew Luck who is not like these. He is either married or in a committed relationship, he does not party, and seems to have strong morals. Even if he played well in pre-season, the saints did not like Ryan Griffin's antics in the spring where he went clubbing at 4 in the morning and got hit in the face with a bottle during a dispute. That character got him cut. Phillip Rivers his first year as a starter had four kids already, grew up in a religous household. Derek Carr is married with a child.

Now am I saying that partying affects talent? No. I am saying partying affects studying tape. Brees, Rodgers, Manning are the type of qbs that spend hours upon hours studying film analyzing the defensive plays and they study the playbook as well. Their professionalism leads them to stay calm through four quarters when things get tough. Also, the older you get when you are no longer hip and cool well you start sucking. These players are using their youth, status, edge to drive them and when that's gone, they are gone. However only read options get away with this. Which is why Stafford has had more losing seasons than winning ones.

Even more six years ago or longer, these players would have been playing in the NBA. The NBA's image hurt the league and as a result people no longer were talking about it other than the playoffs. So they decide to come to the NFL instead and bring their image in this. It's like the Modest Mouse song "Lampshades of Fire"(this one's done, so where to now). The bad character types want to be part of what's big and try to change it to their liking, thereby ruining it.

There has never been a NFL generation of QBs that has been as classless as this current crop. Is Connor Cook among these types(he's close with Bryce Petty, a Christian)? Or Hackenberg?

By 2019 when Brees, Manning, maybe Brady are all out of the league how is this sport going to be watchable if this current trend continues?

I'm just speaking on your moral compass.

Everyone has a different tolerance or expectation when it comes to the lives of pro athletes off the field...while no fan feels comfortable with a Greg Hardy type on their team. I wasn't real proud of Ben even though he never faced a criminal charge...but QBs with loose morals have been around for a long, long time. From Dandy Don Meredith and Brett Farve, to the great Tom Brady (out of wedlock kid) Feel how you want about these guys, but why hop on a soapbox? Yes, this is a new generation. No, I don't like everything about the modern player, but it's entertainment for a few hours.

I was a huge NBA fan from my teens to my early 40s...I'm a decade plus pass that now, I just have a passing interest in the NBA. The hip-hop nature of the league wasn't the reason...the season is just too long for me. That said, for all of the older guys like me that are not hardcore fans anymore...the NBA still thrives...younger people still like it.

 

[Jakology]

TL;DR. If you don't like the new generation, then don't watch them. Simple.
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[Brees#1]

So by not having sex with an amazingly hot woman he is jeopardizing his NFL career?

Elite qbs that want to be respected a be role models are bigger people than sleeping around. That lifestyle is for people who are like the few I mentioned. Not every damn guy is into hooking up.

 

[Brees#1]

Charlie Sheen would have made a hell of a QB.

Charlie Sheen also has HIV.

 

[richig07]

Joe Namath, Ken Stabler, Terry Bradshaw, Jim McMahon, Brett Favre, Sammy Baugh, etc... All "old school" types, who "partied".

Who gives a rats ass? Not everyone lives in your rigid world, and shares your morals. It's apart of life. Not everyone shares the world view you do. It doesn't make them better, or worse than you. Grow up.

 

[Brees#1]

TL;DR. If you don't like the new generation, then don't watch them. Simple.
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I am only watching for two reasons

1.Fantasy. Trying to win a championship in my most important league
2.Drew Brees. When he's done it will be easier to stop.

I also have told myself and saints fans many times if Carolina or Atlanta tie the saints(esp with Brees still on the team) I would quit watching the NFL. Deep down I don't think they will tie because they are not beating NE and don't think they beat Arizona this year. Carolina will not go 13-3 next year again(if they end up having that record).

 

[YourFriendGannon]

I am only watching for two reasons

1.Fantasy. Trying to win a championship in my most important league

You take fantasy too seriously.

 

[Brees#1]

Joe Namath, Ken Stabler, Terry Bradshaw, Jim McMahon, Brett Favre, Sammy Baugh, etc... All "old school" types, who "partied".

Who gives a rats ass? Not everyone lives in your rigid world, and shares your morals. It's apart of life. Not everyone shares the world view you do. It doesn't make them better, or worse than you. Grow up.

Favre was married I thought? There's a difference between one and a bunch. Not everyone can be "awesome". And those other QBs they weren't throwing for the stats QBs today are throwing for. Which brings the point.

You have to put off partying to study film. I don't give a damn any more. I'm not a NFL qb so the rules do not apply to me. But I am not gonna respect someone I don't like, plain and simple. And those guys I don't respect.

 

[SonnyCID]

Favre was married I thought? There's a difference between one and a bunch. Not everyone can be "awesome". And those other QBs they weren't throwing for the stats QBs today are throwing for. Which brings the point.

You have to put off partying to study film. I don't give a damn any more. I'm not a NFL qb so the rules do not apply to me. But I am not gonna respect someone I don't like, plain and simple. And those guys I don't respect.

Yes, Favre was married. And he was a glaring example of why you shouldn't put so much weight in to the morality of marriage. Dude was a known party animal and womanizer.

 

[SonnyCID]

I am only watching for two reasons

1.Fantasy. Trying to win a championship in my most important league
2.Drew Brees. When he's done it will be easier to stop.

I also have told myself and saints fans many times if Carolina or Atlanta tie the saints(esp with Brees still on the team) I would quit watching the NFL. Deep down I don't think they will tie because they are not beating NE and don't think they beat Arizona this year. Carolina will not go 13-3 next year again(if they end up having that record).

This quote speaks volumes about you as a fan.

 

[NEhomer]

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Bump.

 

[Brees#1]

I'm going to go back to something here. You bring up the old QBs partying..........that was a different time. The qb has never had to work as hard as today. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers set the bar for passing. Different time, a more mature QB is going to be better than a immature one in the pocket. Mariotta, a lot of people slam him, but he plays for the titans who don't even have a big receiver or a legit runningback.

 

[NEhomer]

Bump.

 

[Dude]

 

[redseat]

Elite qbs that want to be respected a be role models are bigger people than sleeping around. That lifestyle is for people who are like the few I mentioned. Not every damn guy is into hooking up.

Did I say he is sleeping around with other women? No, I did not... I was saying, NOT sleeping with YOUR GF would interfere with his NFL career? That is just plain stupid if you think that.