The Jazz Are The Worst Team In Sports

[MHSL82]

Lost our 42nd game. So no 50-50, though we knew that for a long time. We were 26-26 both seasons (last and current) but now are 29-42. 3-16 since. We would have to go 8-3 to tie last year. Why didn’t we finish like 3-16 last year? Markkannen was out, too. 11-19 after 26-26 looks night and day better than this year.

 

[MHSL82]

Time to trade for Westbrook?

Yep, twice. Bought out the first time. This time, everywhere says waived, is that the same as a buyout?

Utah Jazz Waive Russell Westbrook

www.nba.com

 

[nuraman00]

I believe a buyout includes being waived. A buyout is for less than the contract was stated for.

Being waived, with no mention of a buyout, either means that the player gets the full money owed. Or, sometimes there's stipulations that a player must be on the roster beyond XX/YY/ZZ date to receive QRS money. If he's waived before, he doesn't get it. So a team might waive that player before that date.

 

[MHSL82]

I believe a buyout includes being waived. A buyout is for less than the contract was stated for.

Being waived, with no mention of a buyout, either means that the player gets the full money owed. Or, sometimes there's stipulations that a player must be on the roster beyond XX/YY/ZZ date to receive QRS money. If he's waived before, he doesn't get it. So a team might waive that player before that date.

We traded for a pick swap, cash consideration, and rights to some player G league team. So I think maybe Westbrook gets all his money when waived, but we got money from the Clippers?

 

[nuraman00]

We traded for a pick swap, cash consideration, and rights to some player G league team. So I think maybe Westbrook gets all his money when waived, but we got money from the Clippers?

Yes.

I don't think Koprivica, the player that was traded for, is under contract in Europe anymore. We'll see if he comes to training camp, or remains overseas.

 

[nuraman00]

The Jazz Are The Worst Team In Sports.

They were up 34 - 17 and 66 - 46 and lost.

 

[nuraman00]

The Jazz Are The Worst Team In Sports.

They didn't resign Kris Dunn.

 

[nuraman00]

Are the Jazz the first team to win a game by 41 points, and lose a game by 44 points, in back to back games? For a 84 point win / loss swing margin?

Has there been any other team to win by 40, and lose by 40, in consecutive games?

 

[MHSL82]

Hey! We won by 42! How dare you steal a point from us!

 

[nuraman00]

Hey! We won by 42! How dare you steal a point from us!

Oops, you're right.

 

[nuraman00]

The Jazz Are The Worst Team In Sports.

They are never allowed to lose to a team that Michael Jordan owns, or the Chicago Bulls.

 

[nuraman00]

I hate what the Jazz are doing. The Raptors, Pelicans, and Wizards don't intentionally rest players to lose games. They play their players and just naturally suck.

Meanwhile, I don't think Sensabaugh, George, Kessler, Markkanen, and Filipowski have played 4 consecutive games together. How do you know if those players can work together, and what deficiencies those lineups might have, unless they play together?

It shouldn't just be about getting talent through the draft. It should also be about player development; and getting a feel for what limitations or weaknesses a player might have. And to try and get complementary players that can do the things that other players can't do.

 

[MHSL82]

I hate what the Jazz are doing. The Raptors, Pelicans, and Wizards don't intentionally rest players to lose games. They play their players and just naturally suck.

Meanwhile, I don't think Sensabaugh, George, Kessler, Markkanen, and Filipowski have played 4 consecutive games together. How do you know if those players can work together, and what deficiencies those lineups might have, unless they play together?

It shouldn't just be about getting talent through the draft. It should also be about player development; and getting a feel for what limitations or weaknesses a player might have. And to try and get complementary players that can do the things that other players can't do.

I don’t give a flying f*** if a fan purchases a ticket to see a player play and the player rests. But that’s part because I want anyone in this town to be a fan of the local team. I don’t care if they’re a fan of a visitor. They have that right, but they can waste their money if that player rests. I mentioned that because that is the most common theme when people complain about resting a player is the entertainment of it and the poor fan who spent all their money to go see this player who will not play. That’s the impetus for the fines on certain absences. But I don’t care about that. I also realize there are people who were the fan of the local team, but then had to move for a job or something and now that player is supposed to be coming, but then they should be happy for the whole team not just one player. And I say this as a hypocrite in a way and that I would, if Utah had an NFL team, I would still go to see Alex Smith play.

What I care about are two things: I feel the team who wins the championship should win because they went through the grind of the season and was the strongest at the end. When a team rests their players, and they beat a team who doesn’t rest their players, I understand that people will say that the losing team’s players should’ve rested. If you can’t beat them, join them. But I see the season isn’t as a war of attrition.

Now it doesn’t make somebody have to play because they’re ok to lose with honor compared to winning. They’re going to rest so they can win and it becomes more popular. Then people talk about how the players need to preserve themselves, but they’re being paid to play and they’re being paid to compete and even if they get hurt, they get their money, so I feel that they’re getting paid to take that risk. But then again they preserve in their body so they can play multiple years rather than burn out or get injured. So I understand it, but it makes the championship less important. But then again, we never get championship so it doesn’t really matter I suppose.

The second thing that I believe is, the draft only makes sense when it really is for the worst team. I don’t like the idea that someone who isn’t the worst team makes themselves the worst team so they can get a better draft pick. I know that the NBA has a lottery system, so you can’t lose on purpose and be guaranteed, but I almost rather have it be random. I understand that woils mean that sometimes the best team in the league will get the first pick and there will be conspiracy theories about the big market getting the first pick, even though that they weren’t one of the worst teams.

But I would really like it if everybody tried to win every single game and every single player who is healthy would try to play. I would accept being a bad team and having the same Boston Celtics or Lakers winning the championship if I could guarantee those. If I can’t guarantee those, dammit, give me a championship. We don’t have one so I guess that devalues my opinion because I can easily say who cares about the championship when I don’t have one
and I don’t have prospects of getting one anytime soon. Whereas somebody who could win has more to lose. But whatever.

So why did I say all this? When you said that it shouldn’t all be through the draft, I thought that you should develop your players and have them play together and not rest and if you happen to be better because you developed players won some games, then sobeit. It’s just hard when other teams are making it harder for an honest team to get a good draft pick. Again, if you can’t beat them, join them.

 

[nuraman00]

I meant I don't want the Jazz to only focus on draft position.

I want them to play their younger players, along with potential core players like Markkanen and Kessler, so they can develop them and better evaluate what the team needs.

Yes, if they win games because players developed, that is good. If they lose games, but are playing the players, then it shows they need even more skills not currently present. But that is also good info.

 

[MHSL82]

I meant I don't want the Jazz to only focus on draft position.

I want them to play their younger players, along with potential core players like Markkanen and Kessler, so they can develop them and better evaluate what the team needs.

Yes, if they win games because players developed, that is good. If they lose games, but are playing the players, then it shows they need even more skills not currently present. But that is also good info.

Yes, I agree, but that’s not what other teams are going to do and that is what creates the problem. I don’t want to lose on purpose, and I want to develop the players that we draft and I want them to draft well regardless of where they are drafting from. But we’re in a generation where it seems that if you’re not doing whatever everyone else is doing to improve their odds, you’re falling short. It’s the honest person in a room of liars.