The GOAT

[RP-29]

At the risk of repeating myself, why the fuck would Aaron Rodger's name be brought up in a thread about the greatest QB?

A Packers fan talking to another Packers fan about quarterbacks. When using examples, common sense is to use what you know best.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Really? I thought you watched more football than that.

What specifically did Brady do last night that Alex Smith couldn't - besides maybe maintain his patience/composure down 25?....

I'm just going out on a limb here and declaring that Alex Smith will never lead his team to 31 unanswered points to win a Super Bowl. But I could be wrong...

 

[soxfan1468927]

I'm just going out on a limb here and declaring that Alex Smith will never lead his team to 31 unanswered points to win a Super Bowl. But I could be wrong...

Anyone who watched that game, and saw the Pats down 8, on their own 9 yard line, with 3:30 left to go in the game, and thought, "yeah Alex Smith could pull this off"...

And then claim others don't watch a lot of football.

 

[RP-29]

The only reason Rodgers even has 1 was because his defense gave up just 14 points and had a pick 6 in the NFC Championship. They gave up just 20 points in regulation last year and couldn't win. Gave up 22 in regulation in 2014 and couldn't win. Gave up 23 points in 2013 and couldn't win. 5 of the 7 playoff losses, they've scored 22 or fewer points.

...Against some very good defenses. Much better than Atlanta's. Again, very circumstantial.

 

[Mike A. S.]

Again I respect what he's done but he is not the best QB of all time, best accomplishments sure but not the best QB.

Just my opinion...

But if you're not going off accomplishments then what are you going off of? Talent? If you go off of just talent then you could include Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell or Tim Couch among "the greatest".

 

[soxfan1468927]

...Against some very good defenses. Much better than Atlanta's. Again, very circumstantial.

Against the same Atlanta defense, they scored just 21, and 14 of those were when they were down by 30. The 2015 Cardinals defense, while good, allowed 49 points the next week. 2014 Patriots played those 2014 Seahawks also. The 2013 49ers, while a good defense, allowed more points to Russell Wilson two weeks later than they did to Aaron Rodgers.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Also, the 10 completions Brady made to get into the red zone for the tying and winning TDs. 7 of them traveled over 10 yards. But he just "dinks and dunks". Give me a break.

 

[RP-29]

Anyone who watched that game, and saw the Pats down 8, on their own 9 yard line, with 3:30 left to go in the game, and thought, "yeah Alex Smith could pull this off"...

And then claim others don't watch a lot of football.

How do you know for certain Alex Smith couldn't? Has he ever played on a Belichick-coached team? Was he ever put in that exact situation with the same coaches, system and players around him and failed? Pure opinionated speculation either way.

I think you all know that my ultimate point with the Alex Smith name drop was to state that Brady did nothing physically extraordinary in that comeback. In fact, physically, it was rather ordinary among all starting QBs in the league. The things that were extraordinary about Brady were his patience & composure - as I stated. Do you disagree?

 

[NEhomer]

How do you know for certain Alex Smith couldn't? Has he ever played on a Belichick-coached team? Was he ever put in that exact situation with the same coaches, system and players around him and failed? Pure opinionated speculation either way.

I think you all know that my ultimate point with the Alex Smith name drop was to state that Brady did nothing physically extraordinary in that comeback. In fact, physically, it was rather ordinary among all starting QBs in the league. The things that were extraordinary about Brady were his patience & composure - as I stated. Do you disagree?

His late passes were perfectly thrown. You're butt hurt over the game.

 

[soxfan1468927]

How do you know for certain Alex Smith couldn't? Has he ever played on a Belichick-coached team? Was he ever put in that exact situation with the same coaches, system and players around him and failed? Pure opinionated speculation either way.

I think you all know that my ultimate point with the Alex Smith name drop was to state that Brady did nothing physically extraordinary in that comeback. In fact, physically, it was rather ordinary among all starting QBs in the league. The things that were extraordinary about Brady were his patience & composure - as I stated. Do you disagree?

Oh okay, how do you know I couldn't do it? How do you know a giraffe couldn't do it? You could claim any stupid thing if the only counter is that you can't absolutely prove it isn't true.

Uh no I don't agree. I'm not saying no other QB can make those throws. But they were in no way, ordinary. Just because he didn't have to roll out and fix a broken play, doesn't mean they weren't extraordinary throws. The 3rd and 10, on your own 9 yard line, with a hand in his face, throw to Hogan was tremendous. Add in the stage, and then claim that Alex Smith could make that throw? Really?

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

How do you know for certain Alex Smith couldn't? Has he ever played on a Belichick-coached team?...

No. And he won't.

 

[RP-29]

Against the same Atlanta defense, they scored just 21, and 14 of those were when they were down by 30. The 2015 Cardinals defense, while good, allowed 49 points the next week. 2014 Patriots played those 2014 Seahawks also. The 2013 49ers, while a good defense, allowed more points to Russell Wilson two weeks later than they did to Aaron Rodgers.

More circumstantial comparisons? Okay, but this is the last rebuttal since this thread is turning from the respectful sharing of perspectives into snide quips and is derailing from the intended topic.

RE: GB-ATL game - ATL opening possession - easy TD. GB opening possession - Rodgers moved the ball well - result was a missed FG. ATL 2nd possession - easy TD. GB 2nd possession - Rodgers moved the ball easily again - FB red zone fumble. ATL 3rd possession - another easy TD. And ATL kept scoring easy TDs the whole game. There was no tightened-up defense for Rodgers. In short, Rodgers was playing well from the start but his support sucked - which is a reoccurring theme with these recent Packers teams in both the regular season and playoffs. Without Rodgers, these Packers teams would be the Cleveland Browns.

And the rest of your timeline is irrelevant circumstantial cherry picking that we could go back and forth on for days. I'm not interested. Thanks for the conversation though.

 

[soxfan1468927]

More circumstantial comparisons? Okay, but this is the last rebuttal since this thread is turning from the respectful sharing of perspectives into snide quips and is derailing from the intended topic.

RE: GB-ATL game - ATL opening possession - easy TD. GB opening possession - Rodgers moved the ball well - result was a missed FG. ATL 2nd possession - easy TD. GB 2nd possession - Rodgers moved the ball easily again - FB red zone fumble. ATL 3rd possession - another easy TD. And ATL kept scoring easy TDs the whole game. There was no tightened-up defense for Rodgers. In short, Rodgers was playing well from the start but his support sucked - which is a reoccurring theme with these recent Packers teams in both the regular season and playoffs. Without Rodgers, these Packers teams would be the Cleveland Browns.

And the rest of your timeline is irrelevant circumstantial cherry picking that we could go back and forth on for days. I'm not interested. Thanks for the conversation though.

Yup and what happened when they were down 21-0? 3 and out, INT, 3 and out.

I think Rodgers is excellent, but he's no where near GOAT status yet. Last year the defense gave up 20 points in regulation and Rodgers had to pull off a Hail Mary to even get into OT. 2014 your defense forced 5 turnovers and you lost.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Poster invokes Alex Smith's name in GOAT thread then gets butthurt over snide quips derailing intended topic.

Can't make it up.

 

[Carnzo]

How do you know for certain Alex Smith couldn't? Has he ever played on a Belichick-coached team? Was he ever put in that exact situation with the same coaches, system and players around him and failed? Pure opinionated speculation either way.

I think you all know that my ultimate point with the Alex Smith name drop was to state that Brady did nothing physically extraordinary in that comeback. In fact, physically, it was rather ordinary among all starting QBs in the league. The things that were extraordinary about Brady were his patience & composure - as I stated. Do you disagree?

If, if, if, if pigs had wings they could fly.
Face it Brady it the GOAT

 

[RobToxin]

 

[redseat]

Passing 1st downs 26 to 13

 

[redseat]

Yards per pass 6.5 to 8.6 - So it's not like Brady was just dumping it off at the line.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Rodgers gets more YAC because he hits more homeruns because he airs it out more. Brady gets less because he takes the short stuff to get small chunks in front of the defenders.

Rodgers was like 7 yards a throw while Brady was 8 this year?

 

[sonnyblack65]

Tom Brady is the BOAR
Best Offensive Asisine Redux.

Dude what pills u poppin?