The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[calsnowskier]

Are we expecting any heroes to make a cameo and join the final battle?

I doubt these shows have the budget to afford any of the real names in the MCU

 

[raider bill]

Episode 5 barely advanced the plot. I was waiting for that Harry Nilson song to start playing during the boat repair montage.

 

[raider bill]

How the hell do they tie up all loose ends in an hour now?

 

[raider bill]

Why can non enhanced people now yeet around with the shield?

 

[BigFin]

Why can non enhanced people now yeet around with the shield?

That’s what I was wondering. A non enhanced person shouldn’t be able to wield it as well as an enhanced person.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

That’s what I was wondering. A non enhanced person shouldn’t be able to wield it as well as an enhanced person.

That's like the least weird thing this show has going on.

I personally liked when the world's biggest terrorist called Falcon's sister on her cell phone and Falcon's sister was just like "OMG I saw you on TV! What do you want?!?!"

Just imagine getting a phone call in 2002 from somebody who, after you said hello, was like "He buddy, it's me. Osama Bin Laden."

I would for sure believe that.

But besides that, this big baddy chick is kinda lame. First of all, she's a ginger so that annoys me quite a bit. But other than that, shouldn't Bucky just be able to completely kick her ass sideways? She has that serum but so does Bucky. She can't fight. He can. So all things equal it should just be a fight between a 120 lb ginger and a fully grown dude with all sorts of assassin training. If they get into it again Bucky should really snap her in half like a twig.

And I get that the ginger killed evil white guy Captain America's buddy, but why was his buddy even there? Evil white Captain America was apparently like the best solider they had. That one guy was just his friend. I guess old Captain America had the same thing going on but.....you know......all his friends died too. I think they should have learned from that.

But eh, this show still isn't bad. It's just not great.

 

[seattlefan75]

I feel this series is a little too woke for me. I dont understand the need to create a white vs black issue and I am not sold on a 16 year old female ginger with a european accent super soldier that can beat the shit out of dudes.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

That's like the least weird thing this show has going on.

I personally liked when the world's biggest terrorist called Falcon's sister on her cell phone and Falcon's sister was just like "OMG I saw you on TV! What do you want?!?!"

Just imagine getting a phone call in 2002 from somebody who, after you said hello, was like "He buddy, it's me. Osama Bin Laden."

I would for sure believe that.

But besides that, this big baddy chick is kinda lame. First of all, she's a ginger so that annoys me quite a bit. But other than that, shouldn't Bucky just be able to completely kick her ass sideways? She has that serum but so does Bucky. She can't fight. He can. So all things equal it should just be a fight between a 120 lb ginger and a fully grown dude with all sorts of assassin training. If they get into it again Bucky should really snap her in half like a twig.

And I get that the ginger killed evil white guy Captain America's buddy, but why was his buddy even there? Evil white Captain America was apparently like the best solider they had. That one guy was just his friend. I guess old Captain America had the same thing going on but.....you know......all his friends died too. I think they should have learned from that.

But eh, this show still isn't bad. It's just not great.

Bucky's super serum is not the same as captain Americas, it was a Hydra knock off...

this new serum is also not the same as the one given to cap... it is a knock off too.. but you have to assume a knock off made 50+ years later is a more advanced knock off... and nobody knows how the serum affects people... for all we know it can make a mouse that uses it stronger than an elephant that uses it...

As to why non enhanced people are able to throw the shield so hard, I am not questioning that part... I can imagine someone in good shape being able to wield that shield well... and it never really infers that they are throwing it as hard as Cap did...

But that lies another question, did Cap hold back while throwing the shield?? he probably did, especially when he fought mortals that he was much stronger than...

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Bucky's super serum is not the same as captain Americas, it was a Hydra knock off...

this new serum is also not the same as the one given to cap... it is a knock off too.. but you have to assume a knock off made 50+ years later is a more advanced knock off... and nobody knows how the serum affects people... for all we know it can make a mouse that uses it stronger than an elephant that uses it...

As to why non enhanced people are able to throw the shield so hard, I am not questioning that part... I can imagine someone in good shape being able to wield that shield well... and it never really infers that they are throwing it as hard as Cap did...

But that lies another question, did Cap hold back while throwing the shield?? he probably did, especially when he fought mortals that he was much stronger than...

Yeah I mean I guess there are different versions and stuff. The new one not needing to make you into a huge buff beast to use it just seems goofy though. At that point, just say it's magic.

But I guess if the bad Captain America has the same one as the little girl he's the one who really should be able to kick her ass.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yeah I mean I guess there are different versions and stuff. The new one not needing to make you into a huge buff beast to use it just seems goofy though. At that point, just say it's magic.

But I guess if the bad Captain America has the same one as the little girl he's the one who really should be able to kick her ass.

Again, who knows... people could be getting different reactions... so who knows if the new cap can beat her by himself or not....

But I guess, we know that he will because he is clearly the big fight for the falcon and the winter soldier... they have to beat him...

 

[BigFin]

Decent finale. It was mostly what I thought was going to happen.

 

[calsnowskier]

I wasn’t knocked over by the wokeness of this show until this episode.

Best way to really endear yourself to your audience is to preach. In a 5 minute speech.

 

[BigFin]

I wasn’t knocked over by the wokeness of this show until this episode.

Best way to really endear yourself to your audience is to preach. In a 5 minute speech.

Most of that writing staff is black.

 

[raider bill]

That’s what I was wondering. A non enhanced person shouldn’t be able to wield it as well as an enhanced person.

Well the other thing is Bucky and Sam are casually tossing it around and bank shotting it off trees, and in the next scene we have a Rocky montage of Sam trying to figure out how to use it.

Speaking of montages, the only thing missing from the boat repair montage was Bucky and Sam going for ice cream, the scoop falling off one of their cones and both laughing while this plays

 

[wildturkey]

They rushed the shit out of the finale to the detriment of the series. Instead of 6 episodes, this should have been 8 or at least 7.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Got too preachy and kinda lame. Still not bad though.

 

[Sparhawk]

That finale reminded me of GOT S8.
They knew what action scenes they wanted to film and then tried to write the plot around them.

It was Marvel filler, but I'd rather they take more chances the way they did with Wandavision.

 

[BigFin]

Getting excited for Loki

 

[R.J. MacReady]

That's like the least weird thing this show has going on.

I personally liked when the world's biggest terrorist called Falcon's sister on her cell phone and Falcon's sister was just like "OMG I saw you on TV! What do you want?!?!"

Just imagine getting a phone call in 2002 from somebody who, after you said hello, was like "He buddy, it's me. Osama Bin Laden."

I would for sure believe that.

But besides that, this big baddy chick is kinda lame. First of all, she's a ginger so that annoys me quite a bit. But other than that, shouldn't Bucky just be able to completely kick her ass sideways? She has that serum but so does Bucky. She can't fight. He can. So all things equal it should just be a fight between a 120 lb ginger and a fully grown dude with all sorts of assassin training. If they get into it again Bucky should really snap her in half like a twig.

And I get that the ginger killed evil white guy Captain America's buddy, but why was his buddy even there? Evil white Captain America was apparently like the best solider they had. That one guy was just his friend. I guess old Captain America had the same thing going on but.....you know......all his friends died too. I think they should have learned from that.

But eh, this show still isn't bad. It's just not great.

I don't think she was meant to be seen as a ginger at all. They wanted a look that was clearly mixed race.
She is Jamaican & Irish in real life.

 

[HuskerPower52]

I started watching but then Falcon said "You know I don't play with these white folks" Sad. and disappointed.

 

[calsnowskier]

I started watching but then Falcon said "You know I don't play with these white folks" Sad. and disappointed.

“You know I don't play with these black folks”...

Said by the hero of the story...

Could you even imagine?