The Fake Spike

[NEhomer]

So tell me, why is throwing the ball into the ground something that is penalized anyway?

Oh, that's right:

Because it's using a down as a time out.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I hope you're not suggesting the officials should be able to throw flags on what they think someone's intentions are.

It's only Goodell who can punish based on what he thinks.....

 

[chf]

Because it's using a down as a time out.

To be more accurate, it's allowing a down as a mini-time out.

 

[chf]

It's only Goodell who can punish based on what he thinks.....

And judges, and juries, and parents... and... and... well you get the picture

 

[jarntt]

Even if there's no intention to complete the pass there will almost inevitably be a receiver 'in the area'. I hope you're not suggesting the officials should be able to throw flags on what they think someone's intentions are.

Maybe if the center's ass is considered a receiver

 

[NEhomer]

To be more accurate, it's allowing a down as a mini-time out.

Semantics again. It stops the clock.

If you're going to allow intentional grounding to stop the clock, you should require the team hurrying to the line while the QB makes the spike motion to spike it just like the fair catch.

....or do away with both like the old days.

 

[fastforward]

Um, newsflash, allowing the intentional spike is relatively new.

Um, newsflash, before allowing the intentional spike QBs were allowed to intentionally throw the ball over the head of the receiver nearest the sideline. The spike just expedites the incomplete pass process.

Marino's 'fake spike' game was in 1994 so the spike had to have been around before then for it to be considered normal.

 

[NEhomer]

Of course they could throw it in the direction of a receiver. Cripes.

 

[fastforward]

Maybe if the center's ass is considered a receiver

I can see why Mark Sanchez might have a problem spiking the ball.
Normally there would be a TE or a RB within 5 yards of the QB on the spike. I don't like the spike but trying to outlaw it would require ridiculous rules. Teams would put the RB behind the G and next to the QB. The QB would then throw it at the RB's toes. Officials would be required to guess the QB's intentions.

 

[jarntt]

Um, newsflash, before allowing the intentional spike QBs were allowed to intentionally throw the ball over the head of the receiver nearest the sideline. The spike just expedites the incomplete pass process.

Marino's 'fake spike' game was in 1994 so the spike had to have been around before then for it to be considered normal.

I think it started the year before because it was still new when Marino did that.

 

[chf]

Semantics again. It stops the clock.

If you're going to allow intentional grounding to stop the clock, you should require the team hurrying to the line while the QB makes the spike motion to spike it just like the fair catch.

....or do away with both like the old days.

Or you could just leave it exactly like it is...

Should... meh.

 

[chf]

I don't like the spike but trying to outlaw it would require ridiculous rules.

They could adopt the CFL policy on clock stoppage at the end of halves. Makes for some incredible end of games.

 

[handicappers]

I think they should go back to leather helmets.

 

[jarntt]

They could adopt the CFL policy on clock stoppage at the end of halves. Makes for some incredible end of games.

How does that work?

 

[chf]

Maybe if the center's ass is considered a receiver

Wouldn't that be a 'bottom?'

 

[chf]

How does that work?

So they have a three minute warning, instead of the NFL's 2.

Then:

After the three minute warning, the play clock is run only from the snap of the ball to when the referee declares that play dead. Thus, the closing minutes of a CFL game can seem like an eternity, with miraculous comebacks by trailing teams.

The other factor that keeps the game moving along is the time clock. A CFL team has only 20 seconds to get the next play off after the ref starts the clock.

 

[jarntt]

Wow. Didn't realize CFL was that different in that regard. I would kind of hate that. 2 minute versus 3 minute no big deal. The other two are huge changes. The 20 seconds play clock all game is nuts.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

And judges, and juries, and parents... and... and... well you get the picture

Many times folks such as that have some evidence to run with..... But when they manifest their inner Rog, they are just as incorrect as he is.....

 

[Hank Kingsley]

They could adopt the CFL policy on clock stoppage at the end of halves. Makes for some incredible end of games.

I need to take some sort of motion sickness avoidance medication when I watch the CFL. Grew up on it but it just seems so busy these days.

 

[chf]

I need to take some sort of motion sickness avoidance medication when I watch the CFL. Grew up on it but it just seems so busy these days.

I think maybe you need to get your inner ear checked gramps.

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