The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[fightinfunbags]

I've always found it bizarre he can't find a role. Drummond was a plus 10 on/off in 18 19 with Detroit. Then they shipped him off for nothing and his fit in Cleveland was nothing short of atrocious. Since then he's carried a positive on/off in most situations.

Idk if you can peg him as a starter on a good playoff team but he certainly seems valuable enough for 15 to 20

I’d take him as Embiid’s back up in a heartbeat. I’d send Morris and 2 firsts for Caruso Drum.

 

[thunderc]

I just don’t really like the player in question here. Young is great I just don’t see the upside on Wendall Carter Jr. Drum is inexpensive and a vet. It keeps them on track with having assets after they see what they need in the playoffs and you give them another vet presence in the locker room with a guy who can give them rebounding and on ball defense vs most 5s freeing Chet up to roam. Drum becomes a basketball experiment. What does it look like with Chet at 4 next to a 5 that only exists for those stated purposes and isn’t gonna demand a ton of shots.

Presti is not going to get anyone that will slow down how they play or plug things up, at any point in the game. That would be the argument against Drummond. Honestly they are showing a traditional center is not required in any way.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Presti is not going to get anyone that will slow down how they play or plug things up, at any point in the game. That would be the argument against Drummond. Honestly they are showing a traditional center is not required in any way.

That’s fair commentary on Drum. He can’t get up and down.

 

[trojanfan12]

I can't wrap my brain around why teams deal with LA. Further if they trade away all their depth (again) it's just more of the same.

I don't think they'd have to give up much depth. From what I've read, it'd likely be Reaves and Max Christie. I'd assume there'd be a pick or 2 included.

Problem for the Lakers could be that if someone else wants him bad enough, they could beat that offer...that's when the Lakers would have to decide how much depth they're willing to give up.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I don't think they'd have to give up much depth. From what I've read, it'd likely be Reaves and Max Christie. I'd assume there'd be a pick or 2 included.

Problem for the Lakers could be that if someone else wants him bad enough, they could beat that offer...that's when the Lakers would have to decide how much depth they're willing to give up.

The Hawks gave up 3 first rounders for him. Reaves obviously has nice value and Atlanta isn't getting anything for Murray if he leaves....but that said it feels like we are always landing on this poo poo parade of picks a hundred years from now with LA and yet somehow they're thr favs to get him

 

[wildturkey]

He’d be a nice piece for them for sure.

I don't like his shooting and think his defense is a tad overrated. His 3% this year is solid but you just know as soon as he gets to the Lakers, he'll revert back to the low 30s. It's a better piece than Lavine but I'm not super high on it

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

LA and yet somehow they're thr favs to get him

Because of Klutch.

But, Dejounte just signed a 4 year deal.

They can send him wherever the fuck they like.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Because of Klutch.

Bu, Dejounte just signed a 4 year deal.

They can send him wherever the fuck they like.

of course they can.

Why would they pick LA?

 

[trojanfan12]

of course they can.

Why would they pick LA?

If they have the best offer, why wouldn't they?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

If they have the best offer, why wouldn't they?

The Knicks have 3 first round picks via Dallas, Detroit and Washington for starters.

The Lakers will need a 3rd team to land Murray imo. And in that case why are teams going out of their way to help LA

 

[trojanfan12]

The Knicks have 3 first round picks via Dallas, Detroit and Washington for starters.

The Lakers will need a 3rd team to land Murray imo. And in that case why are teams going out of their way to help LA

The Knicks also are interested in at least 1 and maybe 2 other players. If the Knicks place a higher priority on one or both of those players, they may not be able to beat the Lakers offer.

Also, I didn't ask who could beat the Lakers offer, I asked why they wouldn't accept the Lakers offer if it's the best one?

Although, based on your 3rd team option, your answer seems to be "because it's the Lakers".

 

[Stakesarehigh]

The Knicks also are interested in at least 1 and maybe 2 other players. If the Knicks place a higher priority on one or both of those players, they may not be able to beat the Lakers offer.

Also, I didn't ask who could beat the Lakers offer, I asked why they wouldn't accept the Lakers offer if it's the best one?

Although, based on your 3rd team option, your answer seems to be "because it's the Lakers".

They absolutely would take the Lakers if they're the best offer. How do they get there? Austin Reaves and a first rounder in 6 or 8 years?

My entire contention on this is why are the Lakers the favorites? It makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Pastafazul]

Knicks improved…

More of a threat, short of contender

Much better ball movement with Robinson off court, but missing his D

Go Knicks

Spree in crowd wantin to choke someone , Gobert?

 

[trojanfan12]

They absolutely would take the Lakers if they're the best offer. How do they get there? Austin Reaves and a first rounder in 6 or 8 years?

My entire contention on this is why are the Lakers the favorites? It makes no sense whatsoever.

It makes sense if they have the most interest along with pieces the "experts" believe the Hawks would accept. You pointed out that the Knicks could make a better offer. But, as I pointed out, they are said to also have interest in at least 1 or 2 other players. Depends on their priority. I have seen other teams that have been said to be interested, but I haven't heard of anyone who has him as a priority like the Lakers apparently have. The other teams interest seem to be more of the "if we can't get one of these other guys, we'll go after Murray" situations.

Also, the Knicks are an EC team and the Hawks may not be particularly interested in trading him to a team they're going to have to face 4+ times per year when they can send him to a WC team and only have to face him twice.

Fit matters as well. Part of the reason the Hawks are willing to move Murray is that he and Trae Young don't fit well together. They are said to be insisting that Reaves be part of the deal. My guess is that they feel he would fit better with Trae...so they may be willing to take a slightly "worse" deal from the Lakers if they don't feel the main piece in a "better" deal is going to fit as well as Reaves.

When the Lakers traded Westbrook, they didn't get a single player who was better than him. But they did get a couple of players who fit better with Lebron and AD and the season ended up going a lot better for them because of that.

 

[Pastafazul]

Knicks bout to do what they do best…

 

[msgkings322]

Knicks bout to do what they do best…

Bore us?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

If they have the best offer, why wouldn't they?

Because there is no rush to take the least smelly shit sandwich when the guy has 3 years after this one left on his deal.

Haven't heard anything suggesting he is being a malcontent.

So, no need to rush to make a bad deal.

Not like anything on your roster, outside the obvious 2 is actually better than having Dejounte.

Frankly, I'm confused as to why they want to deal him to begin with, unless they are getting back someone better.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Hate to lose Reaves and would try everything to keep him, but end of the day, I don't let that keep me from making the trade

Fuck no.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

They absolutely would take the Lakers if they're the best offer. How do they get there? Austin Reaves and a first rounder in 6 or 8 years?

My entire contention on this is why are the Lakers the favorites? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Vegas.

They love to take these idiot fanbases to the cleaners.

You have Reaves who is a player that I think teams would like, who's on a good contract.

He doesn't make enough to do a straight up.swap so you have to look at players as salary filler.

Why would Atlanta want D Lo?

Dude disappears every 3rd-5th game.

The backcourt combo of him and Trae would be a shitshow defensively.

They just gave Collins away for pesos on the Dollar.

So, why would they want Rui?

Every semi Star Klutch client gets linked to the Lakers.

Common sense should tell you it's cap.

This is all based on that Shams report.


Rumors continue to swirl about potential trades the Los Angeles Lakers could make ahead of the NBA deadline on February 8, 2024. The latest Vegas odds at Bovada sportsbook have the Lakers as the favorites to land Atlanta Hawks guard Dejounte Murray.

The odds are listed with a caveat “if not [on the] Atlanta Hawks” after the trade deadline. Los Angeles is the current favorites with -115 odds with the Knicks as a close second at +105. Well down the odds are the Raptors, 76ers, Thunder and Heat who are tied with +950 odds. Vegas is likely responding to The Athletic’s Shams Charania’s report regarding the Lakers’ interest in Murray.

“The Hawks’ direction of course, it’s in flux,” Charania adds. “They gave up multiple first-round picks [and] a swap to go get Dejounte Murray a couple summers ago from the Spurs. So, when you look at the Lakers’ asset pool, they have one first-round pick they can trade now. Or they could wait until draft time and they’ll have three first-round picks to trade.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

The Knicks have 3 first round picks via Dallas, Detroit and Washington for starters.

The Lakers will need a 3rd team to land Murray imo. And in that case why are teams going out of their way to help LA

Unfortunately, politics play a part in all this.

Again: Klutch is an issue.

People like to brush this complication aside.

But, look who the Knicks were finally able to land...

OG, the guy who kicked Klutch to the curb and who hassaid he's willing to take less to play in NY.


The New York Knicks reportedly have interest in trading for Dejounte Murray of the Atlanta Hawks. One challenge is that Murray is represented by Rich Paul of Klutch Sports. Paul, and Klutch Sports, are reluctant to work with the Knicks. This seems to be driven by the presence of Leon Rose and Williams Wesley, who lead the New York front office