The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[trojanfan12]

Is this the rule for Joker as well? Cause without Jamal Murray he leads his team to a 5 or 6 seed and a first round exit. With Jamal Murray closing games, Denver goes to the WCF in the bubble and then an NBA title.

If “look at the other guys” is your argument how does that not apply to Joker?

Never said it didn't. Neither team is as good without the play supporting cast. All I said is that neither has done anything to change the order.

 

[trojanfan12]

Every bit as much as Joker lost all by himself I guess.

Thhere you go. Nether has done anything to change the order. Just like I said.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Never said it didn't. Neither team is as good without the play supporting cast. All I said is that neither has done anything to change the order.

What order? There is no order. It’s fugaze social media nonsense.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[thunderc]

Thhere you go. Nether has done anything to change the order. Just like I said.

There is no order, not yet

 

[trojanfan12]

lol

Yeah, no one had them ranked or does now.

 

[thunderc]

lol

Yeah, no one had them ranked or does now.

If you can’t see what’s being said that’s on you. Even if the rankings were real, which they aren’t, they don’t mean shit.

 

[bksballer89]

If you can’t see what’s being said that’s on you. Even if the rankings were real, which they aren’t, they don’t mean shit.

And these awards are pushed by media narrative a lot. See Marcus Smart DPOY a few years ago. That was Bridges or Williams award until the media pushed smart name heavy late in the season. A lot of these media guys barely watch any basketball and yet voting on important awards

 

[trojanfan12]

And these awards are pushed by media narrative a lot. See Marcus Smart DPOY a few years ago. That was Bridges or Williams award until the media pushed smart name heavy late in the season. A lot of these media guys barely watch any basketball and yet voting on important awards

And those are the guys voting for it and it's their order.

 

[thunderc]

And those are the guys voting for it and it's their order.

Ok I’ll play along. If it is an order are you actually saying that guys can’t change their mind? Shai just did something no one has done since the goat did it. Is that not allowed to be considered? The answer is yes, there are many reasons voters could use to justify changing their minds, but in truth no one’s mind was ever made up on the first place. That’s the real stupidity of your argument.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

the gd celtics just keep kicking ass.

 

[tlance]

So we just going to give Jokic every year the rest of his career when he avg somewhere around 25/12/9 as long as Denver is a top 4 seed? Crazy how he is the only player in nba history where they don’t use the voter fatigue bullshit excuse. When LeBron and Giannis did this then they intentionally stopped making them win

Not even close to what I said.

Fine with Shai getting the award.

But the best player should get the award every single year regardless of how many times they earned it before.

And what you said about people who vote for Jokic losing their vote is just a really bad comment.

You should take that back.

 

[bksballer89]

Not even close to what I said.

Fine with Shai getting the award.

But the best player should get the award every single year regardless of how many times they earned it before.

And what you said about people who vote for Jokic losing their vote is just a really bad comment.

You should take that back.

So Lebron was only the best player 4 seasons in his career? Once again, they can't pick and choose when they want to use the voter fatigue excuse but for a weird reason it doesn't apply to Jokic

 

[fightinfunbags]

And these awards are pushed by media narrative a lot. See Marcus Smart DPOY a few years ago. That was Bridges or Williams award until the media pushed smart name heavy late in the season. A lot of these media guys barely watch any basketball and yet voting on important awards

They don’t watch games. They instead are married to analytics. Joker is an analytics darling because of his assists from the center position and the fact that he has no other role defensively than to rebound.

 

[eaglesnut]

What I will say is there is no reason to give Jokic the MVP over SGA

Denver doing what people expected them to do while SGA got his team playing out of their mind. Everyone expected a jump from OKC but not top 4 seed type of jump (possibly top seed out west)

A lot of voters need to lose their vote if they give the MVP to Jokic again

It should go to Embiid.

He proved how valuable he was when he played and he proved how valuable he was when he didn't.

Clear MVP.

 

[bksballer89]

Clippers at Bucks tonight

 

[trojanfan12]

Ok I’ll play along. If it is an order are you actually saying that guys can’t change their mind? Shai just did something no one has done since the goat did it. Is that not allowed to be considered? The answer is yes, there are many reasons voters could use to justify changing their minds, but in truth no one’s mind was ever made up on the first place. That’s the real stupidity of your argument.

Never said they couldn't change their mind. Just that it doesn't appear they have and neither player has done anything to change it.

 

[trojanfan12]

It should go to Embiid.

Haven't followed them very closely. But, if the Sixers have been losing a bunch of games since he's been out...it does make a case. Problem is, the 65 game requirement is going to make him ineligible.

 

[dtgold88]

Well that didn't take long. 1 minute after tip off.
The Knicks are so damn snake bit it's no longer funny.

Didn't matter in that game....but no doubt if he's out a while that's a major problem.

 

[dtgold88]

Damn impressive road win by the Knicks earlier...107-98.
I thought for sure they were gonna lose in Cleveland after Brunson's injury in the 1st qtr.
But they stepped up and wanted it more than the Cavs.
DDV, JHart & Bogdanovic were huge. Good games also from Achiuwa and McBride.





Now about the Dubs' effort in Boston.....Yikes.

No doubt the Cavs "fans" are overreacting and it was a huge W for NY under circumstances. Props to them, for sure.

But we also beat Denver without Mitchell and Levert. Happens.