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They still had a solid team and the injury excuse had better not be started (not saying you are but fans of the Cavs)


Lmao

Thy didn't play in the most important series of the season

"Excuses"
 

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not one, not 2, not 3, not 4 losses...

So, thaaaat's what he meant. All this time we all thought he was counting championships before he won them. Turns out, he was counting championships before he lost them.

Makes so much more sense now. :lol:
 

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Yeah, that makes sense

Jesus


It does actually. If the point is that LeBron was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5 in the Finals.

And that was my point.
 

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Do the Cavs make it to the finals without Irving?


Yes, but mostly cause the East was awful

I give Irving credit for being a part of the run, I just recognize what was pretty superhuman by Lebron this series. That roster was just an atrocity
 

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Stargell for Clemente and Parker for Stargell.


Did I win?
It was a trick question. Clemente was actually the second best player in Clemente's second World Series. But you got the other one right.
 

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It does actually. If the point is that LeBron was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5 in the Finals.

And that was my point.


Ok I guess Jordan sucks, cause guys like Kerr and Paxson spent a career hitting clutch 3's in big games
 

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It does actually. If the point is that LeBron was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5 in the Finals.

And that was my point.

Should we start speculating on every player's finals record if a game-changing shot did or didn't go down?

If Paxson or Kerr or Horry didn't hit this shot or that shot or that shot... stupid
 

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It was a trick question. Clemente was actually the second best player in Clemente's second World Series. But you got the other one right.



Damn. (Kicks the dog).
 

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If all one is doing is evaluating a player's individual performance and effort, you can take the relative strength of the team into account. LeBron did the best he could under the circumstances and proved how good he is. His team lost. No excuses for that but LeBron is still the King.
the king of finals sub mediocrity?
 

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Should we start speculating on every player's finals record if a game-changing shot did or didn't go down?

If Paxson or Kerr or Horry didn't hit this shot or that shot or that shot... stupid


Would have changed the record with s loss. We're talking finals records here. MJ 6-0. LeBron 2-4. I merely stated he was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5.

Understand? There's no other point here.

Just the record.
 

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Everyone is entitled to their take on a player... that's what sports is all about.

But I'm just going to say that if this season's and this Final's performance from LeBron James diminished his overall legacy/career in your eyes.... rather than helped it..... you are probably either not a smart person or not paying attention or just overly caught up in the emotion of you want to see.
 

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Would have changed the record with s loss. We're talking finals records here. MJ 6-0. LeBron 2-4. I merely stated he was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5.

Understand? There's no other point here.

Just the record.


Just revisionist history, cause you don't know how many Kerr or Paxson shots extended a game or series

Because you didn't hate Jordan

Understood
 

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Would have changed the record with s loss. We're talking finals records here. MJ 6-0. LeBron 2-4. I merely stated he was a Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-5.

Understand? There's no other point here.

Just the record.

I know what you stated. You're adding a provision to that outcome... but none of the other's because you want to paint a certain picture.
 

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Everyone is entitled to their take on a player... that's what sports is all about.

But I'm just going to say that if this season's and this Final's performance from LeBron James diminished his overall legacy/career in your eyes.... rather than helped it..... you are probably either not a smart person or not paying attention or just overly caught up in the emotion of you want to see.


Dude so perfectly said

When you hate a Player, and most chiming in here obviously hate him, I know Rock does, you don't see things got the way they are

"He Lost"

Fingers in the ears, "NaNaNaNaNa"
 

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Everyone is entitled to their take on a player... that's what sports is all about.

But I'm just going to say that if this season's and this Final's performance from LeBron James diminished his overall legacy/career in your eyes.... rather than helped it..... you are probably either not a smart person or not paying attention or just overly caught up in the emotion of you want to see.
hes 2 wins and 4 losses in the finals.

injuries happen

some guys can carry a team, some cant.
 
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