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Because of his OPS over 800 almost 40 HRs and high on base percentage, overall high athletic ability and superior defense. It is thought he has not gotten close to his ceiling as of yet.
To me the mental blocks are what need to be solved
i just don't think he is capable of solving these mental blocks and he isn't going to listen to whatever the coaches are telling him. i think the Rangers saw him as a lost cause which is why they traded him
 

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i just don't think he is capable of solving these mental blocks and he isn't going to listen to whatever the coaches are telling him. i think the Rangers saw him as a lost cause which is why they traded him
He was one of others that had to go if we are serious about rebuilding. Let someone else worry about his mentality. Hope they can help him especially in the NL.
 

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He was one of others that had to go if we are serious about rebuilding. Let someone else worry about his mentality. Hope they can help him especially in the NL.
I agree that it was absolutely the right trade. I do think he has value but a team of 9 Gallos won’t win it all. And yes not a rebuild piece but perhaps in another year if a fit occurs
Most of you would say absolutely not….me hmm maybe
We will watch his career closely Padawan.
 

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I agree that it was absolutely the right trade. I do think he has value but a team of 9 Gallos won’t win it all. And yes not a rebuild piece but perhaps in another year if a fit occurs
Most of you would say absolutely not….me hmm maybe
We will watch his career closely Padawan.
I wonder how different things would have been with Gallo if we had had these hitting coaches in place two years ago.
 

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I wonder how different things would have been with Gallo if we had had these hitting coaches in place two years ago.
Or dare I say a stronger manager. He really needed to develop a shorter stroke. But yes hitting coach may have helped. He did do worse on Yanks though

Perhaps fools gold a few years ago pre Covid and injury when he was looking MVP caliber
 

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I think Gallo turned out the way he was always going to turn out. Tons of power, good/great defense, but way too many K's and not enough non-HR hits.
 

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I think Gallo turned out the way he was always going to turn out. Tons of power, good/great defense, but way too many K's and not enough non-HR hits.
I don't think anyone expected what he does defensively though. He was thought to be going to the outfield just to get this bat in the lineup. I think even his play at 3B was better than what most expected and even more so at 1B. Then he moved to the OF and became Gold Glove caliber. When he first came up, no one saw that coming.
 

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This is from Jeff Wilson this morning. He and I feel the same way about Suzuki at this point.

The expectation is the Rangers will attempt to sign outfielder Seiya Suzuki and a veteran starting pitcher. As time has worn out and the excitement generated by the Rangers’ spending spree has petered out, it’s worth considering if the Rangers should do those two things.

A starting pitcher? Yes. The Rangers could go without one, but that wouldn’t fit their plan for not rushing young pitchers in the minors and limiting their workloads.

Suzuki? That move the Rangers can probably do without.

The Rangers have enough outfielders and believe they have enough outfielders with upside to navigate 2022 and beyond. And if those outfielders — namely Leody Taveras and Willie Calhoun — don’t pan out, the Rangers could turn to free agency next offseason.

Joey Gallo will be a free agent, and it seems like he would be very interested in returning.

The Rangers are also about to turn some middle infielders into outfielders. It might not happen immediately this season, but don’t be surprised to see several players getting acclimated to the outfield.

There is some concern about second baseman Justin Foscue, the 2020 first-rounder, playing out there because of a foot issue he had in 2020, but he is certain he could do it. If he becomes the threat with the bat many believe he will, he will need a place to play.

First baseman Dustin Harris, the Rangers Minor League Player of the Year, is being moved to the outfield this season. Blaine Crim, the Puerto Rican Winter League batting champion, is a first baseman who can play left field.

Many believe Suzuki will break the streak of Japanese positions players who haven’t panned out in the majors, but there’s no guarantee. However, he’s also expected to be reasonably affordable, and the value might be too good for the Rangers to pass up.

They are going to try, it would appear, but Suzuki feels more of a luxury item than a necessity.
 

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I don't think anyone expected what he does defensively though. He was thought to be going to the outfield just to get this bat in the lineup. I think even his play at 3B was better than what most expected and even more so at 1B. Then he moved to the OF and became Gold Glove caliber. When he first came up, no one saw that coming.

fair point, I will agree that no one was predicting a Gold Glove caliber result from him in the OF.

It's just strange to me how there are a handful of fairly technical offensive stats that Joey has that are top 10-20% compared to the rest of the league, none of which appear in a box score, and people act like he's bound for Cooperstown.
 

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This is from Jeff Wilson this morning. He and I feel the same way about Suzuki at this point.

The expectation is the Rangers will attempt to sign outfielder Seiya Suzuki and a veteran starting pitcher. As time has worn out and the excitement generated by the Rangers’ spending spree has petered out, it’s worth considering if the Rangers should do those two things.

A starting pitcher? Yes. The Rangers could go without one, but that wouldn’t fit their plan for not rushing young pitchers in the minors and limiting their workloads.

Suzuki? That move the Rangers can probably do without.

The Rangers have enough outfielders and believe they have enough outfielders with upside to navigate 2022 and beyond. And if those outfielders — namely Leody Taveras and Willie Calhoun — don’t pan out, the Rangers could turn to free agency next offseason.

Joey Gallo will be a free agent, and it seems like he would be very interested in returning.

The Rangers are also about to turn some middle infielders into outfielders. It might not happen immediately this season, but don’t be surprised to see several players getting acclimated to the outfield.

There is some concern about second baseman Justin Foscue, the 2020 first-rounder, playing out there because of a foot issue he had in 2020, but he is certain he could do it. If he becomes the threat with the bat many believe he will, he will need a place to play.

First baseman Dustin Harris, the Rangers Minor League Player of the Year, is being moved to the outfield this season. Blaine Crim, the Puerto Rican Winter League batting champion, is a first baseman who can play left field.

Many believe Suzuki will break the streak of Japanese positions players who haven’t panned out in the majors, but there’s no guarantee. However, he’s also expected to be reasonably affordable, and the value might be too good for the Rangers to pass up.

They are going to try, it would appear, but Suzuki feels more of a luxury item than a necessity.

Wow this is a very interesting take. Yes it isn’t the end of the world if we don’t get Suzuki especially since the wealth of suitors

And we could wait a year to see how our guys develop. Brings in Gallo too as a potential target
 

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This is from Jeff Wilson this morning. He and I feel the same way about Suzuki at this point.

The expectation is the Rangers will attempt to sign outfielder Seiya Suzuki and a veteran starting pitcher. As time has worn out and the excitement generated by the Rangers’ spending spree has petered out, it’s worth considering if the Rangers should do those two things.

A starting pitcher? Yes. The Rangers could go without one, but that wouldn’t fit their plan for not rushing young pitchers in the minors and limiting their workloads.

Suzuki? That move the Rangers can probably do without.

The Rangers have enough outfielders and believe they have enough outfielders with upside to navigate 2022 and beyond. And if those outfielders — namely Leody Taveras and Willie Calhoun — don’t pan out, the Rangers could turn to free agency next offseason.

Joey Gallo will be a free agent, and it seems like he would be very interested in returning.

The Rangers are also about to turn some middle infielders into outfielders. It might not happen immediately this season, but don’t be surprised to see several players getting acclimated to the outfield.

There is some concern about second baseman Justin Foscue, the 2020 first-rounder, playing out there because of a foot issue he had in 2020, but he is certain he could do it. If he becomes the threat with the bat many believe he will, he will need a place to play.

First baseman Dustin Harris, the Rangers Minor League Player of the Year, is being moved to the outfield this season. Blaine Crim, the Puerto Rican Winter League batting champion, is a first baseman who can play left field.

Many believe Suzuki will break the streak of Japanese positions players who haven’t panned out in the majors, but there’s no guarantee. However, he’s also expected to be reasonably affordable, and the value might be too good for the Rangers to pass up.


They are going to try, it would appear, but Suzuki feels more of a luxury item than a necessity.

Wait... you want to pass on Suzuki now?
 

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I hope they don’t ban the shift but that is another thing I thought for into Gallos head.
He really needs to spray the ball a little more
 

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I hope they don’t ban the shift but that is another thing I thought for into Gallos head.
He really needs to spray the ball a little more
I hope they ban the shift.
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Wait... you want to pass on Suzuki now?
Yes, I do. Once we signed both Semien and Seagar that changed things for me. I still think he will be a good player, I just think between all of the options we for the OF now that he isn't needed.

I feel the same about just about any pitcher we could sign for more than 2 or 3 years. We have great options for the rotation and the OF in our system, and many of them aren't more than a year away.
 

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Yes, I do. Once we signed both Semien and Seagar that changed things for me. I still think he will be a good player, I just think between all of the options we for the OF now that he isn't needed.

I feel the same about just about any pitcher we could sign for more than 2 or 3 years. We have great options for the rotation and the OF in our system, and many of them aren't more than a year away.

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Yes, I do. Once we signed both Semien and Seagar that changed things for me. I still think he will be a good player, I just think between all of the options we for the OF now that he isn't needed.

I feel the same about just about any pitcher we could sign for more than 2 or 3 years. We have great options for the rotation and the OF in our system, and many of them aren't more than a year away.
what options? we got Taveras and Garcia. Kole Calhoun is a below average outfielder and a good DH. Willie is an average DH and a liability in the field. and other than them we've got Reks, White, Walker and Thompson. not much of a selection.

of course, we could go after Suzuki on a multi-year deal or Pham, Dickerson or Rosario on a one year deal
 

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fair point, I will agree that no one was predicting a Gold Glove caliber result from him in the OF.

It's just strange to me how there are a handful of fairly technical offensive stats that Joey has that are top 10-20% compared to the rest of the league, none of which appear in a box score, and people act like he's bound for Cooperstown.
And like the pandemic he won't go away even after three shots.
 
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