Texas Rangers 2021 - 2022 Offseason Thread

[Nightcrawler]

Banny was a good hire at the time. I never got the impression he favored Odor to any extreme degree and I don't think Odor/Bautista had anything to do with Banny.

Banny didn't "come out of nowhere." He had been a coach for many years, and there is a 100% chance he was going to be a MLB manager at some point. He interviewed for the job, as did multiple people, and was given the job. Had nothing to do with "winning JD over."

Bogar wasn't "the obvious choice." I'm not sure why/how people think that. It's been 7 years and Bogar still hasn't been hired by any team as a manager, so it's probably time to get rid of the narrative that Bogar deserved to be the manager based on a couple of weeks.

watch this and tell me Odor Wasn’t Banister’s favorite :

 

[True Rangers Fan]

watch this and tell me Odor Wasn’t Banister’s favorite :

I don't make a habit of defining an entire relationship based on a 30 second clip.

 

[saddles]

Meant it bodes well as they did deal Elvis

Yeah, that is my point. They gave lip service to Elvis playing 3B while looking to trade him.

 

[Nightcrawler]

I don't make a habit of defining an entire relationship based on a 30 second clip.

Banister was awful. He kept getting pantsed by the Jays.

 

[Kelleyman]

GM. I guess Levi Weaver could not convince Jon Lester to forgo retirement and sign with the Rangers

 

[saddles]

Jim Bowden has a column out where he reacts to different trade proposals that were suggested to him. Here is one concerning the Rangers.

Rangers trade 1B Nathaniel Lowe, 2B Justin Foscue, RHP Glenn Otto and C Sam Huff to A’s for 1B Matt Olson — Louis M.
If I’m the A’s, I’d pass on this offer without a counter. I like Lowe’s power, but he can be pitched to. Foscue is the best player in the package but not enough for Olson. Otto didn’t impress me during his call-up last season (six starts, 9.26 ERA in 23 1/3 innings) and he’s 25 years old, and Huff is just an extra player at best. Back to the drawing board, Louis.

 

[scotsman1948]

Yeah, that is my point. They gave lip service to Elvis playing 3B while looking to trade him.

and i imagine at some point they will probably trade IKF but not until they are comfortable with Jung hitting at the MLB level. what's your plan if they trade IKF now and Jung comes out of the gate struggling?

 

[scotsman1948]

Jim Bowden has a column out where he reacts to different trade proposals that were suggested to him. Here is one concerning the Rangers.

Rangers trade 1B Nathaniel Lowe, 2B Justin Foscue, RHP Glenn Otto and C Sam Huff to A’s for 1B Matt Olson — Louis M.
If I’m the A’s, I’d pass on this offer without a counter. I like Lowe’s power, but he can be pitched to. Foscue is the best player in the package but not enough for Olson. Otto didn’t impress me during his call-up last season (six starts, 9.26 ERA in 23 1/3 innings) and he’s 25 years old, and Huff is just an extra player at best. Back to the drawing board, Louis.

would not do that much for Olsen. unlike some i'm not ready to unload any of those players. some want to hang on to other players who have had plenty of time to show something and haven't, while seemingly wanting to dump others without seeing what they can do

 

[jta4437]

Jim Bowden has a column out where he reacts to different trade proposals that were suggested to him. Here is one concerning the Rangers.

Rangers trade 1B Nathaniel Lowe, 2B Justin Foscue, RHP Glenn Otto and C Sam Huff to A’s for 1B Matt Olson — Louis M.
If I’m the A’s, I’d pass on this offer without a counter. I like Lowe’s power, but he can be pitched to. Foscue is the best player in the package but not enough for Olson. Otto didn’t impress me during his call-up last season (six starts, 9.26 ERA in 23 1/3 innings) and he’s 25 years old, and Huff is just an extra player at best. Back to the drawing board, Louis.

I would do definitely do that for Olson, but the A's would shut the door in my face

 

[saddles]

Saturday is international signing day.

Keep an eye on these 12 Cuban free agents

There are currently more than 150 Cuban-born players in the Major Leagues and Minor Leagues, and more are on the way. Several Cuban players are expected to sign during the 2022 international signing period, which runs until Dec. 15, including prospects with national team and Serie Nacional...

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[saddles]

Where top int'l prospects are signing

The international signing period, which runs through Dec. 15, is officially underway. Hundreds of international prospects are taking the next step in their development when they sign with big league clubs and there will be hundreds more who will follow them until the middle of December.

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[jta4437]

Jim Bowden has a column out where he reacts to different trade proposals that were suggested to him. Here is one concerning the Rangers.

Rangers trade 1B Nathaniel Lowe, 2B Justin Foscue, RHP Glenn Otto and C Sam Huff to A’s for 1B Matt Olson — Louis M.
If I’m the A’s, I’d pass on this offer without a counter. I like Lowe’s power, but he can be pitched to. Foscue is the best player in the package but not enough for Olson. Otto didn’t impress me during his call-up last season (six starts, 9.26 ERA in 23 1/3 innings) and he’s 25 years old, and Huff is just an extra player at best. Back to the drawing board, Louis.

It's the quality of the pitching prospect, Bowden pretty much nailed it on him

 

[saddles]

It's the quality of the pitching prospect, Bowden pretty much nailed it on him

When we trade Foscue I hope it is for someone with more than 2 years of control.

 

[saddles]

Bonus Pools For 2021-22 International Signing Market

The 2021-22 international signing period opens on January 15, as for the second straight season, the usual July 2 opening …

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[scotsman1948]

The only ones I would part with would be, Lowe, Calhoun, Heim and Solak..

W. Calhoun and Solak are the ones for me

 

[Kelleyman]

I like getting Olson but without an extension why would we want him?
Really doubt if we are all in next year. So he becomes pretty much a rental.
Would think he is if more value to a proven contender this year

Also seems like our farm is on the rise and compares quite favorably to others.
Other than pitching, we don’t have guys who look like superstars but line them up with others i other systems their top guys don’t rank as high in ours overall

 

[scotsman1948]

It's the quality of the pitching prospect, Bowden pretty much nailed it on him

and that pitching prospect was dumped into the Starting rotation because we had no one else and he understandably struggled against MLB hitters. i would put him at AA or AAA in 2022 and let him work out the issues.

 

[saddles]

I like getting Olson but without an extension why would we want him?
Really doubt if we are all in next year. So he becomes pretty much a rental.
Would think he is if more value to a proven contender this year

Also seems like our farm is on the rise and compares quite favorably to others.
Other than pitching, we don’t have guys who look like superstars but line them up with others i other systems their top guys don’t rank as high in ours overall

I am not certain that management isn't in a stealth version of being all-in. The signing of both Seager and Semien points in that direction, but it is too early to say for sure. I think they will do all they can do to make the postseason and do a little damage once there in 2022. I think! We will find out soon enough once the lockout is over. I still expect 5 to 8 of our top 20 prospects will be traded by July 31, 2022.

I was hoping we would stay patient, but that appears to be out the window. Speaking of windows, I think they are going for an earlier window. I wanted to go for a window that opened up a little later, but one that could stay open for 5 to 7 years. I think the window they seem to be shooting for opens up earlier, but is destined to shut much sooner.

I do think our current crop of position player prospects will produce a superstar or two, as well as two or three really good players in addition. Most of those guys will be doing that elsewhere though.

 

[scotsman1948]

I am not certain that management isn't in a stealth version of being all-in. The signing of both Seager and Semien points in that direction, but it is too early to say for sure. I think they will do all they can do to make the postseason and do a little damage once there in 2022. I think! We will find out soon enough once the lockout is over. I still expect 5 to 8 of our top 20 prospects will be traded by July 31, 2022.

I was hoping we would stay patient, but that appears to be out the window. Speaking of windows, I think they are going for an earlier window. I wanted to go for a window that opened up a little later, but one that could stay open for 5 to 7 years. I think the window they seem to be shooting for opens up earlier, but is destined to shut much sooner.

I do think our current crop of position player prospects will produce a superstar or two, as well as two or three really good players in addition. Most of those guys will be doing that elsewhere though.

well i don't see us dumping 5 to 8 of our top prospects and that we probably pick up 1 more positional player (likely OF'er) and possibly at least 1 SP and a couple of RPs. that will require dropping at least 3 from the 40 plus we will have to add at least 3 or 4 prospects to the 40 which will also clearing spots on the 40.

Leclerc and J. Hernandez will end up on the 60-day and be out until late June or July

 

[saddles]

Jon Gray Is Not the Rangers' Biggest Free-Agent Move, But He Might Be the Savviest

The Rangers have done one thing surprisingly well over the last four years. Here's why Jon Daniels believes Gray could add to their recent pitching success.

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