Texas Rangers 2018-2019 Offseason Thread

[DT LUNA]

There's going to be a lot of big ticket free agents this offseason most likely, sounds like JD is trying to temper expectations.

Yes because some will not understand that 2019 is not the year we are going all in.

 

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[DT LUNA]

We don't see much at that level. Wonder why they let him go as an assistant.

 

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Very good news.

 

[scotsman1948]

You have patience with players who start off hot. You have zero patience with those who don't.

Wrong as is your normal. I have spent 3 years watching Rua. He is an below average fielder with a weak bat. He can play multiple positions but is the master of none of them. He is at best a useful minor league player who can fill a bench spot on a 10 to 15 day stretch when a starter goes down. Robinson is a smaller version of Rua except he's a lighter hitter. Alberto is a waste of a spot.

 

[DT LUNA]

Wrong as is your normal.

I have spent 3 years watching Rua. He is an below average fielder with a weak bat. He can play multiple positions but is the master of none of them. He is at best a useful minor league player who can fill a bench spot on a 10 to 15 day stretch when a starter goes down. Robinson is a smaller version of Rua except he's a lighter hitter. Alberto is a waste of a spot.

 

[Kelleyman]

Teams need those clutch singles. Love it. Baseball the way it needs to be played

 

[scotsman1948]

well prove me wrong. so far in their careers what have they shown that makes me wrong. didn't Rua start the season as the primary LF'er and didn't he end up in AAA for most of the season? tell me why

where did Robinson play most of the season? AAA. IKF ended up being our primary UTL.

Alberto is just a minor league level player and that is all he will ever be.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

This postseason has gotten off to a fantastic start. Two days ago the Cubs had the best record in the NL. Since then, they've squandered a division title and are now out of the postseason altogether.

Best part is, they lost both of the deciding games at home.

 

[DT LUNA]

well prove me wrong. so far in their careers what have they shown that makes me wrong. didn't Rua start the season as the primary LF'er and didn't he end up in AAA for most of the season? tell me why

where did Robinson play most of the season? AAA. IKF ended up being our primary UTL.

Alberto is just a minor league level player and that is all he will ever be.

Read my comment again. The highlighted part. Pay attention and you know I was not talking about the players instead the negative comment regarding a very good poster.

 

[scotsman1948]

Read my comment again. The highlighted part. Pay attention and you know I was not talking about the players instead the negative comment regarding a very good poster.

I was wrong for that. my bad

 

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well prove me wrong. so far in their careers what have they shown that makes me wrong. didn't Rua start the season as the primary LF'er and didn't he end up in AAA for most of the season? tell me why

where did Robinson play most of the season? AAA. IKF ended up being our primary UTL.

Alberto is just a minor league level player and that is all he will ever be.

That is where the disagreement lies that I have with you.

Robinson is still very inexperienced so he hasn't had a chance to prove anything. That would be the case if he was hitting at a .350 clip for his career too. I simply don't agree with making a judgment on any player who has only a couple hundred AB.

I can understand folks not wanting to give Rua another chance, but I do disagree with them. If fans look beyond the numbers at how he got those at bats there is another story to be told. If you look at his numbers when he has played consistently for even a month he has done well. When played sparingly he has done poorly. Profar used to show the same kind of numbers because he was used only sparingly with a couple of brief exceptions. Most young players will fail in those types of situations.

The Rangers have failed at finding out what they have with Mr. Rua. He could be a flop, but playing him the way they have doesn't prove that because it is no way to judge a player. He very well could turn out to be a more versatile David Murphy type player.

I don't look at their numbers and see anything differently than you do. I simply believe the way those numbers were attained in Rua's case makes them useless. Robinson's numbers don't mean anything to me because they are based on so few at bars. Not that I am predicting greatness for either of them.

I also see IKF's numbers as being a bit too premature to judge. Everything looks positive now, but it is too early to say that is what we will get from him going forward.

I understand disagreements happening though. I have had several people disagree with me about this subject in general over the years. I remember an email discussion just like this with Norm Hitzges about Profar a couple of years ago. Norm got quite upset with me as I recall. Norm has always had a problem with fans disagreeing with him though. lol

 

[scotsman1948]

That is where the disagreement lies that I have with you.

Robinson is still very inexperienced so he hasn't had a chance to prove anything. That would be the case if he was hitting at a .350 clip for his career too. I simply don't agree with making a judgment on any player who has only a couple hundred AB.

I can understand folks not wanting to give Rua another chance, but I do disagree with them. If fans look beyond the numbers at how he got those at bats there is another story to be told. If you look at his numbers when he has played consistently for even a month he has done well. When played sparingly he has done poorly. Profar used to show the same kind of numbers because he was used only sparingly with a couple of brief exceptions. Most young players will fail in those types of situations.

The Rangers have failed at finding out what they have with Mr. Rua. He could be a flop, but playing him the way they have doesn't prove that because it is no way to judge a player. He very well could turn out to be a more versatile David Murphy type player.

I don't look at their numbers and see anything differently than you do. I simply believe the way those numbers were attained in Rua's case makes them useless. Robinson's numbers don't mean anything to me because they are based on so few at bars. Not that I am predicting greatness for either of them.

I also see IKF's numbers as being a bit too premature to judge. Everything looks positive now, but it is too early to say that is what we will get from him going forward.

I understand disagreements happening though. I have had several people disagree with me about this subject in general over the years. I remember an email discussion just like this with Norm Hitzges about Profar a couple of years ago. Norm got quite upset with me as I recall. Norm has always had a problem with fans disagreeing with him though. lol

I understand what you are saying I just don't agree with all of it. Rua was given a chance at the beginning of the season and the Rangers apparently saw enough in that time period to decide there were better options available and shipped him back to AAA where he stayed most of the season. Guzman and IKF benefitted from that by showing they were ready. baseball is a what-have -you-done-lately profession where if you haven't shown anything positive at 40-man level in 3-5 years it is time for you to move aside and make room for the next player. Rua and Alberto have had that time and haven't showed the Rangers anything remotely positive. Alberto was dropped from the 40-man and no other team opted to pick him. now Robinson is just entering that time frame on the 40-man but I believe that until he shows consistency he should be at AAA and not occupy a 40-man spot. we have around 15 prospects that are Rule-5 eligible and we need to clear as many spots on the 40 as we can to cover most of them or face losing 1 or 2 to other teams.

 

[saddles]

I understand what you are saying I just don't agree with all of it. Rua was given a chance at the beginning of the season and the Rangers apparently saw enough in that time period to decide there were better options available and shipped him back to AAA where he stayed most of the season. Guzman and IKF benefitted from that by showing they were ready. baseball is a what-have -you-done-lately profession where if you haven't shown anything positive at 40-man level in 3-5 years it is time for you to move aside and make room for the next player. Rua and Alberto have had that time and haven't showed the Rangers anything remotely positive. Alberto was dropped from the 40-man and no other team opted to pick him. now Robinson is just entering that time frame on the 40-man but I believe that until he shows consistency he should be at AAA and not occupy a 40-man spot. we have around 15 prospects that are Rule-5 eligible and we need to clear as many spots on the 40 as we can to cover most of them or face losing 1 or 2 to other teams.

Which 15 prospects do you want to add to the 40 man?

 

[saddles]

I understand what you are saying I just don't agree with all of it. Rua was given a chance at the beginning of the season and the Rangers apparently saw enough in that time period to decide there were better options available and shipped him back to AAA where he stayed most of the season. Guzman and IKF benefitted from that by showing they were ready. baseball is a what-have -you-done-lately profession where if you haven't shown anything positive at 40-man level in 3-5 years it is time for you to move aside and make room for the next player. Rua and Alberto have had that time and haven't showed the Rangers anything remotely positive. Alberto was dropped from the 40-man and no other team opted to pick him. now Robinson is just entering that time frame on the 40-man but I believe that until he shows consistency he should be at AAA and not occupy a 40-man spot. we have around 15 prospects that are Rule-5 eligible and we need to clear as many spots on the 40 as we can to cover most of them or face losing 1 or 2 to other teams.

The beginning of this year is a perfect example of the organization's failure to see what they had in Rua. They said they were going to give him an extended look and that lasted until he had played in 14 of the first 15 games or so. Just before he was removed from the everyday lineup he went 2 for 5 in his last game and had went 4 for 12 with a HR in his last 3 games.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Never really have understood why people choose to die on the Ryan Rua hill.